Infantry Discussion Thread 6: True Korea Edition

[Azurg]

The two aren't hugely comparable, I'm afraid.
Because of the low total ammunition and low ammunition weight, you might get away with spring feed or something, but I'm not certain.

Hmm. Beyond Tue basic layout I suspect your right. The idea in any case, is to have an ammunition drum wherein the ammunition is placed radially with the projectiles pointing towards the center. Assuming I've not buggered the measurements, a 150 round drum would be roughly 9x6cm, which really is fairly small all told.

The only issue with such a design is that the rounds, sitting radially with their noses down, are not in a particularly handy position for feeding. My idea was to have the cartridge grabbed and rotated by a set of arms attached to the bolt carrier group. The operation would, in theory be fairly simple, relying only on a pivot point and an additional reciprocating piece.

[Yukonastan]

The two aren't hugely comparable, I'm afraid.
Because of the low total ammunition and low ammunition weight, you might get away with spring feed or something, but I'm not certain.

Hmm. Beyond Tue basic layout I suspect your right. The idea in any case, is to have an ammunition drum wherein the ammunition is placed radially with the projectiles pointing towards the center. Assuming I've not buggered the measurements, a 150 round drum would be roughly 9x6cm, which really is fairly small all told.

The only issue with such a design is that the rounds, sitting radially with their noses down, are not in a particularly handy position for feeding. My idea was to have the cartridge grabbed and rotated by a set of arms attached to the bolt carrier group. The operation would, in theory be fairly simple, relying only on a pivot point and an additional reciprocating piece.

Skurb, point the boolets in and use a spiral, like every 100 round bren pan magazine ever.

[Azurg]

That's exactly what I described, ya fekkin' mook!

[Yukonastan]

That's exactly what I described, ya fekkin' mook!

'Tisn't. You're describing the pan hanging like every drum, and not sitting on top like a proper pan.

[Radicchio]

How do we feel about the wrist top computers that are coming out these days?
In adition to providing field commanders the ability to live update orders and track troop movements, some of them have built in cameras, laser range finders and a casualty call function (among many other features.)
Do they really have a place on the battlefield? Or are they a security risk?

[Yukonastan]

How do we feel about the wrist top computers that are coming out these days?
In adition to providing field commanders the ability to live update orders and track troop movements, some of them have built in cameras, laser range finders and a casualty call function (among many other features.)
Do they really have a place on the battlefield? Or are they a security risk?

I'd imagine that as a linked combat system it'd be a great thing. I mean, all platoons have live updated tactical maps? Handy as fuck. The cameras would be as good as you'd expect of cell phone cameras, so not the best, but convenient to have. The laser range finders would be too short ranged for any real battlefield use, imo. I've got a pocket laser rangefinder about the thickness of two decks of cards; 500 metres effective range. And that one's quite new.

So the core functions of it are useful, but the "extra" features are better left to more dedicated devices.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

How do we feel about the wrist top computers that are coming out these days?
In adition to providing field commanders the ability to live update orders and track troop movements, some of them have built in cameras, laser range finders and a casualty call function (among many other features.)
Do they really have a place on the battlefield? Or are they a security risk?

It's more practical to carry your technology. Just give them Iphones.

[Azurg]

'Tisn't. You're describing the pan hanging like every drum, and not sitting on top like a proper pan.

'Tis because it is in fact a drum, not a pan. Pans are a plebs.

[Yukonastan]

'Tisn't. You're describing the pan hanging like every drum, and not sitting on top like a proper pan.

'Tis because it is in fact a drum, not a pan. Pans are a plebs.

Then use a feed motor and feed chute to a "conventional" magazine well.

[Azurg]

Then use a feed motor and feed chute to a "conventional" magazine well.

Too complex.

[Imperializt Russia]

How do we feel about the wrist top computers that are coming out these days?
In adition to providing field commanders the ability to live update orders and track troop movements, some of them have built in cameras, laser range finders and a casualty call function (among many other features.)
Do they really have a place on the battlefield? Or are they a security risk?

Consider the screen size, keyboard layout, ergonomics of its positioning on the wrist and likelihood of being damaged on the wrist.
What mitigates basically all of these? Carrying a legit iPad.

[Yukonastan]

Then use a feed motor and feed chute to a "conventional" magazine well.

Too complex.

Not for the M61 20mm cannon.

[Imperializt Russia]

Too complex.

Not for the M61 20mm cannon.

Hint - not a small arm.

[Azurg]

Consider the screen size, keyboard layout, ergonomics of its positioning on the wrist and likelihood of being damaged on the wrist.
What mitigates basically all of these? Carrying a legit iPad.

I think too that the average grunt has no need for a wrist mounted iPod, while COs can better use the larger screen size of a iPad.

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Not for the M61 20mm cannon.

Hint - not a small arm.

Christ Samoz. I feel I should just start throwing random ideas at the thread and leave the actual replying to you.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Okay so I may have bit off more than I can chew.

[Imperializt Russia]

I feel like that episode in Firefly where River became Serenity.

[Puzikas]

You simply aren't N⁺¹ denominational thinkers is clearly the issue here.

Consider the screen size, keyboard layout, ergonomics of its positioning on the wrist and likelihood of being damaged on the wrist.
What mitigates basically all of these? Carrying a legit iPad.

Eh. I'm partial to the idea of a convenient PDA like device for NCOs and unit commands, having it mounted on the non-dominate position makes sense, but not in an MT setting really, since its liable to break. You'd need strong materials, touchscreens, self healing glass, ect. in order to actually make it practical. All of these are totally possible now, just very expensive and cost-prohibitive in a sense.

In the year 2030 though, who knows.

Okay so I may have bit off more than I can chew.

How exactly did you intend to step on my toes, out of curiosity?

[Imperializt Russia]

You simply aren't N⁺¹ denominational thinkers is clearly the issue here.

Consider the screen size, keyboard layout, ergonomics of its positioning on the wrist and likelihood of being damaged on the wrist.
What mitigates basically all of these? Carrying a legit iPad.

Eh. I'm partial to the idea of a convenient PDA like device for NCOs and unit commands, having it mounted on the non-dominate position makes sense, but not in an MT setting really, since its liable to break. You'd need strong materials, touchscreens, self healing glass, ect. in order to actually make it practical. All of these are totally possible now, just very expensive and cost-prohibitive in a sense.

In the year 2030 though, who knows.

I still think such a system is by necessity hampered in usability compared to just a regular tablet.

[Aqizithiuda]

The two aren't hugely comparable, I'm afraid.
Because of the low total ammunition and low ammunition weight, you might get away with spring feed or something, but I'm not certain.

Hmm. Beyond Tue basic layout I suspect your right. The idea in any case, is to have an ammunition drum wherein the ammunition is placed radially with the projectiles pointing towards the center. Assuming I've not buggered the measurements, a 150 round drum would be roughly 9x6cm, which really is fairly small all told.

The only issue with such a design is that the rounds, sitting radially with their noses down, are not in a particularly handy position for feeding. My idea was to have the cartridge grabbed and rotated by a set of arms attached to the bolt carrier group. The operation would, in theory be fairly simple, relying only on a pivot point and an additional reciprocating piece.

This is a 150 round linkless feed magazine: http://www.hkpro.com/image/hk73mag.jpg

[Azurg]

This is a 150 round linkless feed magazine: http://www.hkpro.com/image/hk73mag.jpg

Bit of a bastard for a bullpup though, eh? To be fair though, that's what settled me on a 150 round capacity.

[Puzikas]

I still think such a system is by necessity hampered in usability compared to just a regular tablet.

Pretty much, but I fucking hate tablets. My job started going "paperless" a few years ago and ive had to carry the shitty thing with me around work for some time.

Which is why I want it mounted on my forearm in a nice 12cmx30cm display landscape or something

This is a 150 round linkless feed magazine: http://www.hkpro.com/image/hk73mag.jpg

Horrid.

I want ten.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

How exactly did you intend to step on my toes, out of curiosity?

That's wasn't actually the intention. I was just shit talking. These are legitimate efforts to branch out tho.

[Puzikas]

How exactly did you intend to step on my toes, out of curiosity?

That's wasn't actually the intention. I was just shit talking. These are legitimate efforts to branch out tho.

I wish you the best of luck in the endevor I suppose.

Anyways I haven't given up doing that post on hot to into terminal ballistics. I just recently discovered how much fun modding Skyrim is, been working awful shifts, and, well, been lazy. It'll be done around the time Samoz makes a storefront.

[Imperializt Russia]

I still think such a system is by necessity hampered in usability compared to just a regular tablet.

Pretty much, but I fucking hate tablets. My job started going "paperless" a few years ago and ive had to carry the shitty thing with me around work for some time.

Which is why I want it mounted on my forearm in a nice 12cmx30cm display landscape or something

Will a 5x12" display even fit on your forearm?

Well, your forearms maybe, but a Johnny Average like myself? Sounds cumbersome. Moreso than carrying the thing.

[Imperializt Russia]

That's wasn't actually the intention. I was just shit talking. These are legitimate efforts to branch out tho.

I wish you the best of luck in the endevor I suppose.

Anyways I haven't given up doing that post on hot to into terminal ballistics. I just recently discovered how much fun modding Skyrim is, been working awful shifts, and, well, been lazy. It'll be done around the time Samoz makes a storefront.

Only if the Soviets invade.