Infantry Discussion Thread 6: True Korea Edition

[Aqizithiuda]

Steel has literally nothing to do with work hardening.



Well obviously. They should be a battalion level asset, after all.

Yes it does.

It really doesn't.

[Themiclesia]

Yes it does.

It really doesn't.

So it does. The experience with working with one metal can be translated to another. Besides the bronzesmiths, who would have started working with iron?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

The experience with working with one metal can be translated to another.

I have some terrible news for you.

[Aqizithiuda]

It really doesn't.

So it does. The experience with working with one metal can be translated to another. Besides the bronzesmiths, who would have started working with iron?

There is a difference between knowing how to work harden bronze and how make steel, and the process of mixing bronze is very different from the process of reducing iron ore into blooms. Steel was initially a by product of this process, and it wasn't until much later that people worked out how to make mostly pure steel (~400 BC India) or how to increase the amount of steel contained in each bloom.

Now, you might suggest that they could have tried case hardening, since there is literary evidence of this quite early on and it's well known that the Romans case hardened tools. However, to the best of my knowledge, case hardened weapons and armour (to a very limited extent) haven't been found before the renaissance.

[Rhoderberg]

So, IDT, give me one good reason why I shouldn't make every future infantryman a GPMG gunner.

[Bezombia]

So, IDT, give me one good reason why I shouldn't make every future infantryman a GPMG gunner.

What would you do with all the STG44s, and the double many Lugers?

[Rhoderberg]

So, IDT, give me one good reason why I shouldn't make every future infantryman a GPMG gunner.

What would you do with all the STG44s, and the double many Lugers?

I'll issue the STG44's and Lugers to reservists who aren't issued powered armor.

[Bezombia]

What would you do with all the STG44s, and the double many Lugers?

I'll issue the STG44's and Lugers to reservists who aren't issued powered armor.

Carry on, then.

[Padnak]

So, IDT, give me one good reason why I shouldn't make every future infantryman a GPMG gunner.

Because you need to make some of them GMG gunners

[Rhoderberg]

So, IDT, give me one good reason why I shouldn't make every future infantryman a GPMG gunner.

Because you need to make some of them GMG gunners

Good point.

How could I forget about my belt-fed space XM25s.

[United RussoAsia]

So, IDT, give me a good reason why I shouldn't train an army to be entirely guerrilla-warfare based marksmen?

[Padnak]

Because you need to make some of them GMG gunners

Good point.

How could I forget about my belt-fed space XM25s.

You'll also need some M202 gunners

So, IDT, give me a good reason why I shouldn't train an army to be entirely guerrilla-warfare based marksmen?

Because they'll get destroyed?

[Spirit of Hope]

So, IDT, give me a good reason why I shouldn't train an army to be entirely guerrilla-warfare based marksmen?

Because guerrilla warfare only works when your opponent has already taken your land. So:
1) It isn't offensive, meaning you can't push your objectives.
2) It will further destroy your infrastructure.
3) You will take more casualties.
4) They can potentially outlast you.

So, IDT, give me one good reason why I shouldn't make every future infantryman a GPMG gunner.

Because a GPMG lays down covering fire. You need someone to advance and maneuver.

[Rhoderberg]

Good point.

How could I forget about my belt-fed space XM25s.

You'll also need some M202 gunners

But Padnak, the M202s are mounted on the armor itself.

Because a GPMG lays down covering fire. You need someone to advance and maneuver.

What prevents a GPMG from advancing or maneuvering, though?

Especially if said GPMG operators are equipped with powered armor.

[United RussoAsia]

Because guerrilla warfare only works when your opponent has already taken your land. So:
1) It isn't offensive, meaning you can't push your objectives.
2) It will further destroy your infrastructure.
3) You will take more casualties.
4) They can potentially outlast you.

Good thing the people here think things through.
I was getting a little worried there after the GPMG question.

Truth be told, I value snipers and other marksmen well over machine gunners. And I love unconventional warfare.
Sadly, the aforementioned idea of mine is one I have thought through many times, and it is simply not possible/practical.

[Rhoderberg]

Good thing the people here think things through.
I was getting a little worried there after the GPMG question.

Do you think I wasn't serious?

[United RussoAsia]

Good thing the people here think things through.
I was getting a little worried there after the GPMG question.

Do you think I wasn't serious?

Yes.

[Padnak]

But Padnak, the M202s are mounted on the armor itself.

without question

[Padnak]

Do you think I wasn't serious?

Yes.

if possible, making every man a GPMG gunner would offer huge advantages

Being able to lay down insane amounts of suppressing fire being the most obvious

[Rhoderberg]

Do you think I wasn't serious?

Yes.

In that case, you're wrong.

There's no good reason to not make every man a machine gunner once you have powered armor.

But Padnak, the M202s are mounted on the armor itself.

without question

Wrist flamethrowers are never a bad thing.

if possible, making every man a GPMG gunner would offer huge advantages

Being able to lay down insane amounts of suppressing fire being the most obvious

Imagine a literal wall of suppressing fire.

Then you have the Tsavoniches Heer, circa 2200.

[Padnak]

Wrist flamethrowers are never a bad thing.

Man, having power armor capable of moving heavy weights is going to be set off a whole tidal wave of stupid infantry armaments

and its going to be bloody great

(man portable KPV anyone?)

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Tsav give them all MG42s with 10 inch barrels and Panzerfaust2015s.

[Korva]

each man can carry like 6 panzerfausts on his back

[Padnak]

Tsav give them all MG42s with 10 inch barrels and Panzerfaust2015s.

Get out of here with that pussy shit

give them obrez'd .50 cals and Mk 19 grenade launchers

[Rhoderberg]

Wrist flamethrowers are never a bad thing.

Man, having power armor capable of moving heavy weights is going to be set off a whole tidal wave of stupid infantry armaments

and its going to be bloody great

(man portable KPV anyone?)

It's going to be great. I can only hope I live to see it.

Only one KPV, though? Step it up, m8.

Tsav give them all MG42s with 10 inch barrels and Panzerfaust2015s.

Should I give the spaceMG42's underbarrel grenade launchers, though?

Otherwise, it's a yes.

each man can carry like 6 panzerfausts on his back

This man gets it.

Get out of here with that pussy shit

give them obrez'd .50 cals and Mk 19 grenade launchers

I'm sure I can fit those in somewhere.

I'm running out of space fast, though.