Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Mark 8

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

I stumbled across a goldmine of WWII tank information from some old website. This will keep me up.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Though TBH it's a little ironic that I'm here talking about modest designs while applying the finishing touches to a 75-barrel multiple rocket launcher mounted on a :not:T-55...

Well. I remember Katyusha mounts on T-70s.
Or p.e. 24x82mm on a T-60.
So depending on calibre...^^

Well in my case the turret is removed and the rockets are 110mm and rather short, so it's less Sherman Calliope and more dakkatized TOS-1. I've checked several times to make sure the tube array is narrower than the hull, but it still looks like something from the jungles of Padnak.

I can summarize why super-heavy vehicles are ineffective in a contemporary theater of operations in two words:

Cruise missile.
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What really gets to me is the idea that super-heavy vehicles should exist to counter the enemy's super-heavy vehicles. It's like saying that an MT fleet should include a few battleships in case it runs into another fleet of battleships and needs to fight them.

Compared to NS GE&T's other super-heavies, it's almost certainly the most realistic, but that's about as dubious an honor as "healthiest burger on the McDonalds menu."

[Talon Independent Nation]

I can summarize why super-heavy vehicles are ineffective in a contemporary theater of operations in two words:

Cruise missile.
(Image)

What really gets to me is the idea that super-heavy vehicles should exist to counter the enemy's super-heavy vehicles. It's like saying that an MT fleet should include a few battleships in case it runs into another fleet of battleships and needs to fight them.

Compared to NS GE&T's other super-heavies, it's almost certainly the most realistic, but that's about as dubious an honor as "healthiest burger on the McDonalds menu."

Indeed. When it comes to modern warfare, you don't really need to match the enemy force unit for unit, you just need enough explosive to blow up their units, and a way to get it to their units. If their units chug along at 5kph and have the observational signature of a small mountain, this makes that job super easy.

And so missiles did come unto man, and man did see it was good, and did smite down the land battleships of his foe with totally awesome explosions.

[Palakistan]

I can summarize why super-heavy vehicles are ineffective in a contemporary theater of operations in two words:

Cruise missile.
(Image)

What really gets to me is the idea that super-heavy vehicles should exist to counter the enemy's super-heavy vehicles. It's like saying that an MT fleet should include a few battleships in case it runs into another fleet of battleships and needs to fight them.

Compared to NS GE&T's other super-heavies, it's almost certainly the most realistic, but that's about as dubious an honor as "healthiest burger on the McDonalds menu."

Indeed. When it comes to modern warfare, you don't really need to match the enemy force unit for unit, you just need enough explosive to blow up their units, and a way to get it to their units. If their units chug along at 5kph and have the observational signature of a small mountain, this makes that job super easy.

And so missiles did come unto man, and man did see it was good, and did smite down the land battleships of his foe with totally awesome explosions.

And now I realize the folly of super tanks:
"And the Corrupt Engineer, the serpent of lankruzers, doth say, 'Whyest thou limit to small Main Battle Tanks? Whyest doth thou limit to IFV's? Behold the tree of glory and death! Buildeth of its fruit and you will knoweth the difference between bad tanks and good tanks!

[Padnak]

Well in my case the turret is removed and the rockets are 110mm and rather short, so it's less Sherman Calliope and more dakkatized TOS-1. I've checked several times to make sure the tube array is narrower than the hull, but it still looks like something from the jungles of Padnak.

Embrace the madness

[Orussia]

And so missiles did come unto man, and man did see it was good, and did smite down the land battleships of his foe with totally awesome explosions.

Sig'd.

[Dostanuot Loj]

I stumbled across a goldmine of WWII tank information from some old website. This will keep me up.

Just keep in mind that armour has changed very much since then. Composites have changed the game in ways that were unimaginable to an engineer in 1940.

[Nachmere]

I would say it could work as a terror weapon, and it would be optimal in a desert environment, attacking trenches and bunkers.

Which set can kill trenches and bunkers faster:
- 2 permanently conjoined 330mm ETC guns with 24 total stored rounds firing at ~2-3 rounds per minute?
- 75 independently mounted 125mm guns with around 3,000 total stored rounds firing at ~6-8 rounds per minute?

Which is more intimidating:
- Knowing that the enemy has a white-elephant prestige-project in your area of operations?
- Knowing that two fully supported tank battalions are bearing down on your position?

If you want a truly powerful and intimidating metal monstrosity, stop thinking of formations as amorphous groupings of vehicles and think of them as a distributed collective organism. What is a Guards Tank Regiment but a massive machine of death, bristling with 94 125mm turrets and 18 152mm turrets, fitted with a collective short-range air defense system, loaded with enough supplies for a few days' autonomous operation, crewed by more than a thousand soldiers, and capable of spreading itself over hundreds of square kilometers to distribute its attention and limit damage to its individual modular components?

I think I restrained my self a lot on the art, after all the original one i made had a small Hitler figurine standing on the turret.

A few months ago I made a Pieter Schelte Arsenal Ship conversion as a request for Allanea. I freely admit that if NS-IIers are going to be rolling around in excessively massive weapons, they might as well roll around in Allanea's excessively massive weapons, but at this point I've grown too attached to modest solutions to take these kinds of things seriously.

Though TBH it's a little ironic that I'm here talking about modest designs while applying the finishing touches to a 75-barrel multiple rocket launcher mounted on a :not:T-55...

Actually, the Aresenal ship is -far- more realistic and reasonable than this tank. However, people here who think Allanea or me are not aware of the lolziness of this tank make me laugh. Lets make this clear:
If you buy a 3500 tons tank and RP it in a realistic RP, the person who made it is not the problem.

[Imperializt Russia]

I stumbled across a goldmine of WWII tank information from some old website. This will keep me up.

Just keep in mind that armour has changed very much since then. Composites have changed the game in ways that were unimaginable to an engineer in 1940.

And from comments on the Abrams, to analysts in 1980.

[Imperializt Russia]

I can summarize why super-heavy vehicles are ineffective in a contemporary theater of operations in two words:

Cruise missile.
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If that's P-270 as claimed, Moskit is fucking brutal.

[Axis Nova]

Hell, I use land battleships (as in, similar to naval tonnage) in certain desert areas of my territory, and only in those areas. That being said they operate as mobile bases rather than as tank replacements.

Also land battleships are cool, yo.

[New Vihenia]

The only reason to have land battleship is having oceanic desert :3

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I can summarize why super-heavy vehicles are ineffective in a contemporary theater of operations in two words:

Cruise missile.
(Image)

If that's P-270 as claimed, Moskit is fucking brutal.

According to some sources it's a P-500 or derivative instead, fired by a Slava-class of the Pacific Fleet.

[Novorden]

After being told that my last turret was cramped.

Internals to come

[Imperializt Russia]

After being told that my last turret was cramped.
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Internals to come

Playing WoT made me fall in love with the Crusader's and Cromwell's boxy looks so I'm really loving this.

[Imperializt Russia]

If that's P-270 as claimed, Moskit is fucking brutal.

According to some sources it's a P-500 or derivative instead, fired by a Slava-class of the Pacific Fleet.

I googled the gif and it was frequently titled as "Mosquito".

What's the target?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

According to some sources it's a P-500 or derivative instead, fired by a Slava-class of the Pacific Fleet.

I googled the gif and it was frequently titled as "Mosquito".

What's the target?

Some fashion of container ship according to the RT source. Is also where the Slava-class comes from.

[Imperializt Russia]

I googled the gif and it was frequently titled as "Mosquito".

What's the target?

Some fashion of container ship according to the RT source. Is also where the Slava-class comes from.

I'd assume that RT can probably get "Russian ship fires Russian anti-ship missile at ship target" right.

[Schwere Panzer Abieltung 502]

I stumbled across a goldmine of WWII tank information from some old website. This will keep me up.

Just keep in mind that armour has changed very much since then. Composites have changed the game in ways that were unimaginable to an engineer in 1940.

Oh, yeah, I know that - you can't really compare WWII-era armor with the stuff available even three decades ago. I was just really happy because those are some really knowledgeable people talking about WWII armor. I know much better how it works now.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Hell, I use land battleships (as in, similar to naval tonnage) in certain desert areas of my territory, and only in those areas. That being said they operate as mobile bases rather than as tank replacements.

Each of my Tank Divisions operating in desert areas has a highly formidable Mobile Support Base which takes the form of several hundred independently driven supply trucks.

Also land battleships are cool, yo.

Mechs, WH40K tech, and Red Alert vehicles are also cool, at least according to their respective fanbases.

That doesn't make them realistic.

[Orussia]

After being told that my last turret was cramped.
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Internals to come

Good lord that's a lot of shells.

[The Soodean Imperium]

After being told that my last turret was cramped.
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Internals to come

I assume "80x 500mm" is a typo? You don't seem like the land battleship type

[Talon Independent Nation]

Hell, I use land battleships (as in, similar to naval tonnage) in certain desert areas of my territory, and only in those areas. That being said they operate as mobile bases rather than as tank replacements.

Each of my Tank Divisions operating in desert areas has a highly formidable Mobile Support Base which takes the form of several hundred independently driven supply trucks.

Also land battleships are cool, yo.

Mechs, WH40K tech, and Red Alert vehicles are also cool, at least according to their respective fanbases.

That doesn't make them realistic.

Damn straight. Just because something looks cool in a movie/game/etc. doesn't mean it's anything more than a shiny hunk of fictional crap by actual military standards. Rule of cool only means you win when you get to write the entire rulebook as well.

As a creator and proponent of advanced but also at least semi-realistic sci-fi, I say you can have your cool explosions and be valid on a basic physical and military operational basis as well. Accept no compromise!

[The Akasha Colony]

After being told that my last turret was cramped.
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Internals to come

I assume "80x 500mm" is a typo? You don't seem like the land battleship type

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It seems fine to me. I presume those are the cartridge dimensions.

[Laywenrania]

I assume "80x 500mm" is a typo? You don't seem like the land battleship type

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It seems fine to me. I presume those are the cartridge dimensions.

going by 80mm calibre and 80x500mm you will have 4m length^^
but I guess this isn't meant with 80x500mm

Although 500mm looks pretty small for a 80mm shell. p.e. the 85mm shell of the T-34-85 was 900mm long, the 88mm of the Tiger about 850mm.