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How big is your military?

Huge
202
38%
Large
136
26%
Medium
79
15%
Small
57
11%
Tiny
32
6%
No Military
25
5%
 
Total votes : 531

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Zhouran
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Postby Zhouran » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:09 am

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:
Roski wrote:
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No. Not all nations have modern populations, the more advanced a nation is, the higher its population will be.

I checked the guy's factbook, and he seems more like MT (but unrealistically having a space force).

So yeah, I agree with Roski on this. Plus, Nation of warfare doesn't have a factbook on his national overview.

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Postby Kiveryaniskaya » Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:04 am

We have a huge military force compared to the world average,every military is very committed with our ideology and very well trained.
Military service is compulsory for all healthy citizens over 16 years old and when a citizen reachs 14 he/she is taken to a military camp where he/she will receive a full year of military training in one of the armed forces branch (ground forces,navy or air force). Also,the government officers go to orphanages twice in a year and take the most healthy children between 8 and 13 years old to military academies where they will receive a complete military education in one of the armed forces branch untill they reach 18.
The arms manufacturing sector is the leading sector in the economy and is very specialized and always being modernized,as well as all industrial and technological sector in the country.
The government invests more than 15% of the nations budget into the Armed forces (with plans of reaching 20%)
The Armed forces also include the Strategic Missile Forces and the Aerospace Defence forces which require an even more specialized training and education,the training in this area is not compulsory,although has the best payment.
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Postby Slavaboostan » Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:52 am

Zhouran wrote:
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When a man says that the quality of soldiers must surpass that of the quantity, remind him that when a man has five bullets he cannot kill seven when they charge him at the same time.

Gurkha excepted

"Discipline is the soul of an army. It makes small numbers formidable; procures success to the weak, and esteem to all."
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"Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory."
- General George Smith Patton, Jr.

Military size doesn't always mean victory. Look at the North Koreans. Sure, about 40% of their population are in the military/militia, but still, they lack the technology and skills to defeat the South Koreans.

Now let's look at the Chinese during the Korean War. Yes, they did have millions of soldiers, but many of them, despite being battle-hardened from the Second Sino-Japanese War and Chinese Civil War, could not push further south because of poor logistics and air-defense. And plus, most were using WW2-era weapons, in comparison to the North Koreans, who were given the latest weapons from the Soviets, but their skills were not-so-good.


And then look at the Soviets during World War II.

Just keep throwing men and at one time the enemy will break.

Then ofcourse, I'm not 100% serious, but there is a truth in this.
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Postby Zhouran » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:15 am

Slavaboostan wrote:
Zhouran wrote:"Discipline is the soul of an army. It makes small numbers formidable; procures success to the weak, and esteem to all."
- George Washington

"Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory."
- General George Smith Patton, Jr.

Military size doesn't always mean victory. Look at the North Koreans. Sure, about 40% of their population are in the military/militia, but still, they lack the technology and skills to defeat the South Koreans.

Now let's look at the Chinese during the Korean War. Yes, they did have millions of soldiers, but many of them, despite being battle-hardened from the Second Sino-Japanese War and Chinese Civil War, could not push further south because of poor logistics and air-defense. And plus, most were using WW2-era weapons, in comparison to the North Koreans, who were given the latest weapons from the Soviets, but their skills were not-so-good.


And then look at the Soviets during World War II.

Just keep throwing men and at one time the enemy will break.

Then ofcourse, I'm not 100% serious, but there is a truth in this.

1. The Soviet Union had a much larger population than Nazi Germany.

2. The Nazis were fighting in different fronts, rather than a single front. Just imagine fighting one nation but other nations are attacking you.

3. The Soviets had more resources than the Nazis.

4. The Soviets had a much larger industrial output than the Nazis.

5. The Soviets produced cheaper and simpler weapons while the Nazis produced more expensive, more hi-tech but more complex weapons, with some being over-engineered.

I know why the Soviets won, and I do find it impressive. But this is the 21st Century. Warfare is shifting. This is the age where not only is skills very important, but so is technology. We can no longer send conscripted poorly-trained soldiers to the field.

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Postby Slavaboostan » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:38 am

Zhouran wrote:
Slavaboostan wrote:
And then look at the Soviets during World War II.

Just keep throwing men and at one time the enemy will break.

Then ofcourse, I'm not 100% serious, but there is a truth in this.

1. The Soviet Union had a much larger population than Nazi Germany.

2. The Nazis were fighting in different fronts, rather than a single front. Just imagine fighting one nation but other nations are attacking you.

3. The Soviets had more resources than the Nazis.

4. The Soviets had a much larger industrial output than the Nazis.

5. The Soviets produced cheaper and simpler weapons while the Nazis produced more expensive, more hi-tech but more complex weapons, with some being over-engineered.

I know why the Soviets won, and I do find it impressive. But this is the 21st Century. Warfare is shifting. This is the age where not only is skills very important, but so is technology. We can no longer send conscripted poorly-trained soldiers to the field.


1) True, but while the Soviets had a larger population (of around 2x the amount of Nazi-Germany) the amount of units in the beginning of the war (1939) were around the same (speaking of Army).

2) Only for the last one and a half year or so, the North African front wasn't very intensive AFAIK

3) True

4) Eh, well, for the first year the Soviets were busy relocating their factories all the way to the Urals thanks to the fact that the factories were mainly located in the place where the Germans were invading

5) Hitler was a tard when it came down on logistics. When a tank needed a new part he just sended a new tank instead, scrapping the old one.

Ofcourse, warfare is shifting. It is and always will, it has been so for over 2000 years. But after all, the faction who can often pull as much units usually wins.
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Postby Asigna » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:18 am

After the fall of Terten, Drapiza, the new punong of the bayan decided that the Hukbo was "too large" which was inconvenient for the economy and also for peacetime purposes which was why he relieved a large portion of the ground army towards policing and security agencies and also proceeded to cut the budget of the Hukbo.

From 1.5 million, the Hukbo now owns a total of just more than 800,000 soldiers.
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Postby Kereta and Tutaki » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:23 am

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Postby Roski » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:23 am

The United Neptumousian Empire wrote:
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No. Not all nations have modern populations, the more advanced a nation is, the higher its population will be.


Why does he need Navy Seals with an FT:FTL size military?
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:55 am

Northern Arcadian Empire wrote:The Northern Arcadian Empire has a smallish army compared to other Future Tech nations however a huge military compared to other modern nations. Out of the 1.575 billion people here we have a military for of 20 million combined with a 700 ship fleet, this is mostly based off our militarized honor based culture. However all 20 million soldiers are not used at once most of the military is on partial reserve duty and on off world deployments. Our basic infantry soldier is called a Trooper, these are the men or women that you see on all of our military posts throughout our territory. Troopers make up a large portion of both the Army and the some parts if the Navy.

How many divisions do you have and how do you arrange/number/name them?

I ran out of designations after about 3.5k divisions.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:00 am

Zhouran wrote:
Slavaboostan wrote:
When a man says that the quality of soldiers must surpass that of the quantity, remind him that when a man has five bullets he cannot kill seven when they charge him at the same time.

Gurkha excepted

"Discipline is the soul of an army. It makes small numbers formidable; procures success to the weak, and esteem to all."
- George Washington

"Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory."
- General George Smith Patton, Jr.

Military size doesn't always mean victory. Look at the North Koreans. Sure, about 40% of their population are in the military/militia, but still, they lack the technology and skills to defeat the South Koreans.

Now let's look at the Chinese during the Korean War. Yes, they did have millions of soldiers, but many of them, despite being battle-hardened from the Second Sino-Japanese War and Chinese Civil War, could not push further south because of poor logistics and air-defense. And plus, most were using WW2-era weapons, in comparison to the North Koreans, who were given the latest weapons from the Soviets, but their skills were not-so-good.
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That noted, MacArthur was brilliant with logistics when America's back was held to the wall (island-hopping campaign and Incheon landings).
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Postby Northern Arcadian Empire » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:29 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Northern Arcadian Empire wrote:The Northern Arcadian Empire has a smallish army compared to other Future Tech nations however a huge military compared to other modern nations. Out of the 1.575 billion people here we have a military for of 20 million combined with a 700 ship fleet, this is mostly based off our militarized honor based culture. However all 20 million soldiers are not used at once most of the military is on partial reserve duty and on off world deployments. Our basic infantry soldier is called a Trooper, these are the men or women that you see on all of our military posts throughout our territory. Troopers make up a large portion of both the Army and the some parts if the Navy.

How many divisions do you have and how do you arrange/number/name them?

I ran out of designations after about 3.5k divisions.



Here is the divisions
Army- 2 Forces (1 million soldiers)
Force- 5 legions (500,000 soldiers)
Legion- 5 Sub legions (100,000 soldier)
Sub Legion- 20 Divisions- (20,000 soldiers)
Division- 5 Battalions (1,000 soldiers)
Battalion- 2 Platoons (200 soldiers)
Platoon- 10 Squads (100 soldiers)
Squad- 2 Fire teams (10 soldiers)
Fire teams- 5 Troopers (2 riflemen, 1 Designated Marksman, 1 medic, 1 close quarters expert/ Demoman)

-Navy-
Armada- (150 ships)
Fleet- (100 ships)
Sub Fleet- (50 ships)
Force- (25 ships
Sub force- (15 ships
Battle Group- (10 ships)
Detachment- (5 ships)
Patrol- (3 ships)

As for names, we name them by area, number animal as well as color. I have a lot to work on my fact books and military stats if you want i can send you the link of the fact book once I am completely finished

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Postby The Shivering Isles of Shegorath » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:26 pm

the mad god has no need for such things seeing as he can turn his foes into cheese but he keeps a tiny reserve force
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Postby Esalonia » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:57 pm

12 million troops.
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Postby San Llera » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:52 pm

600,000 troops
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Postby St Salvador » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:02 pm

6.5 Million Regulars
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Postby Stormwrath » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:21 am

Stormwrath wrote:Stormwrath has 2.5 million active personnel and 16 million reserve personnel in the Stormwrath Armed Forces, so I'd say large. However, our numbers are comparatively smaller than most intergalactic empires, as we rely more on android soldiers and sentient AI warships in battle.

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Postby Papal Republics » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:13 am

The Federation of Papal Republics has a large military, with 5 percent of the total population being enlisted in the armed forces. We exercise an interventionist foreign policy and have built alliances with other democratic, liberal, Christian, and cooperative countries to enforce our interests and human rights across the globe.
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Postby Krainin » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:55 am

The Constitutional Monarchy of Krainin is a small peaceful nation of 143,120. Krainin has a small, almost non existent, military, Royal Krainin Defence Force. Here are the sizes of the branches.

Royal Krainin Self-Defence Force
130 active
200 on reserve

Royal Krainin Navy
250

Royal Krainin Maritime-Defence Force
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Postby Living Stones » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:34 pm

We have no military to speak of.
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:37 pm

Gargantuan

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Postby Otulia » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:57 pm

The Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Otulia has a total force of 300.000 enlisted sapients, of which about 80,000 are on active duty at any given time. This means the country has a rate 3,7/1000 soldiers per one thousand people, and an active rate of about 1,0/1000. The Armed Forces pride itself on maintaining an army that serves the country's security needs, primarily, given the recent war, ensuring an ironclad defense again invasion from the south.

However, the Armed Forces can also rely, in times of invasion or rebellion, on local militias created to repel and suppress these. Currently, 120.000 militia are officially mobilized, though several thousand more are thought to be active. The Armed Forces recently announced that it intends to use militia to secure the southern border, in cooperation with the Federal Army and Federal Border Guard. These militia, having been mobilized for that purpose, will be under Federal jurisdiction, though regional premiers can, upon the application of the regional assemblies, mobilize the militia to help with natural disasters and other problems that are not national crises but still represent serious risks to the country's stability.

The Armed Forces plan to call up approximately 240.000 militia to help patrol the southern border, the largest amount ever mobilized since the foundation of the Federal Republic in 1958.

The smallest the Armed Forces' sapientpower has ever been was 84.000 overall personnel, in 1982, when the country was relatively stable and had little outside dangers.

During the years when the country was a collection of various principalities, several regions didn't have any military of any sort, but relied on larger empires to protect them, in return for tribute. If historical accounts are correct, the largest human army ever assembled was 5 million soldiers, used in the 1285 North War against the drakon. The drakon had their peak in the Golden Age of the 1000s, when the expansionist Rekan Regency numbered 100.000 drakon, though some historians call this an exaggeration. The pony races were united at their peak in 1216, when Princess Fury organized an army of 2 million ponies to expand her realm into the central regions of Otulia. The collective largest the armies of the other races ever reached as less than 1 million, at the Battle of a Thousand Nations in 1882, when the various coalitions and empires of Otulia squared off in one large combat that involved at least 10 million combatants, the largest amount of Otulian forces every assembled in the country's history. Shortly thereafter, a Unified Empire was formed, though it never surpassed the size of the Armed Forces at its nadir, outsourcing defense to local entities. The Communists did the same, and it was not until the Federal Republic that any force of 100.000 was formed for the country's defense.
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Postby Bayonetta » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:05 pm

The military of Bayonetta has a total of 586,234 troops. Out of that, we have 87,935 total active troops. 60% of all of our troops are in the army (351,740), 20% are in the navy (117,246), and 20% are in the air force(117,246).
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Postby The Selkie » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:14 pm

Our military is a professional army (no conscription or anything like that) of around 90 thousand active soldiers, 2/3 in the SDF-Army, the rest in the SDF-Navy.
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Postby Albaie » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:39 pm

Our army is vast and most men in the Imperium will at one point or another serve in it in some capacity. Due to the nature of the Imperium's feudalism if a man is not serving in the Imperial Royal Army which is the professional army of Albaie that in time's of war all men can and a lot are forced to serve their local lord in his own levies which join the Imperial Noble Army which is made up of all the levies from all of the nobles. Most of the Albaie's industries and companies are geared towards the upkeep and support of one of the branches of the Imperial Armed Forces.

Drill is a formal subject in all schools across the Imperium for boys and many go on to attend military schools or go straight into the military at the end of their schooling for a period of time before they enter civilian life and many schools have lessons in nursing for girls who are expected to serve in that capacity during a war.
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Postby Rhodevus » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:19 pm

The Rhodeve military is 2% of the population, or 1.5 million personnel. This number includes all side personnel, not just combat soldiers.

In times of greater trouble, 35% of the population can be called to the front-lines (24.5 million personnel).
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