Infantry Discussion Thread 6: True Korea Edition

[Imperializt Russia]

"Any officer who goes into battle without his sword is improperly dressed."

[EsToVnIa]

Unfortunately Arch, that's one of the problems with the thread is nobody reads infantry sperg stuff ; _ ;

So you're just doing fire-and-maneuver with 15 man sections/squads?

There's no real problem with any of it, aside from 45-60 men companies being really small.

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http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Estovnian_Army#Infantry

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[Fordorsia]

"Any officer who goes into battle without his sword is improperly dressed."

Yeah the guy who supposedly marched into battle playing bagpipes and carrying a longbow and sword sure knew what he was talking about.

[Immoren]

Unfortunately Arch, that's one of the problems with the thread is nobody reads infantry sperg stuff ; _ ;

So you're just doing fire-and-maneuver with 15 man sections/squads?

There's no real problem with any of it, aside from 45-60 men companies being really small.

I think it doesn't matter, if company is meant to act like an overgrown platoon, rather than comtemporary company.

[Azurg]

"Any officer who goes into battle without his sword is improperly dressed."

In a nutshell.

While officers are expected to initiate charges, or discipline deserters, they rarely engage in combat.

Probably. I don't know. I just like the thought of an officer leading a bayonet charge with sword in hand.

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Unfortunately Arch, that's one of the problems with the thread is nobody reads infantry sperg stuff ; _ ;

I've noticed. Worse still, I feel my ideas are far to stupid/trifling to bring to the MilReal thread.

So you're just doing fire-and-maneuver with 15 man sections/squads?

More or less.

There's no real problem with any of it, aside from 45-60 men companies being really small.

It's seventy-five ratmen plus, though. That said, I think you're right. I'm probably going to end up tripling the size of the rifle platoons. That'd put a company up to 176-180 ratmen in all.

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Estovnian_Army#Infantry

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Dat sperg doe.

[EsToVnIa]

It's seventy-five ratmen plus, though. That said, I think you're right. I'm probably going to end up tripling the size of the rifle platoons. That'd put a company up to 176-180 ratmen in all.

Yeah I just saw "3-5" so I just multiplied by 15 without taking into account the other platoon sizes

75 men is fine. You're just going to have a lot more of subunits in say, a brigade, or battalion which may reduce the overall effectiveness.

Edit: it would be more spergy if i could fit if https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/169 ... ia/BCT.png this would fit without making the page poop :c

[Azurg]

Yeah I just saw "3-5" so I just multiplied by 15 without taking into account the other platoon sizes

75 men is fine. You're just going to have a lot more of subunits in say, a brigade, or battalion which may reduce the overall effectiveness.

Eh, either way. Too, I figure having massive rifle platoons better fits with the idea that they're largely disposable bullet sponges who's main purpose is to outlast the enemy's rifle platoon.

As for overall effectiveness, there's meant to be a goodly bit of inefficiency and political/bureaucratic muddahfukkery in the higher ranks. I'm going for a bit of a Stalinist Red Army type deal.

Edit: it would be more spergy if i could fit if https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/169 ... ia/BCT.png this would fit without making the page poop :c

Perhaps you can cut some of the margin from between the columns?

[Mansuriyyah Islamic State]

Hi everyone,

Based on my total number of personel in the Army, how many Divisions can I field? I'd prefer a means to calculate it so if I have to change my nation's Armed Forces size I can reaculculate the number of divisions.

[EsToVnIa]

Yeah I just saw "3-5" so I just multiplied by 15 without taking into account the other platoon sizes

75 men is fine. You're just going to have a lot more of subunits in say, a brigade, or battalion which may reduce the overall effectiveness.

Eh, either way. Too, I figure having massive rifle platoons better fits with the idea that they're largely disposable bullet sponges who's main purpose is to outlast the enemy's rifle platoon.

As for overall effectiveness, there's meant to be a goodly bit of inefficiency and political/bureaucratic muddahfukkery in the higher ranks. I'm going for a bit of a Stalinist Red Army type deal.

Then you should keep the current layout. Nothing screams inefficiency like have 8 companies in a battalion D

Perhaps you can cut some of the margin from between the columns?

I should've clarified. By "sperg" I meant thinly hiding my own sexual shortcomings by trying to make my military seem rly OP.

Hi everyone,

Based on my total number of personel in the Army, how many Divisions can I field? I'd prefer a means to calculate it so if I have to change my nation's Armed Forces size I can reaculculate the number of divisions.

This is a question best suited for the MilRealism Consultation Thread.

[Imperializt Russia]

Hi everyone,

Based on my total number of personel in the Army, how many Divisions can I field? I'd prefer a means to calculate it so if I have to change my nation's Armed Forces size I can reaculculate the number of divisions.

This is not a number that you could or really should try to extrapolate from your total personnel, since anything up to half of those men will not be fighting men, many of them not in fighting forces.

[Azurg]

Then you should keep the current layout. Nothing screams inefficiency like have 8 companies in a battalion D

Why not both?

I should've clarified. By "sperg" I meant thinly hiding my own sexual shortcomings by trying to make my military seem rly OP.

Ah, I see.

[Immoren]

Then you should keep the current layout. Nothing screams inefficiency like have 8 companies in a battalion D

How Napoleonic.

[Ulfr-Reich]

Well what it is, is an 18.5mm piece of hollow metal that, through witchcraft and evil, becomes significantly larger than 18.5mm.

You think the ride ends there?

Oh no, I've got mymurderous cartridgesof yesteryear tucked away nice and safe. Some new production glory exists in a way that might surprise you.







Because this is a whole hell of alot better than threadjacking over fucking swords.

[Husseinarti]

*cough* MG 42 *cough*

Yeah but it wasn't a standard MG at the squad level.

It was used, by it never even close to replaced the MG34

[Fordorsia]

Speaking of swords, I might have my model of Cherusker sword be used by Germanic mercernaries. That way the shorter cleaving swords could be used by Fordorsian pikemen instead of one replacing the other.

[Questers]

erm swords

[Ulfr-Reich]

erm swords

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Gurkha's gonna gank.

[Anshaskia]

Unfortunately Arch, that's one of the problems with the thread is nobody reads infantry sperg stuff ; _ ;

So you're just doing fire-and-maneuver with 15 man sections/squads?

There's no real problem with any of it, aside from 45-60 men companies being really small.

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http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Estovnian_Army#Infantry

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I didn't know modernized armies still used recoilless rifle. I thought they were pretty much ineffective against armour nowadays.

[EsToVnIa]

Unfortunately Arch, that's one of the problems with the thread is nobody reads infantry sperg stuff ; _ ;

So you're just doing fire-and-maneuver with 15 man sections/squads?

There's no real problem with any of it, aside from 45-60 men companies being really small.

---

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Estovnian_Army#Infantry

moar sperg

I didn't know modernized armies still used reconciles rifles. I thought they were pretty much ineffective against armour nowadays.

Depends on the armor but they're p useful for fortifications.

[Imperializt Russia]

Unfortunately Arch, that's one of the problems with the thread is nobody reads infantry sperg stuff ; _ ;

So you're just doing fire-and-maneuver with 15 man sections/squads?

There's no real problem with any of it, aside from 45-60 men companies being really small.

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http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Estovnian_Army#Infantry

moar sperg

I didn't know modernized armies still used reconciles rifles. I thought they were pretty much ineffective against armour nowadays.

RPG-29 says hi.

[EsToVnIa]

RPG-29 is the exception though ; _ ;

it's just too op

[Anshaskia]

How is the RPG-29 a recoilless rifle?

[Immoren]

Unfortunately Arch, that's one of the problems with the thread is nobody reads infantry sperg stuff ; _ ;

So you're just doing fire-and-maneuver with 15 man sections/squads?

There's no real problem with any of it, aside from 45-60 men companies being really small.

---

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Estovnian_Army#Infantry

moar sperg

I didn't know modernized armies still used reconciles rifles. I thought they were pretty much ineffective against armour nowadays.

Depends on shot placement.

[Imperializt Russia]

How is the RPG-29 a recoilless rifle?

Its rocket motor burns out in the tube, so it acts like a recoilless rifle. The sheer bulk of both the launcher and ammunition also lend credence to this. It's only a 105mm.

[Anshaskia]

How is the RPG-29 a recoilless rifle?

Its rocket motor burns out in the tube, so it acts like a recoilless rifle. The sheer bulk of both the launcher and ammunition also lend credence to this. It's only a 105mm.

Alright. I never saw one fire before, so I just figured it worked the same way as other rocket launchers.