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Gallan Systems
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Sevv
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Estovnia
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Postby Triplebaconation » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:31 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:I need some Ulfric(?) advice as to a proper handgun/obrez cartridge for dealing with some pesky vampires and daemons. Someone help me?


Describe said problem creatures.


9mm should do.
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Postby Mick Swagger » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:40 am

It's like you hate fun or something.

Put the fun in camps, why don't you?
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:59 am

Triplebaconation wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Describe said problem creatures.


9mm should do.


But what if they're Sparklepires?
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:07 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:
9mm should do.


But what if they're Sparklepires?

Then you just declare out loud that you don't believe in vampires and that will cause them to have a teen angstgasm over their own existence and explode.

edit: typo
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:31 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:
9mm should do.


But what if they're Sparklepires?

A quick look at the Twilight wiki (shudder) indicates that Twilight vampires are essentially immune to conventional small arms. Some sort of flamethrower or other incendiary weapon would be the way to go.
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Postby The Great Nation of Dan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:04 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
But what if they're Sparklepires?

A quick look at the Twilight wiki (shudder) indicates that Twilight vampires are essentially immune to conventional small arms. Some sort of flamethrower or other incendiary weapon would be the way to go.


As a nation that doesn't follow international laws very well. Would incendiary rounds work? You're a brave soul. *Salutes
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:12 am

The Great Nation of Dan wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:A quick look at the Twilight wiki (shudder) indicates that Twilight vampires are essentially immune to conventional small arms. Some sort of flamethrower or other incendiary weapon would be the way to go.


As a nation that doesn't follow international laws very well. Would incendiary rounds work? You're a brave soul. *Salutes

No. They have to be dismembered and burned whole for it to be really effective, although it seems like a good coat of napalm (or similar) would at least inconvenience them.

Thermite or similar might be useful as well if you could burn through enough of them to destroy ligaments or muscles. But standard bullets, apparently, will simply bounce off.

The best solution, it seems, is to simply nuke the site from orbit.
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Postby Galmarch » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:59 am

Image
Hnng, the scope was a pain in the ass. Rather happy with the whole thing.

Looked up the AS50 and AW50, one is semi-automatic and the other is bolt action like the AW I drew.
Leaning towards the AW50.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:06 am

One thing I'd do is maybe make the white markings less white. As in, do a light gray or something. Notice how the slightly smaller contrast looks easier on the eye.
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:07 am

Galmarch wrote:(Image)
Hnng, the scope was a pain in the ass. Rather happy with the whole thing.

Looked up the AS50 and AW50, one is semi-automatic and the other is bolt action like the AW I drew.
Leaning towards the AW50.


very very nice.

You could look at the latest AX series rifles from AI but they are basically just the AW series with modular everything and all of the places to mount the rails.
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Postby Galmarch » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:17 am

Purpelia wrote:One thing I'd do is maybe make the white markings less white. As in, do a light gray or something. Notice how the slightly smaller contrast looks easier on the eye.


Alright, I tried it and it does indeed look nicer.

Image


Crookfur wrote:
Galmarch wrote:(Image)
Hnng, the scope was a pain in the ass. Rather happy with the whole thing.

Looked up the AS50 and AW50, one is semi-automatic and the other is bolt action like the AW I drew.
Leaning towards the AW50.


very very nice.

You could look at the latest AX series rifles from AI but they are basically just the AW series with modular everything and all of the places to mount the rails.


Will do, hm AMR's are quite niche weapons and I do not think modularity etc is really worth it if I already have the other ones. I mean it is nice but I can survive without those features I think.
Good tip though.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:19 am

Doppio Giudici wrote:I don't even know what Lanos even did and Im annoyed by this constant nagging on him or her.

If this doesn't calm down, Im going to remind the noobs about innawoods. Maybe then there will be actual infantry stuff here.

Question of the day, if you had a lot of AKs, SKSes, and PPSes; who would you assign them to in your armed forces?

First man gets a rifle, second man gets a magazine.
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Postby Bezktovakia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:38 am

Doppio Giudici wrote:Question of the day, if you had a lot of AKs, SKSes, and PPSes; who would you assign them to in your armed forces?
AK to regulars, SKS to reserves, PPS to anyone who doesn't need or can't use an AK.
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Postby Puzikas » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:43 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Remind me.

SdKfz 2
SdKfz 4
SdKfz 6
Sd.Kfz. 7
Sd.Kfz. 8
Sd.Kfz. 9
SdKfz 10
Sd.Kfz. 11
Sd.Kfz. 250
Sd.Kfz. 251

SdKfz 231
SdKfz 232
SdKfz 233
SdKfz 234
SdKfz 263

Sd. Kfz. 180


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:25 am

Puzikas wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Service status 0.

The M240 and M249 are Belgian, the M27 is German, the M2 was finished after Browning's death by the Belgians...
This is like the exact same argument you're inexplicably putting to us.



Well, tbf the M2 was designed by an American and put into production by Americans, and has been continuously produced by Americans since. As far as national origins go, the M2 is about as American as applie pie really, given the first making of the M2 were done by Winchester, Co.

You can thank Fred Moore for that.

Id also like to point out that FN has been an "American" company for some years in the same way H&K was "British" for those years. The M240s largest point of manufacture is the United States, the same for the M249/Minimi.

Oh and the M60 is still in use, so the US does still have its own domestically designed and produced machine guns.

Odd that.

The relationship between the US and FN isn't really the same as HK and BAE, it's more the opposite. BAE, at the time a British company (owned by the state?), bought out HK.

FN, a Belgian state firm, bought out Winchester and Browning. And then set up, at some point, FNH US, which is the company that produces the M2, M240 and M249.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Remind me.

SdKfz 2
SdKfz 4
SdKfz 6
Sd.Kfz. 7
Sd.Kfz. 8
Sd.Kfz. 9
SdKfz 10
Sd.Kfz. 11
Sd.Kfz. 250
Sd.Kfz. 251

SdKfz 231
SdKfz 232
SdKfz 233
SdKfz 234
SdKfz 263

Sd. Kfz. 180

I'm getting a vibe of "I don't know how German works" to explain why this is "retarded".
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Hnng, the scope was a pain in the ass. Rather happy with the whole thing.

Looked up the AS50 and AW50, one is semi-automatic and the other is bolt action like the AW I drew.
Leaning towards the AW50.

AW50 is the Arctic Warfare scaled up to the .50 cartridge, unsurprisingly.
AS50 is a semi-automatic .50 weapon of generic utility.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:31 am

How are those any worse than United States Rifle, 7.62 mm, M14? It's just that the structure of the German language allows for stringing words into one. Personally I very much prefer using single ultralong words.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Korva » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:39 am

Purpelia wrote:How are those any worse than United States Rifle, 7.62 mm, M14? It's just that the structure of the German language allows for stringing words into one. Personally I very much prefer using single ultralong words.

Because we don't say USR762M-14

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:42 am

Korva wrote:
Purpelia wrote:How are those any worse than United States Rifle, 7.62 mm, M14? It's just that the structure of the German language allows for stringing words into one. Personally I very much prefer using single ultralong words.

Because we don't say USR762M-14

And Germans did not say Sd.Kfz. 251. Those were ordnance designations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz. It was the stuff you write in procurement documents and such because it's easy to type. It's basically the same thing as GRAU designations or american M numbers. Codes you use to abbreviate filling out forms.
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:51 am

The German soldiers said half-track, rifle, Tiger (or just tank). They wouldn't bother with the full designations just like the soldiers from any other nation.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:56 am

Fordorsia wrote:The German soldiers said half-track, rifle, Tiger (or just tank). They wouldn't bother with the full designations just like the soldiers from any other nation.

Honestly I don't even think they would have done that too often. If you are serving in a tank unit that is composed of one type of tank you'd just call it a Tank. If you are getting your supplies via 20 different types of halt-track I imagine you'd just call them all a truck. Just like you'd call your rifle a rifle.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:57 am

Purpelia wrote:How are those any worse than United States Rifle, 7.62 mm, M14? It's just that the structure of the German language allows for stringing words into one. Personally I very much prefer using single ultralong words.

Well yes, but you fap so vigorously to everything Germany does your ancestors are chaffing.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:58 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Purpelia wrote:How are those any worse than United States Rifle, 7.62 mm, M14? It's just that the structure of the German language allows for stringing words into one. Personally I very much prefer using single ultralong words.

Well yes, but you fap so vigorously to everything Germany does your ancestors are chaffing.

It's just the way the language works. German and to an extent French both just sound, flow and in general work so much better than English.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:00 am

Purpelia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:The German soldiers said half-track, rifle, Tiger (or just tank). They wouldn't bother with the full designations just like the soldiers from any other nation.

Honestly I don't even think they would have done that too often. If you are serving in a tank unit that is composed of one type of tank you'd just call it a Tank. If you are getting your supplies via 20 different types of halt-track I imagine you'd just call them all a truck. Just like you'd call your rifle a rifle.


Yeah that's what I mean, they would use broad terms for everything. Then again according to the oh so reliable wikis, Germans commonly referred to their half-tracks as Hanomags, the manufacturer being Hanomag.

Speaking of half-tracks, how viable would it be to keep using them in large numbers well after WWII and even today?

Actually fuck it, I forgot this is IDT
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Postby Doppio Giudici » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:44 am

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Doppio Giudici wrote:I don't even know what Lanos even did and Im annoyed by this constant nagging on him or her.

If this doesn't calm down, Im going to remind the noobs about innawoods. Maybe then there will be actual infantry stuff here.

Question of the day, if you had a lot of AKs, SKSes, and PPSes; who would you assign them to in your armed forces?

First man gets a rifle, second man gets a magazine.


IRL, the first man gets a rifle with one stripper-clip, while the second one gets the same. Then they try not to use up their five rounds and cry.

USSR didn't have a weapon shortage in WW2, they had an ammo shortage.



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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:44 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:I need some Ulfric(?) advice as to a proper handgun/obrez cartridge for dealing with some pesky vampires and daemons. Someone help me?


Describe said problem creatures.

As average as you can get; and conventional rounds seem to do nothing. I'm leaning to highly penetrating silver-tipped 10mm rifle rounds with small crosses scribed in their tips. Benefits/drawbacks of?
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