The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, L5A1

[Purpelia]

Most people don't know as much about swords as I do.

In that case here is a tough one for you. And for everyone while we are at it.
In Purpelia private firearms ownership is as you know illegal in most cases. However mele weapons of any kind are allowed and relatively loosely regulated. So anyone can carry a sword, axe or hell a halberd out in the street for the purpose of self defense and legally use it.

So in that context how do you imagine the development of mele weapons would proceed? What kind of things would the average Purpelian citizen hope to find in his local self defense store?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Most people don't know as much about swords as I do.

In that case here is a tough one for you. And for everyone while we are at it.
In Purpelia private firearms ownership is as you know illegal in most cases. However mele weapons of any kind are allowed and relatively loosely regulated. So anyone can carry a sword, axe or hell a halberd out in the street for the purpose of self defense and legally use it.

So in that context how do you imagine the development of mele weapons would proceed? What kind of things would the average Purpelian citizen hope to find in his local self defense store?

Well, what time period are we starting from and what is currently the mainstay self defense tool? 1700s and axes? 1650s and sabres?

[Purpelia]

Well, what time period are we starting from and what is currently the mainstay self defense tool? 1700s and axes? 1650s and sabres?

Well I imagine that the starting point would be when ever the first caveman picked up the first rock. But really I think that the great divergence would be when ever swords and other melee weapons cased being mainstream implements of war. Up until that point I can see civilian and military weapon designs going hand in hand. So something like the late 19th and early 20th century really. I have no idea what was used for self defense than however. And the ultimate goal would be present day.

[Fordorsia]

Well, what time period are we starting from and what is currently the mainstay self defense tool? 1700s and axes? 1650s and sabres?

Well I imagine that the starting point would be when ever the first caveman picked up the first rock. But really I think that the great divergence would be when ever swords and other melee weapons cased being mainstream implements of war. Up until that point I can see civilian and military weapon designs going hand in hand. So something like the late 19th and early 20th century really. I have no idea what was used for self defense than however. And the ultimate goal would be present day.

Rapier.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I feel kind of bad, because I don't understand a squick of this sword stuff. I really need to learn something other than firearms.

[Vancon]

I feel kind of bad, because I don't understand a squick of this sword stuff. I really need to learn something other than firearms.

Preach it, Mr. Preacher man.

[Fordorsia]

I feel kind of bad, because I don't understand a squick of this sword stuff. I really need to learn something other than firearms.

Swords are just sharpened metal rods like guns are just tubes that spit lead. That's all anyone needs to know.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Well, what time period are we starting from and what is currently the mainstay self defense tool? 1700s and axes? 1650s and sabres?

Well I imagine that the starting point would be when ever the first caveman picked up the first rock. But really I think that the great divergence would be when ever swords and other melee weapons cased being mainstream implements of war. Up until that point I can see civilian and military weapon designs going hand in hand. So something like the late 19th and early 20th century really. I have no idea what was used for self defense than however. And the ultimate goal would be present day.

Is there a large divide between the economic classes in your nation?

[Purpelia]

Well I imagine that the starting point would be when ever the first caveman picked up the first rock. But really I think that the great divergence would be when ever swords and other melee weapons cased being mainstream implements of war. Up until that point I can see civilian and military weapon designs going hand in hand. So something like the late 19th and early 20th century really. I have no idea what was used for self defense than however. And the ultimate goal would be present day.

Is there a large divide between the economic classes in your nation?

Not really. Purpelia is an absolute feudal monarchy but the monarchy strives to impose socialism in order to keep the people content and happy. So you would not see anyone being super poor or super rich. Well aside from the nobles. Also, crime is relatively low altogether as the social security net ensures no one needs to steal in order to stay alive. And both prostitution and drugs are completely legal and a state run monopoly so there is no crime to be had there either.

[Immoren]

I feel kind of bad, because I don't understand a squick of this sword stuff. I really need to learn something other than firearms.

Rule 1) "Sword X vs Sword Y" is dumb and pointless debate if those two swords are meant for different fighting styles.

[The balkens]

Is there a large divide between the economic classes in your nation?

Not really. Purpelia is an absolute feudal monarchy but the monarchy strives to impose socialism in order to keep the people content and happy. So you would not see anyone being super poor or super rich. Well aside from the nobles. Also, crime is relatively low altogether as the social security net ensures no one needs to steal in order to stay alive. And both prostitution and drugs are completely legal and a state run monopoly so there is no crime to be had there either.

So its like Las Vegas?

[Purpelia]

I feel kind of bad, because I don't understand a squick of this sword stuff. I really need to learn something other than firearms.

Rule 1) "Sword X vs Sword Y" is dumb and pointless debate if those two swords are meant for different fighting styles.

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So its like Las Vegas?

More like Amsterdam on steroids with a pinch of xenophobia and a lot of Japanese porn comics thrown in. And I mean actual comics, not the kind of stuff that you just look at but the things with actual plot that lasts for plot arcs and stuff.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Is there a large divide between the economic classes in your nation?

Not really. Purpelia is an absolute feudal monarchy but the monarchy strives to impose socialism in order to keep the people content and happy. So you would not see anyone being super poor or super rich. Well aside from the nobles.

That pretty much sets it in stone then. Sabres for the nobility, clubs and axes for the peasantry.

[Purpelia]

Not really. Purpelia is an absolute feudal monarchy but the monarchy strives to impose socialism in order to keep the people content and happy. So you would not see anyone being super poor or super rich. Well aside from the nobles.

That pretty much sets it in stone then. Sabres for the nobility, clubs and axes for the peasantry.

The peasantry are not that poor... The average citizen is a 1st worlder in terms of living standard.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Okay then, sabres for the nobility, very plain shortswords for the peasantry.

[Fordorsia]

Not really. Purpelia is an absolute feudal monarchy but the monarchy strives to impose socialism in order to keep the people content and happy. So you would not see anyone being super poor or super rich. Well aside from the nobles.

That pretty much sets it in stone then. Sabres for the nobility, clubs and axes for the peasantry.

Sabre, rapier, epee, smallsword, broadsword for anyone.

[Eisarn-Ara]

In the land of the iron eagle, a man of good standing may clash swords with another should the concepts of diplomacy prove a failure. Usually, iron-cored bronze blades of a considerable tend to be brought out, as they were one of the many tools that helped fight off and keep the magyar menace away from europe. Obviously, fully-iron and steel blades took course and prevalence over the centuries, but never-the-less, if a pattern of weapon has secured itself into the hearts and minds of a cultures' warrior ethos, then undoubtedly such things will bear prevalence upon civil culture. Why even bother using a rapier anyway?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

That pretty much sets it in stone then. Sabres for the nobility, clubs and axes for the peasantry.

Sabre, rapier, epee, smallsword, broadsword for anyone.

Reserved, bad, bad, yes, iffy.

[Fordorsia]

Why even bother using a rapier anyway?

Rapiers are widely accepted as the best swords for one on one combat.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Why even bother using a rapier anyway?

Rapiers are widely accepted as the best swords for one on one combat.

That is a weak answer. What is your proof?

[Purpelia]

Spadroons? Seriously, I've been watching some videos on that thing and it sounds awesome. And by that I mean tacticool but useless.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

In the land of the iron eagle, a man of good standing may clash swords with another should the concepts of diplomacy prove a failure. Usually, iron-cored bronze blades of a considerable tend to be brought out, as they were one of the many tools that helped fight off and keep the magyar menace away from europe. Obviously, fully-iron and steel blades took course and prevalence over the centuries, but never-the-less, if a pattern of weapon has secured itself into the hearts and minds of a cultures' warrior ethos, then undoubtedly such things will bear prevalence upon civil culture. Why even bother using a rapier anyway?

They're extremely light and quick. In the hands of a trained duelist one would be absolutely deadly. Step, feint, thrust.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Spadroons?

For "age of sail" boarding actions and in the hands of officers' most definitely.

[Purpelia]

Spadroons?

For "age of sail" boarding actions and in the hands of officers' most definitely.

I was actually thinking for the age of the IPhone mall ninja self defense.

[Eisarn-Ara]

In the land of the iron eagle, a man of good standing may clash swords with another should the concepts of diplomacy prove a failure. Usually, iron-cored bronze blades of a considerable tend to be brought out, as they were one of the many tools that helped fight off and keep the magyar menace away from europe. Obviously, fully-iron and steel blades took course and prevalence over the centuries, but never-the-less, if a pattern of weapon has secured itself into the hearts and minds of a cultures' warrior ethos, then undoubtedly such things will bear prevalence upon civil culture. Why even bother using a rapier anyway?

They're extremely light and quick. In the hands of a trained duelist one would be absolutely deadly. Step, feint, thrust.

You mean the sport of nobles? As-in, fencing, done by people who never saw the battlefield, and lived in extravagance, wherein creating such fanciful blade concepts purely as a way of showing off their economic and cultural arrogance? Thank you, but no.