The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, L5A1

[Eisarn-Ara]

Not that I'd expect a nip-lover to understand that true military victory doesn't involve a six-mile-high butchers bill.

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Those are 1940s Russians, they don't entirely count because #stalinism.

[Allanea]

Doesn't make the victory less "true".

But if you prefer:

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Good thing the katana predates the R/J war by several hundred years.

Aw, a man who likes weapons that require obscene levels of polishing in order to actually be of any use. It's like the nips had a silly-side, decided to make something as willy-nilly silly as a foil.

A rusted, pitted katana is still of great value if you're actually using draw cuts. You know, the way you're intended to.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Doesn't make the victory less "true".

But if you prefer:

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I wonder how the Aussies and Kiwis felt/feel being used as cannon fodder almost exclusively by the British Empire.

[Allanea]

Regardless of how someone may have "Felt", there's no arguing that the Entente achieved a true military victory in WW1.

[Eisarn-Ara]

Regardless of how someone may have "Felt", there's no arguing that the Entente achieved a true military victory in WW1.

Well, that sense of cultural enmity is still felt, in fact, some could say that it contributes to the general status of the "commonwealth" to this day.

[Fordorsia]

I knew the katana would be discussed here eventually. Shit.

Bottom line is it served it's purpose as a mediocre weapon in a period of relative peace. Now now more posts about it, satirical or otherwise, you damned commies.

[Eisarn-Ara]

I knew the katana would be discussed here eventually. Shit.

Bottom line is it served it's purpose as a mediocre weapon in a period of relative peace. Now now more posts about it, satirical or otherwise, you damned commies.

Fucking Pinkos.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

I knew the katana would be discussed here eventually. Shit.

Bottom line is it served it's purpose as a mediocre weapon in a period of relative peace. Now now more posts about it, satirical or otherwise, you damned commies.

Says the guy who uses forward curving swords. They're an affront to man and god and you know it.

[Allanea]

Cultural enmity?

Most Australians are fond of Britain.

[Aqizithiuda]

In the land of the iron eagle, a man of good standing may clash swords with another should the concepts of diplomacy prove a failure. Usually, iron-cored bronze blades of a considerable tend to be brought out, as they were one of the many tools that helped fight off and keep the magyar menace away from europe. Obviously, fully-iron and steel blades took course and prevalence over the centuries, but never-the-less, if a pattern of weapon has secured itself into the hearts and minds of a cultures' warrior ethos, then undoubtedly such things will bear prevalence upon civil culture. Why even bother using a rapier anyway?

They're extremely light and quick. In the hands of a trained duelist one would be absolutely deadly. Step, feint, thrust.

A 1kg, metre long, partially sharpened sword is quicker than a shorter, equally weighted sword?

Would you guys mind giving this a look-see and perhaps giving me some constructive Crit?
Celisian Assault Rifle Model 11 [CAR-11]

You need to fix that first lot of text up.

Other than that, the magazines are too short and don't have room for a spring, and your bullet isn't anything near as special as you make out.

Cultural enmity?

Most Australians are fond of Britain.

Except for sport. Any team but England!

[Fordorsia]

I knew the katana would be discussed here eventually. Shit.

Bottom line is it served it's purpose as a mediocre weapon in a period of relative peace. Now now more posts about it, satirical or otherwise, you damned commies.

Says the guy who uses forward curving swords. They're an affront to man and god and you know it.

no u

They're extremely light and quick. In the hands of a trained duelist one would be absolutely deadly. Step, feint, thrust.

A 1kg, metre long, partially sharpened sword is quicker than a shorter, equally weighted sword?

Reach is one of the biggest factors in deciding a fight with thrusting swords. If yours is longer, you will most likely hit first. The weight is also distributed over a larger area so a rapier has much better handling than most, if not all other thrusting swords.

[Transnapastain]

the Nips haven't done anything well

Not that I'd expect a nip-lover to understand

It's like the nips had a silly-side, decided to make something as willy-nilly silly as a foil.

*** Warned for trolling *** Next infraction is no less than a one day ban. Learn the rules or find some other way to occupy your time.

Not that I'd expect a baka gaijin like you to understand.

and you can knock the baiting and flaming off, too.. We all know what "baka gaijin" means.

INow now more posts about it, satirical or otherwise, you damned commies.

Pretty sure (you can read that as "positive") you don't tell people what they can and can not discuss here. Ever. You an leave off the name calling, trivial as it may be, while you're at it.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

*Mod action attracts ASBL back to the partay*

Not that I'd expect a baka gaijin like you to understand.

and you can knock the baiting and flaming off, too.. We all know what "baka gaijin" means.

Surely baiting/ flaming involves being malicious, or at least attempting to antagonise the other person, when (IMO) it's pretty clear that Korva was joking/ being satirical and didn't really mean what they said at all?

[Purpelia]

A 1kg, metre long, partially sharpened sword is quicker than a shorter, equally weighted sword?

Quite possibly yes. If the weapon is balanced properly than the tip of the blade is going to be faster on the longer weapon simply because you have a longer lever to work with. More importantly though, the rapier is a cut and thrust weapon designer primarily for unarmored civilian combat. And in that context the extra range will matter a lot. And yes, the rapier can cut. It won't be taking limbs off but you do not want to have that thing land on your body whilst swung at full force.

[Aqizithiuda]

Says the guy who uses forward curving swords. They're an affront to man and god and you know it.

no u

A 1kg, metre long, partially sharpened sword is quicker than a shorter, equally weighted sword?

Reach is one of the biggest factors in deciding a fight with thrusting swords. If yours is longer, you will most likely hit first. The weight is also distributed over a larger area so a rapier has much better handling than most, if not all other thrusting swords.

You have more control over a short blade, and the tip should develop less momentum, leading to faster changes in direction.

A 1kg, metre long, partially sharpened sword is quicker than a shorter, equally weighted sword?

Quite possibly yes. If the weapon is balanced properly than the tip of the blade is going to be faster on the longer weapon simply because you have a longer lever to work with. More importantly though, the rapier is a cut and thrust weapon designer primarily for unarmored civilian combat. And in that context the extra range will matter a lot.

Reach helps, true, but so does speed.

[Black Hand]

Does anyone here (mainly aqui) have any significant information on the LSAT CTA ammunition. I want to do a little research into how hard it would be to convert the M16 (or K2) over to the same cartridge. mainly for shits and giggles but figure adopting the LSAT removes ammunition commonality with the M16/M4 (and unlike the M240 or MK48 doesn't provide the added benefits of a 7.62X51 cartridge.)

additionally would it at all make sense to convert existing weapons to CTA (same projectile ) or would I be better off simply replacing them?

@arch super light ammo
great deity, how much ammo do you fucking need? figure 5 kilos (including polymer mags) should give you about 1500 rounds that is fucking bonkers. I think Arch might have finally made me buy into the micro caliber idea.

[Purpelia]

You have more control over a short blade, and the tip should develop less momentum, leading to faster changes in direction.

That depends not just on the length of the lever but the distribution of weight along it. If your sword is very long but the center of balance is close to the hilt you should still get quicker motions out of it than out of a shorter blade that has most of the weight near the tip (like say on a machete).

Reach helps, true, but so does speed.

I am not so sure. At least not in the context the rapier was designed for. Remember, it was not built to penetrate armor or anything like that. It was made to slice up someone in a shirt. So I imagine that it would be exceedingly difficult for such an opponent to close in on a rapier user. After all, the rapier user only has to keep attacking whilst taking steps back whilst the man with a shorter blade has to keep trying to dodge or deflect his attacks and close in at the same time.

[Zeinbrad]

I knew the katana would be discussed here eventually. Shit.

Bottom line is it served it's purpose as a mediocre weapon in a period of relative peace. Now now more posts about it, satirical or otherwise, you damned commies.

To quote a guy from memory on P2TM.

"Katana's are a silly weapon made for a silly time by silly people"

Something along that line.

Personally I prefer Chinese/Greek/Indian swords.

[Fordorsia]

I knew the katana would be discussed here eventually. Shit.

Bottom line is it served it's purpose as a mediocre weapon in a period of relative peace. Now now more posts about it, satirical or otherwise, you damned commies.

To quote a guy from memory on P2TM.

"Katana's are a silly weapon made for a silly time by silly people"

Something along that line.

Personally I prefer Chinese/Greek/Indian swords.

The katana isn't silly. The myths that surround it are.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

Does anyone here (mainly aqui) have any significant information on the LSAT CTA ammunition. I want to do a little research into how hard it would be to convert the M16 (or K2) over to the same cartridge. mainly for shits and giggles but figure adopting the LSAT removes ammunition commonality with the M16/M4 (and unlike the M240 or MK48 doesn't provide the added benefits of a 7.62X51 cartridge.)

additionally would it at all make sense to convert existing weapons to CTA (same projectile ) or would I be better off simply replacing them?

@arch super light ammo
great deity, how much ammo do you fucking need? figure 5 kilos (including polymer mags) should give you about 1500 rounds that is fucking bonkers. I think Arch might have finally made me buy into the micro caliber idea.

(all IMO):
It's going to be extremely difficult to convert a weapon which pulls the empty case backwards out of the chamber to use ammunition which is too fragile to be extracted in such a way.
For the amount of time, effort and money required to modify the M-16 platform that much, you might as well develop a new weapon, (especially since designing a new system from the ground-up allows you to remove any of the problems inherent to the original platform).

[Zeinbrad]

To quote a guy from memory on P2TM.

"Katana's are a silly weapon made for a silly time by silly people"

Something along that line.

Personally I prefer Chinese/Greek/Indian swords.

The katana isn't silly. The myths that surround it are.

All that I know about the Katana comes from a Managa and a show that is probably bullshit.

According to them, the Katana is able to..penetrate European armor of the time. I forget.

[San-Silvacian]

Most people don't know as much about swords as I do.

In that case here is a tough one for you. And for everyone while we are at it.
In Purpelia private firearms ownership is as you know illegal in most cases. However mele weapons of any kind are allowed and relatively loosely regulated. So anyone can carry a sword, axe or hell a halberd out in the street for the purpose of self defense and legally use it.

So in that context how do you imagine the development of mele weapons would proceed? What kind of things would the average Purpelian citizen hope to find in his local self defense store?

"wow don't own a gun or we will kill you b/c commies r bestest but yes own massive fucking knives and stab people with them"

[Purpelia]

All that I know about the Katana comes from a Managa and a show that is probably bullshit.

According to them, the Katana is able to..penetrate European armor of the time. I forget.

Fun fact. No bladed weapon made of steel is ever going to be able to cut through armor made of steel. It's just not possible. The kind of cuts we see in movies where the guy just cleaves an armored knight across the chest and the guy falls dead are idiotic at best.

"wow don't own a gun or we will kill you b/c commies r bestest but yes own massive fucking knives and stab people with them"

Actually the reason for the ban is the notion that there is no need for civilians to own firearms. If you live next to a forest you can get one. And if you want to go hunting or shoot for sports you can go to a government owned club and rent one out. Keeps the playing field fair too. Especially in sports hunting. But ultimately when it comes to that you can't win a revolution by bringing a sword to a gun fight. So the government has wisely chosen to control the supply of guns. Remember, Purpelia does not subscribe to western style faking. If the government wants to do something they do it. They do not make up stupid pretend reasons to get the public on their side.
Also, anyone living within a certain distance from the border has the same gun ownership rights as people living right on the edge of the darkest most dangerous forests. After all, those foreigners are just as scary as the lions, tigers and bears.

[Fordorsia]

All that I know about the Katana comes from a Managa and a show that is probably bullshit.

According to them, the Katana is able to..penetrate European armor of the time. I forget.

Fun fact. No bladed weapon made of steel is ever going to be able to cut through armor made of steel. It's just not possible. The kind of cuts we see in movies where the guy just cleaves an armored knight across the chest and the guy falls dead are idiotic at best.

My only problem with Sharpe is the unacceptable amount of deaths from half assed cuts across cuirasses.