Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Mark 8

[Nachmere]

we actually practiced this. can also run a tank without the tension wheel. you remove about 1/3 of the sections to maintain tension and you can drive around quite easily. Would not recommend either over long periods of time as the great weight per wheel will wreck your suspension eventually.

[New Vihenia]

Reposting because the other thread is being shittier than usual.

Cool things:
1. Part of the tracks! Made with black path magic.
2. Playing with a new APS with conformal phased array radars. The big panel is the search radar, the second smallest panel is the tracking radar and the smallest is the communication link.
3. The gun has about 9 degrees of depression now.

Before you ask, the top view is not accurate to the current side view. It is for my reference only.

Oh.. so you're making a "Spy-3" on tank

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Alicia

[Gallan Systems]

now 3d print it

:o

[Lydenburg]

absolutely haram
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Let me guess...Yemen.

I've seen photos of those same BTR-60s with the H-90 turret before, just didn't know where they were taken. Both Libya and Eritrea did similar swapping around.

Edit - Incidentally nobody seems to know where Yemen got their AMLs and VTT type vehicles. The French only reported selling them 15 AML-90 back in the mid '70s, but in the early '90s they suddenly had nearly 200 of them including M3s which were not included in the original order. My guess is that they were donated by the Saudis, who incidentally liked fitting all their Panhard vehicles with those bloody great big searchlights.

Has anyone ever seen an AML 90 with ERA?

Not possible, I don't think the AML/Eland body can stand that kind of stress. I have heard that the Israelis offered an AML-90 with some kind of add-on Enigma looking block armour on the turret to Myanmar back when the latter bought them in 2010, but that's about it.

[Imperializt Russia]

Consider the likely trajectory, which will probably take it into APS range regardless.

The point of top-attack HEAT/EFP is to kill crew and damage vital systems in the turret because turret roof is weak. Armata has unmanned turret and separated stowage so there's not really any point. In the grand scheme, it will be an inconvenience to the maintenance crews and probably not much more.

Unless it has ~550mm RHA equivalent after ERA, i don't think it's just the turret roof that's vulnerable

A shell with 2 vertical EFPs (one smaller,one larger ), fire the shell so it travels a few meters over the target and then optical/magnetic sensors trigger the warheads when over the target, hitting either the engine, ammo/turret or crew compartments. Each one of these potentially is a "kill" on the vehicle.

Yes but remember the driving point is crew survivability. Penetrating the turret is no longer catastrophic.

[Axis Nova]

I'm fine with the crew surviving if the vehicle's knocked out. Sure, they'll (eventually) be back, probably, but in the meantime the enemy is still short a tank.

[Calipeiar]

My tank gun history (does that even make any sense)


1938 - 1942 - 50 mm
1942 - 1945 - 74 mm
1945 - 1967 - 100 mm
1967 - 1983 - 115 mm
1983 - present - 122 mm

Here is my D5 Interceptor.

Tank name: D5 Interceptor (successor to the D4 Flame)
Main armament: 122 mm PAK 46 cannon
Secondary armament: RPK machinegun
Speed: 70 km/h
Engine: Royal 370X (upgrade from D4 Flame's Royal 360)
Tracks: M1S2
Turret: Longevity 2
Shells: HEAT
Number built: 2,374

[Imperializt Russia]

My tank gun history (does that even make any sense)


1938 - 1942 - 50 mm
1942 - 1945 - 74 mm
1945 - 1967 - 100 mm
1967 - 1983 - 115 mm
1983 - present - 122 mm

Here is my D5 Interceptor... Here you go...

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Well it doesn't make a vast amount of sense because guns are typically frequently upgraded. For various reasons, often a calibre is retained whilst the guns are changed, to account for more powerful, larger shells of the same calibre. Improved ammunition for the same gun can also extend its life.

[Calipeiar]

My tank gun history (does that even make any sense)


1938 - 1942 - 50 mm
1942 - 1945 - 74 mm
1945 - 1967 - 100 mm
1967 - 1983 - 115 mm
1983 - present - 122 mm

Here is my D5 Interceptor... Here you go...

(Image)

Well it doesn't make a vast amount of sense because guns are typically frequently upgraded. For various reasons, often a calibre is retained whilst the guns are changed, to account for more powerful, larger shells of the same calibre. Improved ammunition for the same gun can also extend its life.

Well maybe if... I made a longer barrel, I could account for bigger calibers? Because my older tank, the D4 Flame, had a 115 mm cannon. It wasn't a huge difference at all.

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

Instead of having a hard and fast cutoff date for your guns, take into account that it takes time to refit an entire tank fleet with new guns or new tanks. Older guns will remain in service long past when newer guns have become available, because they are still useful to troops who might not be expected to see heavy combat, or can be in reserve.

[The Akasha Colony]

I'm fine with the crew surviving if the vehicle's knocked out. Sure, they'll (eventually) be back, probably, but in the meantime the enemy is still short a tank.

They'll be back like the next day, either in a new tank or one recently repaired from the field depot. They might even be back in their original tank, depending on how much work it takes to repair it.

[Nachmere]

penetrating the turret can be as catastrophic as anything. the best way to kill or injure the crew severely is to cause ammunition or fuel to explode. Even the unmanned turret of the Armata has ammo in it.

Simple penetration of non ammo/fuel holding areas is unlikely to kill the crew or knock out the tank for more than a few hours.

You can hit a tank with 5 ATGMs, penetrate it twice, and not kill anyone or destroy the tank. Tanks are tough bastards.

[Imperializt Russia]

penetrating the turret can be as catastrophic as anything. the best way to kill or injure the crew severely is to cause ammunition or fuel to explode. Even the unmanned turret of the Armata has ammo in it.

Simple penetration of non ammo/fuel holding areas is unlikely to kill the crew or knock out the tank for more than a few hours.

You can hit a tank with 5 ATGMs, penetrate it twice, and not kill anyone or destroy the tank. Tanks are tough bastards.

Again, the point being - Armata has separated stowage so this isn't a likelihood. Sure, the tank is unable to fight and must deconflict but can simply return to base and be repaired, even if a "catastrophic" ammunition fire takes hold.

[Nachmere]

penetrating the turret can be as catastrophic as anything. the best way to kill or injure the crew severely is to cause ammunition or fuel to explode. Even the unmanned turret of the Armata has ammo in it.

Simple penetration of non ammo/fuel holding areas is unlikely to kill the crew or knock out the tank for more than a few hours.

You can hit a tank with 5 ATGMs, penetrate it twice, and not kill anyone or destroy the tank. Tanks are tough bastards.

Again, the point being - Armata has separated stowage so this isn't a likelihood. Sure, the tank is unable to fight and must deconflict but can simply return to base and be repaired, even if a "catastrophic" ammunition fire takes hold.

fir enough. the best shots at modern MBTs are to the sides of the hull really.

[New Visegrad]

gee I wonder what this could be

Edit:
400mm KA-43390 Falçie TVK/AM shell for Tiger XII main cannon
Disassembled
Assembly demo
Complete

Second edit:

Terminal Velocity Kinetic/Antimatter heavy projectile ammunition, 400mm calibre
Components:
- Semi-guided projectile, variable yield antimatter
- In-flight heatshield
- Standoff nosecone
- Coil acceleration armature
- Explosive propellant cartridge
- Transport casing

Operation:
By a combination of the propellant and the gun's acceleration coils, the projectile is accelerated to the highest speed possible before it begins to burn up from atmospheric friction. The casing is discarded during loading and the propellant cartridge self-immolates. The armature is discarded upon barrel exit. The heatshield and nosecone burn up in flight.
Upon impact (or other detonation criteria), the projectile's antimatter containment systems shut down and allow the payload to make contact with normal matter.

Variable yield system operation:
After the exterior casing is removed, the vehicle's loading systems remove an appropriate number of antimatter pods from the projectile to achieve the desired yield. Removed pods are stored for reuse; they can be used to overload other rounds, fitted to missiles, used as makeshift grenades, or just passed back up the supply chain.

Third edit:
composite image

[Ardavia]

a wip thing

I do like how the gun and mantlet came out. The turret, not so much.

I can't figure out how to get the track to wrap properly along the curve, even though it wraps fine around the first bend.

Whenever I feel like wrestling with Blender again, I'll probably redo the turret and add more detail to the rest of the thing.

[The Kievan People]

gee I wonder what this could be

Edit:
400mm KA-43390 Falçie TVK/AM shell for Tiger XII main cannon
Disassembled
Assembly demo
Complete

Second edit:

Terminal Velocity Kinetic/Antimatter heavy projectile ammunition, 400mm calibre
Components:
- Semi-guided projectile, variable yield antimatter
- In-flight heatshield
- Standoff nosecone
- Coil acceleration armature
- Explosive propellant cartridge
- Transport casing

Operation:
By a combination of the propellant and the gun's acceleration coils, the projectile is accelerated to the highest speed possible before it begins to burn up from atmospheric friction. The casing is discarded during loading and the propellant cartridge self-immolates. The armature is discarded upon barrel exit. The heatshield and nosecone burn up in flight.
Upon impact (or other detonation criteria), the projectile's antimatter containment systems shut down and allow the payload to make contact with normal matter.

Variable yield system operation:
After the exterior casing is removed, the vehicle's loading systems remove an appropriate number of antimatter pods from the projectile to achieve the desired yield. Removed pods are stored for reuse; they can be used to overload other rounds, fitted to missiles, used as makeshift grenades, or just passed back up the supply chain.

Third edit:
composite image

Eww a hybrid railgun.

[New Visegrad]

gee I wonder what this could be

Edit:
400mm KA-43390 Falçie TVK/AM shell for Tiger XII main cannon
Disassembled
Assembly demo
Complete

Second edit:

Terminal Velocity Kinetic/Antimatter heavy projectile ammunition, 400mm calibre
Components:
- Semi-guided projectile, variable yield antimatter
- In-flight heatshield
- Standoff nosecone
- Coil acceleration armature
- Explosive propellant cartridge
- Transport casing

Operation:
By a combination of the propellant and the gun's acceleration coils, the projectile is accelerated to the highest speed possible before it begins to burn up from atmospheric friction. The casing is discarded during loading and the propellant cartridge self-immolates. The armature is discarded upon barrel exit. The heatshield and nosecone burn up in flight.
Upon impact (or other detonation criteria), the projectile's antimatter containment systems shut down and allow the payload to make contact with normal matter.

Variable yield system operation:
After the exterior casing is removed, the vehicle's loading systems remove an appropriate number of antimatter pods from the projectile to achieve the desired yield. Removed pods are stored for reuse; they can be used to overload other rounds, fitted to missiles, used as makeshift grenades, or just passed back up the supply chain.

Third edit:
composite image

Eww a hybrid railgun.

Hybrid coilgun, actually.

[The Kievan People]

you need to lay off the dank miltech memes, it detracts from your work.

[New Visegrad]

you need to lay off the dank miltech memes, it detracts from your work.

It's nothing to do with memes, it's about progression of technology. The next version of the 400mm gun is likely to be a pure coilgun, but for this version it made more sense to improve the gauss-hybrid gun from the previous tank.
Gauss/coil technology at a tactical level is still something that's being optimized in-universe. Improvements are being made very fast compared to 21st-century methods, especially with parallel research into particle weapons which share some of the technology, but there's still a certain "we should stick with what we know works" feeling that's proving hard to overcome. The use of gauss-hybrid guns comes from refit programmes that preferred to add coil arrays to existing chemical-propellant guns rather than completely redesign the vehicle to accommodate a gauss gun.

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

you need to lay off the dank miltech memes, it detracts from your work.

720 quickscope tankscope

Do tanks with diesels use superchargers or turbochargers?

[Imperializt Russia]

you need to lay off the dank miltech memes, it detracts from your work.

720 quickscope tankscope

Do tanks with diesels use superchargers or turbochargers?

Some use both but IIRC turbochargers are more widely used.

[The Kievan People]

It's nothing to do with memes, it's about progression of technology. The next version of the 400mm gun is likely to be a pure coilgun, but for this version it made more sense to improve the gauss-hybrid gun from the previous tank.
Gauss/coil technology at a tactical level is still something that's being optimized in-universe. Improvements are being made very fast compared to 21st-century methods, especially with parallel research into particle weapons which share some of the technology, but there's still a certain "we should stick with what we know works" feeling that's proving hard to overcome. The use of gauss-hybrid guns comes from refit programmes that preferred to add coil arrays to existing chemical-propellant guns rather than completely redesign the vehicle to accommodate a gauss gun.

IRL we are fairly close to operational railguns. Coil guns are mostly toys people build in their garage, "hybrids" are all but non-existent.

It isn't a logical intermediate step.

[The Akasha Colony]

you need to lay off the dank miltech memes, it detracts from your work.

720 quickscope tankscope

Do tanks with diesels use superchargers or turbochargers?

Usually turbochargers, often with some kind of system to fight turbo-lag. At least, fancier new engines do, although many (if not most) tanks are still using engines from the 1970s-1980s.

[Laywenrania]

720 quickscope tankscope

Do tanks with diesels use superchargers or turbochargers?

according to fofanov the V-92S2 has a turbo-supercharger. Aka the ones I know are turbocharged