Eugenics, racism, or antisemitism in your nation?

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

Was there any racism, antisemitism or eugenicism in your nation at one point in your nation's history?

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

We ban all antisemitism and eugenics our nation!

[Anollasia]

Both are banned.

[The High Tatras]

What does eugenics have to do with antisemitism?

[Themiclesia]

Was there any antisemitism or eugenics in your nation at one point in your nation's history?

There is already a thread about this, and I don't see why eugenics should be conceived as coincident with antisemitism.

[The Latin Commonwealth]

Antisemitism in the sense of going against jews is forbidden ( you can't obligue someone to like jews ).
Eugeny is allowed only in the case of in vitro fertilizations to impeach the baby to be born with a deficiency or to abort a fetus that'll be born without the brain or other organ that'll make his life impossible or too short.

[Hostenia]

Racism is illegal, eugenics are mostly illegal (people who carry recessive fatal disorders like tay-Sachs disease are given gene therapy), and antisemitism is illegal.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

What does eugenics have to do with antisemitism?

A lot the Nazis euthanized Jews because they thought they were inferior. Also Nazi eugenics was a huge back in Nazi Germany. They even wanted to erase the Jewish race!

[Venetoland]

Eugenics is banned, and we are a very homogeneous Asian, Buddhist nation.

[Themiclesia]

What does eugenics have to do with antisemitism?

A lot the Nazis euthanized Jews because they thought they were inferior. Also Nazi eugenics was a huge back in Nazi Germany. They even wanted to erase the Jewish race!

If we're talking about the Nazis, this is to be moved to General.

And you implicitly agree with the Nazis' line of thinking if you consider the Jewish nation to be a "race"; they have now their own state devoted to their interests and characterized by their culture, so the Jewish people are a "nation".

[Southern Hampshire]

There is a dislike towards people from Northern England in our country which the government has refused to ban.

[The High Tatras]

What does eugenics have to do with antisemitism?

A lot the Nazis euthanized Jews because they thought they were inferior.

I tend to associate eugenics more with early 20th century American Progressive Liberalism than I do with National Socialism. Also, I OOCly dislike the religion of the ancient Hebrews and I wish that the state of Israel could cease to exist and be deleted from all maps, although I recognize that this cannot be done in 2014 and support a two-state solution instead. I have no problems with Jewish culture and certainly no problems with supposed inborn racial characteristics.

[The Great Zedong Dynasty]

A lot the Nazis euthanized Jews because they thought they were inferior. Also Nazi eugenics was a huge back in Nazi Germany. They even wanted to erase the Jewish race!

If we're talking about the Nazis, this is to be moved to General.

[Mesrane]

Define antisemitism please. You're talking rounding up Jews in camps or some annoying comedian going way overboard when he makes fun of them? There's a big difference.

[Avalon]

Unfortunately, being an idiot is completely legal as long as you don't harm anyone while doing it. So you can be a racist and anti-Semite in Avalon if you keep your ideas to yourself.

About eugenics: while there's no clear legislation about that (the only related law in place is to avoid future blocks in genetic engineering), the government recommends to avoid incestuous breeding and offers free help and information about congenital disorders.

[Popluclquin]

Popluclquin used to have ethnic quarrels with neighboring Tarbizians back in 1772, however, when the new Empress, Theodossa IV came to power, she ended the quarrels completely and outlawed the racism against Tarbizians. Since 1781, Tarbizians and Popluclquinese begun to get along, and all allegations against Tarbizians were dropped, and quickly forgotten. Racism is strongly frowned upon in Popluclquin.

[Purpelia]

Well eugenics were somewhat popular back in the early 20th century. But they were much more popular everywhere else in the world so that's to be expected. Racism in Purpelia is not really so much a thing because it's overshadowed by nationalism which is a real thing. Antisemitism is a thing in Purpelia because quite frankly we like our own customs, culture and religious beliefs and any people that won't convert have no businesses trying to live here.

[Themiclesia]

Here's an excerpt from my OP from my thread on this topic.

In Themiclesia, the situation in ancient China is also seen for most of her history. All the people of Themiclesia, regardless of state of residence and ethnicity, are divided into 24 races, who are, akin to the analogous system of surnames in China, in theory begotten by one common female ancestor. This system is extremely ancient and probably outdates the concept of Themiclesia after all. These 24 races represent the 24 founding families of Themiclesia and their matriarchs; the period of these 24 families must have been somewhere during the middle neolithic period (about 8000 years before present), because a definite shift to patriarchy has been observed by the late neolithic and chalcolithic periods. As perhaps an anomaly in the region, Themiclesia retains her archaic traditions with inordinate fidelity even to the present day; neolithic funerary practises are in significant ways still maintained in modern funerals. Those descended from a family always took the family's name as the ὄνομα ἔθνους as the final element of their names; eventually, these families grew so large, and their members so diverse, that most family members never even knew each other. These families also originally held political sway in Themiclesia, but as they expanded, political power devolved from the family compact into the states, which originally were founded as "colonies" of these great families. By about the 3rd Millennium B.C., the "family" element of these 24 families has disappeared, and became simply another patronymic alongside the more intimate ὄνομα δῆς "family name" of one's personal, close family. This "personal" family is the product of branching of the 24 ancient "great families". Since about the 16th Century B.C., we see the name ἔθνος (translated into English as "race") being applied to the ancient great families. By then, Themiclesia had long entered the literate period, and extensive records were kept to register the origins of each personal family. In fact, before modern nationality laws were enacted, he who is part of one of these 24 races was automatically considered a national of Themiclesia (as Themiclesia is by definition composed of the descendants of these 24 families), and those ouside are permanently aliens. On another front, Themiclesia, as a conglomerate of families, does not have a clear territorial border, and does not resemble the sovereign state according to modern definition. To this day, intermarriage between members of one race remains prohibited for fear of incest, but also for fear of political instability. Since this system was already quite solid during the patriarchic phase of the neolithic history, and Themiclesia had gerontoratic elements during that era, marriage within a race meant that one could "skip" above one's generational rank, and pose threat to the elders of the family. This was detrimental to the political system, when the states were still firmly in control under the family elders. The geroncrat of the family Amphida later emerged to be the chief priest of the god of heaven in our history, resulting in his eventual recognition as the king, literally meaning "leading priest" in our native language.

Towards modernity, as foreign eugenicists started appearing on the horizon in Themiclesia, the traditional concept of eugenics came increasingly under threat; people began marrying within their own races, to the horror of the older generation, even when medical doctors certified that this will not cause defects in the child; at this point, this traditional law had already been proven to have little grounds in eugenics, and totally exposed as a political issue, cf. the theory of the monogenesis of humans saying that all humans share one common ancestor, so any marriage will result in incest etc.; this theory was not known in ancient Themiclesia, and the potential ancestral relationship of those 24 great families were ignored at the time of the formulation of this law. Its implication was so great that even today most parents will forbid their children from seeking spouse from within the race, if only to avoid the social stigma.

In the 1930s, when the theories of eugenics reached its zenith in popularity in Europe, prominent traditionalists in Themiclesia began speaking out against European eugenics on religious grounds: they accused the eugenicists of "attempting to deduce the wisdom of god" because they tried to "predict the nature of the foetus before birth" and of "transgressing the divine will" because they promoted abortions on various grounds. Abortion, aside from ones conducted due to medical reasons, was one of the worst crimes possible, and it was punishable by permanent exile of the whole family; this is because it is seen as divine command that a child should result from a foetus, and aborting it was a direct attack on the divine will. It is worse than regicide. This religious overtone to society helped prevent the more novel ideas of artificial alteration of natural marriage and pregnancy and the ridiculous idea of a "master race" from permeating into Themiclesia, making her one of the least racist countries to foreigners even though it was actually racist by its own definitions.

[Melvonia]

Oh goodness, no. We have always found all that sort of thing insupportably vulgar.

[Kanatistan]

Kanatistan had a problem regarding anti-semitism during the time they were part of the Russian Empire during the 1800s and early 1900s which stopped around the the end of Lenin control of the USSR bit flared up again during the time of the Great Patriotic War and afterwards. When the USSR fell apart Judaism was illegal and Jews were made slaves or executed. When the communists took power, finally it was outlawed to discriminate against Jews and other non-Muslim people (though for the presidency of Senerdin Ravodish all religions were persecuted). Jews are accepted and may serve in the government, even after the communists were ousted and the Libertarian Muslim group Al Saifullah Front took over.

Racism has had minor problems since for a long time Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Kazakhs were separated into different provinces in Kanatistan while the Russians, Turkmen, and Persians were unrepresented. The Kazakhs make the majority ethnicity (though outnumbered by the other ethnics joined) and though the president was of Persian descent, held the other ethnic groups as inferior. Recently though the Persians, Russians, Turkmen were given more rights as well as Russian Christians receiving land to make a new province and the Kazakh Province split.

The Foreign Minister and President are Russian, General of the Army is Jewish, and the the Governor of the Uzbek Province is Turkmen.

[Davao and Mati]

Eugenics,racism and antisemitism was prohibited via Lèse-majesté laws of Davao and Mati therefore any actions relating to this was performed this will equate as an offence to Monarchy of Davao and Mati, and the offender will receive either 2 or 3 years imprisonment or a hefty fine of DM£120,000 up to DM£3,000,000 depending on the impact.

[Panait]

Racism and anti-semitism are completely outlawed for their prejudice towards certain groups of people. Eugenics isn't outlawed as long as the actions conducted by those who practise eugenics do not conflict with our currently existing laws. It's quite unpopular and frowned upon, too.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

We fail to see what eugenics has to do with either racism or antisemitism (which is but a form of racism). It is a reputable science whose disciples contribute greatly to the Imperium and Sidh species. Sidh eugenicists engineer and breed the new generations of Sidhae, ensuring the entire nation is born in perfect health, free of genetic deficiencies and augmented for peak functionality.

Perhaps you are referring to the crude, rudimentary early attempts at eugenics in the first half of the 20th century. It was mostly idle talk by a minority of politicians in most places, some nominal and ineffective laws being introduced, and even in countries that broadly endorsed eugenics there was never a consistent and concerted effort to improve the nation's health through eugenics, the word instead being used as a cover for thinly-veiled purges of political opposition. Lack of proper technology or scientific understanding of genetics and genetic engineering limited any practical attempts at eugenics to forced sterilization or eradication of obviously-handicapped individuals, a barbarous and horribly inefficient practice that merely eliminated the weak rather than created the strong, which is the paradigm of modern eugenics, wasting otherwise perfectly useful labour force in the process.


Racism as understood by humans, i.e., intra-species racism, is unknown in our society, since we are all Sidhae and define our race by physical (i.e., augmentation), ideological and political criteria rather than anthropological ones. Converts who belong to a phenotype markedly different from the standard Sidh appearance will live out their days eventually, their genetic descendants already being adjusted to look according to the average standard.

Racism towards non-Sidhae, however, is well-accepted commonplace and officially endorsed. It is called the Imperium of SIDHAE for a reason, xenos and humans having no business being there, and if they are, it is only because we suffer them to be, so they best behave. We Sidhae don't believe in having any obligation to share our living space and limited resources with outsiders, much less ones openly hostile towards us.

As for antisemitism, it is unknown, if only for the simple lack of Jews in the part of Imperium's society that matters to any degree. While there might be quite a few Jews among the human populace, they are not liked or hated by their Sidh overlords any more than any other human ethnicity and are regarded with the same indifferent scorn that all humans are subject to. Many Sidhae may have Jewish genetic ancestors somewhere in their past, but none regard themselves as anything else than Sidhae, their genetic ancestry being merely a footnote in their codex.

[Interstellar America]

Yes, Yes, No. We're not in the business of hating other humans, only the xenos. Eugenics is practice (albeit unknowingly) to cultivate successive generations of humanity both more immune to tiberium radiation/infection and with increased ability to make use of biotic power. Racism as mentioned is targeted at actual aliens, when the entire galaxy hates you, you can't afford to be divisive internally.

[Greater Weselton]

Eugenics, racism, and anti-Semitism are official government policies here.