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Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 3:18 pm**

Puzikas wrote:
Tulacia wrote:
I think the 5.56mm that the M16 was originally chambered in.

EDIT: I'm thinking military rounds here, so the 2mm Kolibri doesn't count.

As oppsed to...what, the round the M16 is currently chambered in? 5.56x45mm NATO?

I thought it was chambered into 7.62mm with the M16A2, but then again I know next to nothing about anything after WWII except tanks, and even then I lose interest once the current MBT generation comes into play during the 80s.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 3:21 pm**

Purpelia wrote:Why do the grunts need to navigate anyway? The squad commander should be navigating them. And if he dies they can just pick up his tablet. How often are soldiers going to get lost in the field?

Because it was easy and cheap to slap a GPS into the radio/data sender that each soldier got. If only so high command could track down wayward soldiers on exercise. A little tweaking and you essentially have a battlefield PDA/smartphone. The Army even makes games you can play on them. No one does though because they are shit.

The tablet version is just so officers can do mapping better.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 3:28 pm**

Tulacia wrote:
Puzikas wrote:

As oppsed to...what, the round the M16 is currently chambered in? 5.56x45mm NATO?

I thought it was chambered into 7.62mm with the M16A2, but then again I know next to nothing about anything after WWII except tanks, and even then I lose interest once the current MBT generation comes into play during the 80s.

Nah, the M16 series is chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO across the board. The AR-10 is a similar design to the AR-15, which is the basis of which the M16 as developed from, and is chambered in the full powered 7.62x51mm NATO/.308 Winchester. The M16A2 is a modification or the original M16 and M16A1 series with a thicker barrel at the frontal end, new rear adjustable sights, new hand guard, new flash suppressor, lengthened buttstock, change in pistol grip, and a few other modifications.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 3:31 pm**

Puzikas wrote:
Tulacia wrote:
I thought it was chambered into 7.62mm with the M16A2, but then again I know next to nothing about anything after WWII except tanks, and even then I lose interest once the current MBT generation comes into play during the 80s.

Nah, the M16 series is chambered in 5.56x45mm NATO across the board. The AR-10 is a similar design to the AR-15, which is the basis of which the M16 as developed from, and is chambered in the full powered 7.62x51mm NATO/.308 Winchester. The M16A2 is a modification or the original M16 and M16A1 series with a thicker barrel at the frontal end, new rear adjustable sights, new hand guard, new flash suppressor, lengthened buttstock, change in pistol grip, and a few other modifications.

The M16A2 also looks sexy as fuck with an M203 attached

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 3:32 pm**

Tulacia wrote:
Puzikas wrote:

As oppsed to...what, the round the M16 is currently chambered in? 5.56x45mm NATO?

I thought it was chambered into 7.62mm with the M16A2, but then again I know next to nothing about anything after WWII except tanks, and even then I lose interest once the current MBT generation comes into play during the 80s.

The M16 was always and msot likely always will be 5.56mm

You are thinking of the AR-10 which was shrunk and improved to make the AR-15 which was adopted for service as the M16.

Or possibly one of the many Third party 7.62mm NATO ARs: some of which are scaled up AR-15s, some take more heritage from the older AR-10 and a few kind of go thier own way in the middle.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 3:35 pm**

Purpelia wrote:What is the smallest possible small arm cartridge?

In terms of caliber I'd probably name the 3x47mm FA Exp. I understand, however, that it had a tendency to disintegrate in the barrel. The smallest practical cartridge I can think of would have to be either the 4,5mm MKR or the 4mm CETME.

Purpelia wrote:Why do the grunts need to navigate anyway? The squad commander should be navigating them. And if he dies they can just pick up his tablet. How often are soldiers going to get lost in the field?

Pretty much as SoH said. You've already got a smartphone type deal. It really wouldn't be any more to make use of the inbuilt GPS. Too, it may help to have multiple morons with maps, instead of the one.

Tulacia wrote:I thought it was chambered into 7.62mm with the M16A2, but then again I know next to nothing about anything after WWII except tanks, and even then I lose interest once the current MBT generation comes into play during the 80s.

Probably laughed more than I should have.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:00 pm**

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Pretty much as Sev said.

Sev said wat

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:15 pm**

Sevvania wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Pretty much as Sev said.

Sev said wat

Shit. I meant SoH. My fault.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:34 pm**

Fordorsia wrote:Fancy pants Nirvashians don't even stand a chance against fancy pants Fordorsians

So underadorned. The ribcage of a starving african child would make for a better guard.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:38 pm**

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Fancy pants Nirvashians don't even stand a chance against fancy pants Fordorsians

So underadorned. The ribcage of a starving african child would make for a better guard.

Tanzanian Orphans? whatwhere? We need them for the diamond mines.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:40 pm**

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Fancy pants Nirvashians don't even stand a chance against fancy pants Fordorsians

So underadorned. The ribcage of a starving african child would make for a better guard.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:43 pm**

I wanted to avoid the "dark grey pistol with a dark grey grip" theme with the Tauxie, so I tried a cream grip, but it just looks like shit.
I don't really know what to do with it now. Halp pls.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:46 pm**

New Visegrad wrote:I wanted to avoid the "dark grey pistol with a dark grey grip" theme with the Tauxie, so I tried a cream grip, but it just looks like shit.
I don't really know what to do with it now. Halp pls.

You know you want to.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:47 pm**

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Fancy pants Nirvashians don't even stand a chance against fancy pants Fordorsians

So underadorned. The ribcage of a starving african child would make for a better guard.

You only really need a few bars when facing a rapier. A few will prevent cuts the the hand whereas you can have an many as you like and it won't stop a thrust.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 4:57 pm**

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:I wanted to avoid the "dark grey pistol with a dark grey grip" theme with the Tauxie, so I tried a cream grip, but it just looks like shit.
I don't really know what to do with it now. Halp pls.

You know you want to.

this is a professional industrially-manufactured electromagnetic weapon not a toy power drill

also, yellow is a terrible colour for large solid-colour blocks on high-tech things that aren't kids' toys. it works as trim or with trim, but the Tauxie's grip is all one piece.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:08 pm**

New Visegrad wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:You know you want to.

this is a professional industrially-manufactured electromagnetic weapon not a toy power drill

also, yellow is a terrible colour for large solid-colour blocks on high-tech things that aren't kids' toys. it works as trim or with trim, but the Tauxie's grip is all one piece.

What about hot rod orange?

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:11 pm**

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:this is a professional industrially-manufactured electromagnetic weapon not a toy power drill

also, yellow is a terrible colour for large solid-colour blocks on high-tech things that aren't kids' toys. it works as trim or with trim, but the Tauxie's grip is all one piece.

What about hot rod orange?

I get the feeling you're not taking this very seriously

Maybe I'll add some trim so I can use bright colours without it looking stupid.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:14 pm**

New Visegrad wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:What about hot rod orange?

I get the feeling you're not taking this very seriously

Maybe I'll add some trim so I can use bright colours without it looking stupid.

I'll take 1 for military testing in Daene light blue, white, and dark blue Russian urban pattern.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:15 pm**

New Visegrad wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:What about hot rod orange?

I get the feeling you're not taking this very seriously

Maybe I'll add some trim so I can use bright colours without it looking stupid.

I'm always serious.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:33 pm**

The Great Nation of Dan wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:I get the feeling you're not taking this very seriously

Maybe I'll add some trim so I can use bright colours without it looking stupid.

I'll take 1 for military testing in Daene light blue, white, and dark blue Russian urban pattern.

You do realize that this weapon's very first model rolled out of a zero-G manufacturing lab in August 2357? Hardly MT.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:36 pm**

New Visegrad wrote:
The Great Nation of Dan wrote:
I'll take 1 for military testing in Daene light blue, white, and dark blue Russian urban pattern.

You do realize that this weapon's very first model rolled out of a zero-G manufacturing lab in August 2357? Hardly MT.

Oh, he knows. He just doesn't care.

#Can'tswervetheNirv

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 5:49 pm**

I didn't even ask for one tho

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 6:14 pm**

I didn't have internet for like a week because Canada is a undeveloped country, when does voting for the next op generally start?

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 6:16 pm**

Padnak wrote:I didn't have internet for like a week because Canada is a undeveloped country, when does voting for the next op generally start?

usually about page tree fiddy

EDIT: It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Posted: **Tue May 19, 2015 6:31 pm**

Bezombia wrote:
Padnak wrote:I didn't have internet for like a week because Canada is a undeveloped country, when does voting for the next op generally start?

usually about page tree fiddy

EDIT: It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Someone has to maintain the regime of incompetence around here, so why not it be me?

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