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Gallan Systems
5
6%
Ulfr
4
5%
Mick Swagger
6
7%
Puzikas
27
31%
Nirvash Type TheEND
19
22%
Sevv
2
2%
Estovnia
1
1%
Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502
3
3%
Gallia
7
8%
Glorious Comrade Padnak
13
15%
 
Total votes : 87

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Puzikas
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Postby Puzikas » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:10 am

Orvius wrote:
Vancon wrote:What's the name of the thing that soldiers are carrying these days that you wrap around a limb and turn it so you cut off the circulation again? I forgot.


If by "these days" you mean since WWI, then yeah, a tourniquet. (Dumb French words.)

But really, anything that cuts off perfusion and blood-flow effectively can be used as a tourniquet in a pinch. Last week in my EMT class, I learned that you could use a blood-pressure cuff as one if you pumped it up high enough, and made damn sure it didn't loosen.


In a pinch you can do this but, and this is OOC, please don't unless its a significant emergency. Its labor intensive, not as effective and takes your attention away from the patient in ensuring the tourniquet is under constant pressure.

I'm sure they taught this to you though.
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Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:23 am

Dremovia wrote:Best cure for wounded is a knife between the 8th and 9th rib from the back and a stab in the throat better then a slice across.

Actually the best method is to stab in through the jugular, and punch the knife forward destroying the larynx and opening the enemy up.
Unreachable.

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Rhoderberg
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Postby Rhoderberg » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:28 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Dremovia wrote:Best cure for wounded is a knife between the 8th and 9th rib from the back and a stab in the throat better then a slice across.

Actually the best method is to stab in through the jugular, and punch the knife forward destroying the larynx and opening the enemy up.

You can do better than that.

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Orvius
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Postby Orvius » Sat Apr 18, 2015 10:11 am

Puzikas wrote:
Orvius wrote:
If by "these days" you mean since WWI, then yeah, a tourniquet. (Dumb French words.)

But really, anything that cuts off perfusion and blood-flow effectively can be used as a tourniquet in a pinch. Last week in my EMT class, I learned that you could use a blood-pressure cuff as one if you pumped it up high enough, and made damn sure it didn't loosen.


In a pinch you can do this but, and this is OOC, please don't unless its a significant emergency. Its labor intensive, not as effective and takes your attention away from the patient in ensuring the tourniquet is under constant pressure.

I'm sure they taught this to you though.


"In a pinch." ;)
My nation does not reflect my RL beliefs. If it offends you, then you can firmly shove it up your ass respect difference and continue on with your day.
Libertarianism, Individualism, Free Religion, Freedom of Speech, Life-Liberty-and-the-Pursuit-of-Happiness, Right to Bear Arms, Public Liberty (I'm the Anti-Party party), and Anti-Plutocracy(POWER TO THE PEOPLE).
If you believe this is a human right we're seriously going to hunt you monsters down. We see people putting this "right" into their constitutions more and more everyday and it is absolutely appalling. There is nothing more depressing than a bear without arms, you sick fucks.

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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:04 am

Rhoderberg wrote:You can do better than that.

(Image)

My fallout is tingling
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Puzikas
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Postby Puzikas » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:14 am

Orvius wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
In a pinch you can do this but, and this is OOC, please don't unless its a significant emergency. Its labor intensive, not as effective and takes your attention away from the patient in ensuring the tourniquet is under constant pressure.

I'm sure they taught this to you though.


"In a pinch." ;)


Quite, but I work in a hospital setting and, while I have the uppermost faith in our EMS workers, sometimes some mistakes are made in the heat of the moment; I always feel it necessary to pass on information I've gotten though an unfortunate series of suscesses and failures I have seen , and been part of.
Regardless of how common sense it is.
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Orvius
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Postby Orvius » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:15 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Rhoderberg wrote:You can do better than that.

(Image)

My fallout is tingling


I recommend the Shady Sands Shuffle technique.
My nation does not reflect my RL beliefs. If it offends you, then you can firmly shove it up your ass respect difference and continue on with your day.
Libertarianism, Individualism, Free Religion, Freedom of Speech, Life-Liberty-and-the-Pursuit-of-Happiness, Right to Bear Arms, Public Liberty (I'm the Anti-Party party), and Anti-Plutocracy(POWER TO THE PEOPLE).
If you believe this is a human right we're seriously going to hunt you monsters down. We see people putting this "right" into their constitutions more and more everyday and it is absolutely appalling. There is nothing more depressing than a bear without arms, you sick fucks.

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Postby Orvius » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:25 am

Puzikas wrote:
Orvius wrote:
"In a pinch." ;)


Quite, but I work in a hospital setting and, while I have the uppermost faith in our EMS workers, sometimes some mistakes are made in the heat of the moment; I always feel it necessary to pass on information I've gotten though an unfortunate series of suscesses and failures I have seen , and been part of.
Regardless of how common sense it is.


Honestly, most of the information they hand us EMS guys is gratuitous. My instructor has been working as a paramedic for 20 years, and he hasn't had to do half the stuff we talk about in the textbook.

Really, in the pre-hospital setting, getting the patient to the ER as fast as possible is far more important than any meatball surgery interventions you could perform in the field. Not to mention, it usually ends up leaving more of a mess for the hospital staff.

For roleplay purposes however, it's kinda neat. :D
My nation does not reflect my RL beliefs. If it offends you, then you can firmly shove it up your ass respect difference and continue on with your day.
Libertarianism, Individualism, Free Religion, Freedom of Speech, Life-Liberty-and-the-Pursuit-of-Happiness, Right to Bear Arms, Public Liberty (I'm the Anti-Party party), and Anti-Plutocracy(POWER TO THE PEOPLE).
If you believe this is a human right we're seriously going to hunt you monsters down. We see people putting this "right" into their constitutions more and more everyday and it is absolutely appalling. There is nothing more depressing than a bear without arms, you sick fucks.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:52 pm

Krazakistan wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:Should we issue cellular phones to our soldiers?

There's no need to issue them since they should already own them. Smartphones, which are a GPS, radio, and PDA all in one, are so affordable and readily available that even people in third world countries with relatively low income can afford them.

What you could do is have it be mandated that members of your armed forces own a smartphone or just have smartphone ownership be a requirement for joining.

99% of Americans subsist on earning up to $380,000 a year.
Thereby, Ferraris are affordable.
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Postby Crookfur » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:57 pm

Themiclesia wrote:Should I require soldiers to make their own uniform according to a template issued to them?


Why? I can understand requiring them to supply/source it themselves but to literally sew it themselves, that just seems a bit weird. Unless there is soem deep cultural thing about using stuff made with your own hands, using sewing as a means to teach meditation/humbleness or there is some ritual attached I really don't see forcing nobles to literally sew thier own cloths as being a worthwhile approach. Plus how do you enforce that the soldier himself does ther seamtress work and doesn't hand it off to his wife/household employee/local seamtress?
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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:24 pm

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It hath begun!
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Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Arkandros
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Postby Arkandros » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:28 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Krazakistan wrote:There's no need to issue them since they should already own them. Smartphones, which are a GPS, radio, and PDA all in one, are so affordable and readily available that even people in third world countries with relatively low income can afford them.

What you could do is have it be mandated that members of your armed forces own a smartphone or just have smartphone ownership be a requirement for joining.

99% of Americans subsist on earning up to $380,000 a year.
Thereby, Ferraris are affordable.

That largely depends on the Ferrari.
@Archangel: is that side fed or bullpup?
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:42 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:(Image)

It hath begun!


Sexy as fuck, you swag jacker. Is that a charging handle/rear sight hybrid?

Arkandros wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:99% of Americans subsist on earning up to $380,000 a year.
Thereby, Ferraris are affordable.

That largely depends on the Ferrari.
@Archangel: is that side fed or bullpup?


Almost certainly side fed
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Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:54 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:(Image)

It hath begun!



Side fed stronk
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
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Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
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You are all terrible.

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Postby Bezombia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:55 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:(Image)

It hath begun!

+1 for air-fed

idt doesn't have enough floating-magazine designs
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Postby EsToVnIa » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:00 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:(Image)

It hath begun!


I like how you get to hold it like a pistol
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:03 pm

Arkandros wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:99% of Americans subsist on earning up to $380,000 a year.
Thereby, Ferraris are affordable.

That largely depends on the Ferrari.

But all are out of the reach of many.

My point was that "some people in third world countries can afford them" isn't a hugely valid statement, since third world countries are just places with a rich/poor gap more stark than the first world.
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Postby Arkandros » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:18 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Arkandros wrote:That largely depends on the Ferrari.

But all are out of the reach of many.

My point was that "some people in third world countries can afford them" isn't a hugely valid statement, since third world countries are just places with a rich/poor gap more stark than the first world.

Fair enough. A more reasonable proposal might be docking soldiers' pay in order to cover the cost of their equipment. A cheap satellite phone wouldn't even be a month's wages.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:25 pm

Arkandros wrote:@Archangel: is that side fed or bullpup?

Both, if we're being strictly technical.



Fordorsia wrote:Sexy as fuck, you swag jacker. Is that a charging handle/rear sight hybrid?

Much appreciated. And yes, that will at some point be a rear sight/charging handle.



Eisarn-Ara wrote:Side fed stronk

Most assuredly. I dread having to do the magazine well and all tomorrow though.



Bezombia wrote:+1 for air-fed

idt doesn't have enough floating-magazine designs

Just thought you lot would like to see the magazine and cartridge is all.



Estovnia wrote:I like how you get to hold it like a pistol

MG30 says "hai"
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I'll be redoing it tomorrow
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:43 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Sexy as fuck, you swag jacker. Is that a charging handle/rear sight hybrid?

Much appreciated. And yes, that will at some point be a rear sight/charging handle.


Noice. Is it supposed to be super cheap then?

Also it may inspire me to remake my Model 60. Gotta get them deets
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:29 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Noice. Is it supposed to be super cheap then?

Yep. Alas, it will never see widespread adoption by the image obsessed interwar Azurgan military. I suspect it'll be a popular piece on the civilian market.

Also it may inspire me to remake my Model 60. Gotta get them deets

Also. . . I ripped your stock.
(\/)(•,,,,•)(\/)
Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:31 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Noice. Is it supposed to be super cheap then?

Yep. Alas, it will never see widespread adoption by the image obsessed interwar Azurgan military. I suspect it'll be a popular piece on the civilian market.

Also it may inspire me to remake my Model 60. Gotta get them deets

Also. . . I ripped your stock.



Or, maybe it could see use by civil security units in some limited amount.
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:33 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Noice. Is it supposed to be super cheap then?

Yep. Alas, it will never see widespread adoption by the image obsessed interwar Azurgan military. I suspect it'll be a popular piece on the civilian market.

Also it may inspire me to remake my Model 60. Gotta get them deets

Also. . . I ripped your stock.


I'd sue you, but my rifle is clearly superior so the sales make up for your thievery.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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The Archangel Conglomerate
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:53 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:Or, maybe it could see use by civil security units in some limited amount.

That too.



Fordorsia wrote:I'd sue you, but my rifle is clearly superior so the sales make up for your thievery.

I did look for alternative ways of doing it, but everything else I found looked rather shit.
(\/)(•,,,,•)(\/)
Please, call me Arch

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:16 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:I'd sue you, but my rifle is clearly superior so the sales make up for your thievery.

I did look for alternative ways of doing it, but everything else I found looked rather shit.


Yeah that kind of stock is probably the only way you could do it.

Also speedy WIP
Image
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Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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