
An infantry company based around squadless infantry platoons and thirty grenade launchers
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by New Visegrad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:26 am

by Western Weyard » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:51 am
New Visegrad wrote:everyone's favourite Leopard variant is back
Still needs tracks, weathering, and gradient shading, and I'll probably do a "field rig" variant with blankets etc as well, but the basic shading has definitely really started to pull it together.
Mefpan wrote:I'd rather have them throw the region into shit zone than have Erdogan strap rocket boosters to his country and Wernher von Braun it there and damn the obstacles.

by New Visegrad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:24 pm
Western Weyard wrote:New Visegrad wrote:everyone's favourite Leopard variant is back
Still needs tracks, weathering, and gradient shading, and I'll probably do a "field rig" variant with blankets etc as well, but the basic shading has definitely really started to pull it together.
Me like!![]()
But... Why the searchlight? (I assume the box on top of the mantlet is a searchlight)

by Western Weyard » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:53 pm
New Visegrad wrote:Many real Leo variants had a spotlight/IR illuminator (including the one I traced, eheh) since night vision gear at the time was not great. While it's no longer necessary for the tank's own benefit, thanks to advances in NV technology, the Leopard 1*'s role as a handout to irregular militias makes the spotlight useful for supporting infantry who are unlikely have NV goggles of their own.
Mefpan wrote:I'd rather have them throw the region into shit zone than have Erdogan strap rocket boosters to his country and Wernher von Braun it there and damn the obstacles.

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by Gallia- » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:20 pm
New Visegrad wrote:Western Weyard wrote:
Me like!![]()
But... Why the searchlight? (I assume the box on top of the mantlet is a searchlight)
Many real Leo variants had a spotlight/IR illuminator (including the one I traced, eheh) since night vision gear at the time was not great. While it's no longer necessary for the tank's own benefit, thanks to advances in NV technology, the Leopard 1*'s role as a handout to irregular militias makes the spotlight useful for supporting infantry who are unlikely have NV goggles of their own.

by New Visegrad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:24 pm
Gallia- wrote:New Visegrad wrote:Many real Leo variants had a spotlight/IR illuminator (including the one I traced, eheh) since night vision gear at the time was not great. While it's no longer necessary for the tank's own benefit, thanks to advances in NV technology, the Leopard 1*'s role as a handout to irregular militias makes the spotlight useful for supporting infantry who are unlikely have NV goggles of their own.
Flares exist.

by Gallia- » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:41 pm

by New Visegrad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:52 pm
Gallia- wrote:New Visegrad wrote:Wow, I had no idea! Thanks for that wonderful insight, you've changed my entire view of the world in general and night fighting in particular!
Searchlights weren't common for obvious reasons when tank-mounted flares were available, see Strv 103 and Ikv 91, there are other examples. Their primary use was always intended to be a really bad infrared sight with a range of maybe 800 yards or something, which is why all searchlights were infrared lamps first. Not that it matters, since the range of a searchlight on most every tank except the beefiest of all lights is less than the range of a recoilless rifle.
If you lack the infrared intensification gear necessary to use the searchlight (you should, these searchlights were old 30 years ago, not to say today) you shouldn't have it. It's much better to just have a passive thermal sight, which literally every tank on Earth except the shittiest of all have nowadays, and moreso in whatever "futuristic" setting you have in mind for this thing. Infantry can make do with flares and tracer fire from your tank, and it's far more important that the tank is able to see what it's shooting at rather than the infantry anyway.
If you really want some kind of weird/outmoded infantry support thing on your tank, give it 71mm flare launchers like Ikv 91, a tank whose entire job was to follow infantrymen around and provide weird services to them like illumination of targets. You'll not only have greater range (a visible light searchlight like XSW-30-U or whatever the M48s had in Vietnam would see out to like a kilometer and change, you need beefier lights to get to respectable distances of 2-3 km) but you'll be less obvious a target to whatever isn't looking directly at you.
This is a bit like having a supersonic fighter jet with a pair of .50 caliber machine guns in the wings TBH. Or a collimating gun sight instead of a HUD/HMD. It's needlessly anachronistic and frankly useless when modern alternatives exist.
If you really need to spot targets for infantry for whatever reason (the reverse of what actually happens!), a medium machine gun with a FLIR and tracers is far more useful and less obvious. All mediocre tanks have this.

by Western Weyard » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:58 pm
New Visegrad wrote:Hell, since you mention it, I think I'll do a Canal Defence variant with some kind of Batsignal thing instead of a main gun.
Mefpan wrote:I'd rather have them throw the region into shit zone than have Erdogan strap rocket boosters to his country and Wernher von Braun it there and damn the obstacles.

by Gallia- » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:05 pm
New Visegrad wrote:Gallia- wrote:
Searchlights weren't common for obvious reasons when tank-mounted flares were available, see Strv 103 and Ikv 91, there are other examples. Their primary use was always intended to be a really bad infrared sight with a range of maybe 800 yards or something, which is why all searchlights were infrared lamps first. Not that it matters, since the range of a searchlight on most every tank except the beefiest of all lights is less than the range of a recoilless rifle.
If you lack the infrared intensification gear necessary to use the searchlight (you should, these searchlights were old 30 years ago, not to say today) you shouldn't have it. It's much better to just have a passive thermal sight, which literally every tank on Earth except the shittiest of all have nowadays, and moreso in whatever "futuristic" setting you have in mind for this thing. Infantry can make do with flares and tracer fire from your tank, and it's far more important that the tank is able to see what it's shooting at rather than the infantry anyway.
If you really want some kind of weird/outmoded infantry support thing on your tank, give it 71mm flare launchers like Ikv 91, a tank whose entire job was to follow infantrymen around and provide weird services to them like illumination of targets. You'll not only have greater range (a visible light searchlight like XSW-30-U or whatever the M48s had in Vietnam would see out to like a kilometer and change, you need beefier lights to get to respectable distances of 2-3 km) but you'll be less obvious a target to whatever isn't looking directly at you.
This is a bit like having a supersonic fighter jet with a pair of .50 caliber machine guns in the wings TBH. Or a collimating gun sight instead of a HUD/HMD. It's needlessly anachronistic and frankly useless when modern alternatives exist.
If you really need to spot targets for infantry for whatever reason (the reverse of what actually happens!), a medium machine gun with a FLIR and tracers is far more useful and less obvious. All mediocre tanks have this.
It's literally a cheap tank designed specifically

by New Visegrad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:11 pm
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