Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Mark 8

[Imperializt Russia]

I think there were two competing missile tank projects at the same time.
IT-1 and Objekt 287 "Taifun", according to wiki.

Typhoon sounds like BMPT before its time, tbh. Pop-up missile launcher, with two Groms mounted either side.

It sounds literally nothing like BMPT.

The concept had forty years to refine itself.

[Wallenburg]

A handful of Mk1 Reginald Landships

They double as pleasure craft on Sunday drives.

[Gallia-]

It sounds literally nothing like BMPT.

The concept had forty years to refine itself.

Yes, this is true.

The refinement culminated in Object 477.

[Doppio Giudici]

Does anyone know anything about about the GIAT 120mm gun? Is it comparable to the Russia or the German counterpart?

[Antaradwipa]

A handful of Mk1 Reginald Landships
(Image)
They double as pleasure craft on Sunday drives.

National Armed Forces' Leopard 2 Tanks being deployed to evacuated civilians from riot area in Jayakarta's main commercial area.

[Imperializt Russia]

That's an abominably inefficient use of a tank unit.

You could do it cheaper and faster with these new things called medium trucks. By orders of magnitude.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

Does anyone know anything about about the GIAT 120mm gun? Is it comparable to the Russia or the German counterpart?

Russia uses a 125 mm gun. It gained reliance and power over its soviet predecessor but it is still underpowered in comparison with the 120 mm guns used by the west.
The Rhinemetal 120 mm L 55 is one of the best if not the best 120 mm gun. French tank lovers will hang me for this.
I personally put the 120 mm L 52 gun as maybe the second best gun with its caliber.
The GIAT one is used only by the Leclerc.
The Rhinemetal one is used on the: Leopard, Abrams and the K1 tanks. The K2 will use the 122 L 55

[Dostanuot Loj]

Does anyone know anything about about the GIAT 120mm gun? Is it comparable to the Russia or the German counterpart?

Yes I do know stuff about it.
Better then Russian, equal to the German.

The French gun and the German gun are virtually identical except for a few minor changes. They even use the exact same ammunition.
The French gun is longer then the L/44, shorter then the L/55. It also lacks a bore evactuator and has a different recoil system.
Same ammunition though.

[San-Silvacian]

iirc the Lelcerc has an overpressure system to force out fumes from the firing of the gun.

[Sredinskaya]

so...

[Antaradwipa]

That's an abominably inefficient use of a tank unit.

You could do it cheaper and faster with these new things called medium trucks. By orders of magnitude.

I know. but the government decide that it's for the rule of cool.






OOC: that picture actually came from 2014 Indonesia's armed forces day celebration in Surabaya, when the army offered people joyride.

[Anemos Major]

The French gun and the German gun are virtually identical except for a few minor changes. They even use the exact same ammunition.
The French gun is longer then the L/44, shorter then the L/55. It also lacks a bore evactuator and has a different recoil system.
Same ammunition though.

The French use their own ammunition, the Germans use their own ammunition.

In theory, there's intercompatibility. In practice, I have yet to find records that indicate French 120mm ammunition being tested in Rheinmetall guns. Cross-compatibility isn't really quite that simple - even within Japan, after all, the Type 10 can fire 120mm ammunition that can't be fired from the Type 90's license produced L/44.

[Radicchio]

what is the fastest AFV on the battlefield or in service today?

[Yukonastan]

so...

That is what it looks like; a suppressor for 155mm artillery. That particular range is located close to a city, so that thing muffles the blast enough to get the people to stop complaining as much.

[Gawdzendia]

so...

That is what it looks like; a suppressor for 155mm artillery. That particular range is located close to a city, so that thing muffles the blast enough to get the people to stop complaining as much.

That's hilarious.

I've been working on a rendering of my MBT1980, insofar basic shape + treads.

aaaand here's the picture I've been working off of. Which is totally not based off of Heicliffe's my dastardly left wing puppet states tank of the same name.

This post also doubles as a tag, woo!

[Questers]

what is the fastest AFV on the battlefield or in service today?

FV 107 Scorpion.

[Krazakistan]

Does anyone know anything about about the GIAT 120mm gun? Is it comparable to the Russia or the German counterpart?

Russia uses a 125 mm gun. It gained reliance and power over its soviet predecessor but it is still underpowered in comparison with the 120 mm guns used by the west.
The Rhinemetal 120 mm L 55 is one of the best if not the best 120 mm gun. French tank lovers will hang me for this.
I personally put the 120 mm L 52 gun as maybe the second best gun with its caliber.
The GIAT one is used only by the Leclerc.
The Rhinemetal one is used on the: Leopard, Abrams and the K1 tanks. The K2 will use the 122 L 55

How are Russian 125mm guns underpowered compared to western 120mm guns? IIRC the only major difference between the two was ammunition.

[Purpelia]

Russia uses a 125 mm gun. It gained reliance and power over its soviet predecessor but it is still underpowered in comparison with the 120 mm guns used by the west.
The Rhinemetal 120 mm L 55 is one of the best if not the best 120 mm gun. French tank lovers will hang me for this.
I personally put the 120 mm L 52 gun as maybe the second best gun with its caliber.
The GIAT one is used only by the Leclerc.
The Rhinemetal one is used on the: Leopard, Abrams and the K1 tanks. The K2 will use the 122 L 55

How are Russian 125mm guns underpowered compared to western 120mm guns? IIRC the only major difference between the two was ammunition.

Turns out that if your ammo is weaker than the gun it self is underpowered.

[New Vihenia]

How one define "power" For a gun ? From what parameter ? Chamber pressure ? or else ?

[Krazakistan]

How are Russian 125mm guns underpowered compared to western 120mm guns? IIRC the only major difference between the two was ammunition.

Turns out that if your ammo is weaker than the gun it self is underpowered.

Isn't that only applicable for Russian KEPs vs. western KEPS? If that's the case, then it's a bit of stretch to call Russian guns underpowered than western guns if only one ammunition type is comparatively lacking.

[Gawdzendia]

How are Russian 125mm guns underpowered compared to western 120mm guns? IIRC the only major difference between the two was ammunition.

Turns out that if your ammo is weaker than the gun it self is underpowered.

So Russian ammo is inefficient compared to the capabilities of the gun itself? I've always wondered why the Russians went with 125mm and how it does hold up to German 120mm.

[Crookfur]

what is the fastest AFV on the battlefield or in service today?

FV 107 Scorpion.

IIRC its nurburgring record still stands

[Purpelia]

How one define "power" For a gun ? From what parameter ? Chamber pressure ? or else ?

The ability to penetrate it's projected targets at combat range.

[New Vihenia]

The ability to penetrate it's projected targets at combat range.

and this is more like the ammunition that matters. Who come up with that idea i wonder.

[Purpelia]

The ability to penetrate it's projected targets at combat range.

and this is more like the ammunition that matters. Who come up with that idea i wonder.

I just did. Because frankly there is no such thing as an official way of measuring one gun against another. At least none that I am aware off. So I made up one based on the only thing that makes any sense at all.