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Puzikas
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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Sevv
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Estovnia
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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:02 pm

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The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:Energy shielding is good for whatever the author says it is good for. It is featured in a great deal of sci-fi, and has varying properties depending on what sci-fi universe it is in.

Most sci-fi creators know that energy shielding is probably not very practical and real life, and guess what, they don't give a shit. Imposing limitations on creativity is detrimental.

If I have an idea I like, I'm going to use it. I'm not going to go read a bloody physics textbook to see if it would work, because that's stupid.

When I do scifi ships are ramming eachother and exchanging broadsides. Do you really think I give a flying fuck about hard realism? I don't. But some things are absolutely unreasonable.
And I do not take the view that really strong energy shields or anti-gravity technology are unreasonable.

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Postby Deiorus » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:04 pm

Azurg wrote:
Deiorus wrote:Buzz off commie, State Capitalism isn't communism. Also, *tips monarchy*

Mind yourself, boy. Azurg hasn't been a communist nation since the late 80s.

Perhaps we can sweeten the pot somewhat? New uniforms, surplus vehicles, trainers and advisors. . .

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:07 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:When I do scifi ships are ramming eachother and exchanging broadsides. Do you really think I give a flying fuck about hard realism? I don't. But some things are absolutely unreasonable.
And I do not take the view that really strong energy shields or anti-gravity technology are unreasonable.

They are when you're knocking planets out of the way.
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Postby Azurg » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:10 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:And I do not take the view that really strong energy shields or anti-gravity technology are unreasonable.

Eh, I suppose at this stage it's all a matter of personal preference.



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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:13 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:And I do not take the view that really strong energy shields or anti-gravity technology are unreasonable.

They are when you're knocking planets out of the way.
Maybe if I was claiming to have such tech as a smaller nation. But the UNE is 5 billion years old and spans over a million galaxies. Think of what kind of technology we could come up with, given 5 billions years. We could not possibly comprehend it. It's not unreasonable for a race that manufactures planets or even entire galaxies given enough time. Have you never heard of the Kardashev Scale? A IV on that scale would be seen practically as omnipotent gods, according to the Wikipedia definitions. The UNE is a 3.5 on that scale, roughly.
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Postby Puzikas » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:16 pm




You do not fit into the "some of you" category then.


The StG-51/52 was developed by Waffenfabkik Bern shorty after World War 2 as a potential replacement for the K31 series rifle. Chambered in a proprietary 7.5x38mm Kurzpatrone. 8.5 gram projectile at 770 m/s. it had a rate of fire of 700 rounds/minute from a 30 round box magazine, barrel of 500mm length and OAL of 945mm, weight 4.2kg/4.95kg loaded.

The StG52 improved over the original StG-51 by addition of a compensator/flash suppressor, change in bipod mounting, and a folding stock.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:16 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:They are when you're knocking planets out of the way.
Maybe if I was claiming to have such tech as a smaller nation. But the UNE is 5 billion years old and spans over a million galaxies. Think of what kind of technology we could come up with, given 5 billions years. We could not possibly comprehend it. It's not unreasonable for a race that manufactures planets or even entire galaxies given enough time. Have you never heard of the Kardashev Scale? A IV on that scale would be seen practically as omnipotent gods, according to the Wikipedia definitions. The UNE is a 3.5 on that scale, roughly.

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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:19 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:They are when you're knocking planets out of the way.
Maybe if I was claiming to have such tech as a smaller nation. But the UNE is 5 billion years old and spans over a million galaxies. Think of what kind of technology we could come up with, given 5 billions years. We could not possibly comprehend it. It's not unreasonable for a race that manufactures planets or even entire galaxies given enough time. Have you never heard of the Kardashev Scale? A IV on that scale would be seen practically as omnipotent gods, according to the Wikipedia definitions. The UNE is a 3.5 on that scale, roughly.


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Postby Stahn » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:19 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Stahn wrote:
I didn't know.



You do not fit into the "some of you" category then.


The StG-51/52 was developed by Waffenfabkik Bern shorty after World War 2 as a potential replacement for the K31 series rifle. Chambered in a proprietary 7.5x38mm Kurzpatrone. 8.5 gram projectile at 770 m/s. it had a rate of fire of 700 rounds/minute from a 30 round box magazine, barrel of 500mm length and OAL of 945mm, weight 4.2kg/4.95kg loaded.

The StG52 improved over the original StG-51 by addition of a compensator/flash suppressor, change in bipod mounting, and a folding stock.


If I had known I doubt I would have made the rifle. :/

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:23 pm

Bezombia wrote:
The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:Maybe if I was claiming to have such tech as a smaller nation. But the UNE is 5 billion years old and spans over a million galaxies. Think of what kind of technology we could come up with, given 5 billions years. We could not possibly comprehend it. It's not unreasonable for a race that manufactures planets or even entire galaxies given enough time. Have you never heard of the Kardashev Scale? A IV on that scale would be seen practically as omnipotent gods, according to the Wikipedia definitions. The UNE is a 3.5 on that scale, roughly.


Protip: When you get to the point where your fake NS nation consists entirely of Monoliths from 2001: A Space Odyssey, you've done something very very wrong.

That or something very, very right.
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:37 pm

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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:47 pm

Bezombia wrote:
The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:Maybe if I was claiming to have such tech as a smaller nation. But the UNE is 5 billion years old and spans over a million galaxies. Think of what kind of technology we could come up with, given 5 billions years. We could not possibly comprehend it. It's not unreasonable for a race that manufactures planets or even entire galaxies given enough time. Have you never heard of the Kardashev Scale? A IV on that scale would be seen practically as omnipotent gods, according to the Wikipedia definitions. The UNE is a 3.5 on that scale, roughly.

Protip: When you get to the point where your fake NS nation consists entirely of Monoliths from 2001: A Space Odyssey, you've done something very very wrong.

"Do things my way or else you're doing it wrong"

Perhaps I never should have posted in a thread full of realism pushing pricks that want to shove their idea of what real sci-fi is down everyone's throats.

LOL GUNS SHUD ONLY FIRE BULLITS

STAR SHIPS SHOULD BE SMALL AND SUCK AND BLOW UP WHEN A ROCK HITS THEM LOL

ENURGEE SHEELDS DONT REAL N00B XD

What a cesspool of anti-creativity this thread is.

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Postby Bezombia » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:47 pm

Well then.
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Postby Stahn » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:48 pm

At least it is not in 7.5x55mm Swiss. I do prefer the German OG.

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:49 pm

Bezombia wrote:Well then.


Quite.
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:51 pm

7.5x38mm Kurzpatrone for anyone with giveable damns.

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fun fact, this was the basis for almost ALL of the Khornatenreichs' original rifles, just more of the "OG stg45" and the Gerat 06H's actions' slapped together into a triplefuck threesome baby of evil fascist Khornazism.

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Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
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Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
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Postby Stahn » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:52 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:
Bezombia wrote:Protip: When you get to the point where your fake NS nation consists entirely of Monoliths from 2001: A Space Odyssey, you've done something very very wrong.

"Do things my way or else you're doing it wrong"

Perhaps I never should have posted in a thread full of realism pushing pricks that want to shove their idea of what real sci-fi is down everyone's throats.

LOL GUNS SHUD ONLY FIRE BULLITS

STAR SHIPS SHOULD BE SMALL AND SUCK AND BLOW UP WHEN A ROCK HITS THEM LOL

ENURGEE SHEELDS DONT REAL N00B XD

What a cesspool of anti-creativity this thread is.


:(

There are many other people on NS that seem to me would appreciate your ideas but these types of threads are heavily focussed on realism.

Future Tech or fantasy tech doesn't mix well with that.
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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:10 pm

Sorry for getting steamed, but I don't like getting told that not doing things someone else's way is the wrong way. This nation is not just a game for me, like I said earlier, I didn't make it for this site. It exists outside of the site, and I created it long before I started playing NationStates. It's part of my own personal universe, which I develop through my art, and it's basically my whole life.

So you can imagine why being told I'm 'doing it wrong' would piss me off.

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Postby New Tsavon » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:16 pm

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:What a cesspool of anti-creativity this thread is.

You're under no obligation to post here.

This is after all, a realism thread. If you bothered to read the OP, you 'd know that anything posted here will be criticized from a realistic perspective.

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New Tsavon wrote:I'm just going to direct you here.

Why? I don't need advice on roleplaying, I don't roleplay.

Well, that simplifies things immensely.


Is it bad that I like that rifle?
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Postby Padnak » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:19 pm

New Tsavon wrote:
The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:What a cesspool of anti-creativity this thread is.

You're under no obligation to post here.

This is after all, a realism thread. If you bothered to read the OP, you 'd know that anything posted here will be criticized from a realistic perspective.


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Postby The balkens » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:19 pm



Great Puz, you gave me Eye Cancer.

Now i have to look at a Proper FG42 as a cure.

I hope youre happy.

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Postby Purpelia » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:29 pm

Been reading about the most awesome rifle of the 50's ever, the SG 510 and I ran into this line: "The butt-stock and hand guard of the rifle are rubberized for comfort and durability and the front hand guard is ribbed to provide a better grip."

What does that mean, rubberized? Is it just a fancy way of saying that the thing had rubber glued onto it or something?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:46 pm

Purpelia wrote:Been reading about the most awesome rifle of the 50's ever, the SG 510 and I ran into this line: "The butt-stock and hand guard of the rifle are rubberized for comfort and durability and the front hand guard is ribbed to provide a better grip."

What does that mean, rubberized? Is it just a fancy way of saying that the thing had rubber glued onto it or something?


It has a thin layer of rubber coating.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:50 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Been reading about the most awesome rifle of the 50's ever, the SG 510 and I ran into this line: "The butt-stock and hand guard of the rifle are rubberized for comfort and durability and the front hand guard is ribbed to provide a better grip."

What does that mean, rubberized? Is it just a fancy way of saying that the thing had rubber glued onto it or something?


It has a thin layer of rubber coating.

Thanks. I thought as much but wanted to check. Basically my rifle is 99% complete at this point. All I need to do is the flavor text. So I am researching stuff.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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