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Gallan Systems
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6%
Ulfr
4
5%
Mick Swagger
6
7%
Puzikas
27
31%
Nirvash Type TheEND
19
22%
Sevv
2
2%
Estovnia
1
1%
Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502
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Gallia
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Glorious Comrade Padnak
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EsToVnIa
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Postby EsToVnIa » Mon May 18, 2015 7:27 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Estovnia wrote:pirate saints

as if this thread can't get any worse

I mean, I could take back the whole story and just shit swords everywhere if you prefer.


Then what would Fordosia do
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 18, 2015 7:28 pm

Unreachable.

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 18, 2015 7:30 pm

Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 18, 2015 7:33 pm

Unreachable.

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 18, 2015 7:40 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I must draw my own complex hilt

Don't bother. I'm doing a wheel lock next to step on Crookfur's toes and then an arquebus. I will not stop until this thread can no longer walk.


I'll just use a couple falchions as leg braces. You can't touch them.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby New Visegrad » Mon May 18, 2015 7:44 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I must draw my own complex hilt

Don't bother. I'm doing a wheel lock next to step on Crookfur's toes and then an arquebus. I will not stop until this thread can no longer walk.

I eagerly await future developments of this project.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 18, 2015 7:47 pm

New Visegrad wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Don't bother. I'm doing a wheel lock next to step on Crookfur's toes and then an arquebus. I will not stop until this thread can no longer walk.

I eagerly await future developments of this project.

Oh don't worry kiddo. You'll get yours too.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon May 18, 2015 7:57 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I must draw my own complex hilt

Don't bother. I'm doing a wheel lock next to step on Crookfur's toes and then an arquebus. I will not stop until this thread can no longer walk.


You may take my life, but you will never take my cartridges!
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 18, 2015 7:57 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:I eagerly await future developments of this project.

Oh don't worry kiddo. You'll get yours too.


You're just luring us into an orgy
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 18, 2015 7:59 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Don't bother. I'm doing a wheel lock next to step on Crookfur's toes and then an arquebus. I will not stop until this thread can no longer walk.


You may take my life, but you will never take my cartridges!

I always associated you with wagons, believe it or not. You might just skate by.

Fordorsia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Oh don't worry kiddo. You'll get yours too.


You're just luring us into an orgy

More like a circle jerk, but yeah basically.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon May 18, 2015 8:06 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
You may take my life, but you will never take my cartridges!

I always associated you with wagons, believe it or not. You might just skate by.

Fordorsia wrote:
You're just luring us into an orgy

More like a circle jerk, but yeah basically.


I find this amusing, because my focus on PT is really recent.
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.


Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Eahland » Mon May 18, 2015 8:06 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:"Any officer who goes into battle without his sword is improperly dressed."

Eahlisc policy for about a century and a half has been to shoot anyone with a sword first.

On the Yuhene front in the Great War, experienced fighting-men revised this to, "If he has a sword on his hip, shoot him. If he has a sword in his hand, shoot the men around him, because he's about to make a big mistake, and the men around him are probably the experienced non-coms who might talk him out of it."
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Mon May 18, 2015 8:58 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I must draw my own complex hilt

Don't bother. I'm doing a wheel lock next to step on Crookfur's toes and then an arquebus. I will not stop until this thread can no longer walk.

I just wonder how you are planning to hurt me. Then again you could just ignore me an that would probably hurt more than anything else.



Looks good. I'm just wondering what miracles where ascribed to here that led to being canonized. I feel like I recognize the reference but can't place it.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 18, 2015 9:04 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:Looks good. I'm just wondering what miracles where ascribed to here that led to being canonized. I feel like I recognize the reference but can't place it.

Nirvashi saints aren't regular saints. They're more akin to Heroes of the Soviet Union. I just call them saints to piss off someone in my region. The reference was Yellowbeard.
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Postby Vancon » Mon May 18, 2015 9:07 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Looks good. I'm just wondering what miracles where ascribed to here that led to being canonized. I feel like I recognize the reference but can't place it.

Nirvashi saints aren't regular saints. They're more akin to Heroes of the Soviet Union. I just call them saints to piss off someone in my region. The reference was Yellowbeard.

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Postby EsToVnIa » Mon May 18, 2015 9:59 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Looks good. I'm just wondering what miracles where ascribed to here that led to being canonized. I feel like I recognize the reference but can't place it.

Nirvashi saints aren't regular saints. They're more akin to Heroes of the Soviet Union. I just call them saints to piss off someone in my region.


sounds like what i do

though i just do it because it makes my nation more homoerotic than it already is
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12:02:02 AM <Tarsas> premislyd is my spirit animal tbh

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Postby Anshaskia » Tue May 19, 2015 12:23 am

Crookfur wrote:
Anshaskia wrote:Oh, cool. Do you have any links? I couldn't find anything like that myself.

The plainest reference was on the imfdb page which seems to have its source in a copy of Jane's. It does also seem that there was a mass dump of 24 and 26s in the 60s when the vz.58 finally came on stream in large numbers. These would pretty much have to go to client states as most of the close neighbours already had thier own SMGs or were busy going all AK.

Alright. Thanks a ton.

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Postby Tulacia » Tue May 19, 2015 5:26 am

Estovnia wrote:pirate saints

as if this thread can't get any worse


Hey, pirates are pretty cool...
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Postby New Visegrad » Tue May 19, 2015 5:55 am

workin on stuff to pass my 3 hour lunch break
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Tauxie M8 EMDCA (WIP)
The M8 EMDCA (usually referred to as the "Tauxie" after its original manufacturer, or "em-decka" after its abbreviated classification) is a rather unique weapon. Designed to incapacitate even heavily-augmented adversaries, it fires a 9mm Electromagnetic Discharge Capacitor via a gauss coil system. The EMDC carries a powerful electric charge, boosted by the EMP from the gauss coils, which can overload cerebral augmetics. The effect is improved if the target has other augmetics that are not properly shielded against EMPs; the EMDC shock can cause such augmetics to emit a surge from their own power cells.

The Tauxie is a highly-valued device for bouncers in establishments frequented by mercenaries and pirates, as well as for law enforcement in areas where Governance Safeguards (with their particle weapons capable of creating a disruptive pulse as integral functionality) are not yet active.
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It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
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Postby Crookfur » Tue May 19, 2015 7:13 am

Tulacia wrote:
Crookfur wrote:A few other things now that I have a bit more time?

Why use level/formation designations that are out of whack with common usage? Do you really hate the terms platoon brigade and regiment?

As to the the squad the TL and assistant TL should both have the same rifles as everyone else.
It won't be a sniper but a marksman or sharp shooter, designated marksman to use the current fashionable phrase.
Guys with rocket launchers are unlikely to be packing bit ATGMs like javelin (again those are likely to be found as part of a weapons platoon/company) but certainly a LAWalike, SMAW, a small atgm like mbt law or eryx or RPG would be suitable.

Your rifles just sound like common or garden assault rifles. No real need to go into much detail on them here.

A medic is an iffy thing. Personally I don't see a medic being needed at the squad level and would just give one of the riflemen and the NCOs a little bit more training to use the first aid pack each guy carrys. A full blown medic would be more suitable as part of the platoon HQ.

On the platoon HQ the junior officer doesn't need a whole squad to worry about and the HQ should be focused on allowing him to command and support the platoon as a whole so all it needs is the platoon leader, senior nco, a signaller or two, maybe a medic and possibly a 2 man team with a light mortar or more capable atgm like javelin.


This was pretty much a copy/paste from a WWII AU wargame I was doing, so there is quite some room for improvement, as you point out.

However, from this point forward I have decided that since I know next to nothing about modern warfare and a lot about WWII and the early Cold War tech, I'm just going to do PT with a post-WWII focus. This thereby negates some of the points you make, but still a few can be addressed.

For example, the naming. That's just because I wanted to be a little unique so it wasn't a complete copy/paste of the US WWII formations.

I do agree with the last point while changing it to the PT type stuff (so maybe a light towed AT gun or two instead of a Javelin).


well the difference between a ww2 squad/sectiona dn current one isn't that huge so you likely know more than you think you do.

On the formation names, they aren't just american but more or less an international standard and whilst there will be local differences (such as say the chinese not using direct translations of the common terms) outsiders and anything aimed at an international readership will tend to use the the common terms so that everyone is on the same page and you don't have to keep explaining things.
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Postby Azurg » Tue May 19, 2015 7:46 am

Hey,
Do linkless feed drums require a separate power source? Or can they be done with springs and the like?
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue May 19, 2015 7:52 am

Azurg wrote:Hey,
Do linkless feed drums require a separate power source? Or can they be done with springs and the like?


Linkless? Like drums on non-belt fed weapons? Yeah I think they're all used with springs.
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Postby Azurg » Tue May 19, 2015 8:06 am

Fordorsia wrote:Linkless? Like drums on non-belt fed weapons? Yeah I think they're all used with springs.

Kind of. I was thinking mor like the drums they use to feed aircraft cannons and the like, but shrunk down to small arms size.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue May 19, 2015 8:09 am

The two aren't hugely comparable, I'm afraid.
Because of the low total ammunition and low ammunition weight, you might get away with spring feed or something, but I'm not certain.
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue May 19, 2015 8:56 am

Azurg wrote:Hey,
Do linkless feed drums require a separate power source? Or can they be done with springs and the like?


If you mean Bren pan can, that uses a spring for linkless feed. If you mean linkless belted, that needs external power to ram the rounds through the chute.
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