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Who's going to OP IDT VI?

Archangel Conglomerate
4
3%
Spreewerke
8
6%
Kouralia
5
4%
Puzikas
5
4%
Sevvania
6
4%
Nirvash
3
2%
Nua Corda
50
35%
Imperializt Russia/Samozaryadnistan
12
9%
Padnak
48
34%
 
Total votes : 141

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:45 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Rapiers are widely accepted as the best swords for one on one combat.



That is a weak answer. What is your proof?


Proof of what, the opinions of historians and fencers?

Purpelia wrote:Spadroons?


Basically any one handed sword that can thrust very well is a great weapon for a civilian to carry.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:46 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:They're extremely light and quick. In the hands of a trained duelist one would be absolutely deadly. Step, feint, thrust.



You mean the sport of nobles? As-in, fencing, done by people who never saw the battlefield, and lived in extravagance, wherein creating such fanciful blade concepts purely as a way of showing their economic and cultural arrogance? Thank you, but no.

Your ignorance is amusing.
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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:46 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Eisarn-Ara wrote:

You mean the sport of nobles? As-in, fencing, done by people who never saw the battlefield, and lived in extravagance, wherein creating such fanciful blade concepts purely as a way of showing their economic and cultural arrogance? Thank you, but no.

Your ignorance is amusing.



And your love of fanciful, useless things is entertaining.
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:47 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Your ignorance is amusing.



And your love of fanciful, useless things is entertaining.

This might interest you...
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:48 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:They're extremely light and quick. In the hands of a trained duelist one would be absolutely deadly. Step, feint, thrust.



You mean the sport of nobles? As-in, fencing, done by people who never saw the battlefield, and lived in extravagance, wherein creating such fanciful blade concepts purely as a way of showing off their economic and cultural arrogance? Thank you, but no.


Who said anything about battle? And many nobles who were proficient in fencing almost certainly saw battle.

Rapiers were generally not battlefield weapons. What we're talking about are weapons good for a civilian to carry, which means weapons good for one on one combat, which the rapier absolutely is the best at.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:55 pm

Anyway purp, some things for you to check out would be the swiss sabre, the espada ropera, the langes messer, anything basket hilted, anything continental Europe really. Just don't use a poopy kopis.
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New Celisia
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Postby New Celisia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:56 pm

This is the Celisian Assault Rifle Model 11 [CAR-11], which is the primary assault weapon utilized by the Celisian Fleet Strike (Marine Equivalent).
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:58 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Anyway purp, some things for you to check out would be the swiss sabre, the espada ropera, the langes messer, anything basket hilted, anything continental Europe really. Just don't use a poopy kopis.

Oh yea. I forgot about those. I love the Swiss saber. Although mostly because it's Swiss. I do not know if you can tell but I have a liking to anything Swiss by default.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:00 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Anyway purp, some things for you to check out would be the swiss sabre, the espada ropera, the langes messer, anything basket hilted, anything continental Europe really. Just don't use a poopy kopis.

Oh yea. I forgot about those. I love the Swiss saber. Although mostly because it's Swiss. I do not know if you can tell but I have a liking to anything Swiss by default.



Is it because you come from Switzerland, Austria or Lichtenstein? If that be the case, I fully understand the favoritism, the Swiss have made fantastic ordinance over the years.
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Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:01 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Anyway purp, some things for you to check out would be the swiss sabre, the espada ropera, the langes messer, anything basket hilted, anything continental Europe really. Just don't use a poopy kopis.

Oh yea. I forgot about those. I love the Swiss saber. Although mostly because it's Swiss. I do not know if you can tell but I have a liking to anything Swiss by default.


are you sure?
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*Foaming at the mouth intensifies*

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:02 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Oh yea. I forgot about those. I love the Swiss saber. Although mostly because it's Swiss. I do not know if you can tell but I have a liking to anything Swiss by default.



Is it because you come from Switzerland, Austria or Lichtenstein?


No it's because the Swiss are really good at making things.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:02 pm

The balkens wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Oh yea. I forgot about those. I love the Swiss saber. Although mostly because it's Swiss. I do not know if you can tell but I have a liking to anything Swiss by default.


are you sure?
Image


*Foaming at the mouth intensifies*

Now that thing is just cute.

Fordorsia wrote:
Eisarn-Ara wrote:

Is it because you come from Switzerland, Austria or Lichtenstein?


No it's because the Swiss are really good at making things.

Could not have said it better my self.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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New Celisia
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Postby New Celisia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:03 pm

The balkens wrote:are you sure?


*Foaming at the mouth intensifies*


Do want. o.o


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DISLIKES: Wage Slavery, Totalitarianism, Nazism, Fascism, Communism, True Capitalism, Feminism, Abortion, Trump, Clintons, US Government, the State of Israel.

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The balkens
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Postby The balkens » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:10 pm

New Celisia wrote:
The balkens wrote:are you sure?


*Foaming at the mouth intensifies*


Do want. o.o


I think it has the title of being one of the worse weapons ever made, its designer attempted to use the Toggle lock action. the guy REALLY was a huge fan of it.

I wouldnt even use this if i had a bottle full of Jägermeister in me and there were a bunch of equally drunk Italians came at me, id use the damn thing as club instead.
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New Celisia
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Postby New Celisia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:13 pm

The balkens wrote:
New Celisia wrote:
Do want. o.o


I think it has the title of being one of the worse weapons ever made, its designer attempted to use the Toggle lock action. the guy REALLY was a huge fan of it.

I wouldnt even use this if i had a bottle full of Jägermeister in me and there were a bunch of equally drunk Italians came at me, id use the damn thing as club instead.


Oh I wouldn't use it to fight a war with gent. Lol I just think it would be a cool collectors item. To shoot and examine.


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DISLIKES: Wage Slavery, Totalitarianism, Nazism, Fascism, Communism, True Capitalism, Feminism, Abortion, Trump, Clintons, US Government, the State of Israel.

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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:17 pm

Random question time. Could I make a toggle delayed (not toggle locked but delayed, as in the thing does not lock on a closed chamber. The toggle just acts to delay the opening a bit) weapon that when firing on full auto would tend to act as a strait blowback to disastrous effects? Or just generally perform disastrously. Ideally killing or maiming the user or at least falling apart.

The round used would be a bad attempt at an intermediate with a heavy rifle like bullet fired from a small case.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:20 pm

Purpelia wrote:Random question time. Could I make a toggle delayed (not toggle locked but delayed, as in the thing does not lock on a closed chamber. The toggle just acts to delay the opening a bit) weapon that when firing on full auto would tend to act as a strait blowback to disastrous effects? Or just generally perform disastrously. Ideally killing or maiming the user or at least falling apart.


Isn't the whole thing about "locking" false because the whatever design the bolt is (toggle, rotating, roller), it doesn't actually lock the bolt? I was under the impression that all those bolt designs are delay mechanisms.
Pro: Swords
Anti: Guns

San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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New Celisia
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Postby New Celisia » Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:24 pm

Would you guys mind giving this a look-see and perhaps giving me some constructive Crit?
Celisian Assault Rifle Model 11 [CAR-11]


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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:43 pm

Immoren wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:I feel kind of bad, because I don't understand a squick of this sword stuff. I really need to learn something other than firearms.


Rule 1) "Sword X vs Sword Y" is dumb and pointless debate if those two swords are meant for different fighting styles.



It's also pointless because it's obvious that a katana is literally the best weapon in the history of ever.

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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:55 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Rule 1) "Sword X vs Sword Y" is dumb and pointless debate if those two swords are meant for different fighting styles.



It's also pointless because it's obvious that a katana is literally the best weapon in the history of ever.




Your a funny man, the Nips haven't done anything well and truly "right" since the Russo-Japanese war.
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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Korva
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Postby Korva » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:56 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

It's also pointless because it's obvious that a katana is literally the best weapon in the history of ever.




Your a funny man, the Nips haven't done anything well and truly "right" since the Russo-Japanese war.

Yea except katanas are made of meteorite steel and are folded over 1000 times according to the ancient traditions of the Bushido code. A properly crafted katana could cut through a M1 Abrahams.

Not that I'd expect a baka gaijin like you to understand.

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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:57 pm

Korva wrote:
Eisarn-Ara wrote:


Your a funny man, the Nips haven't done anything well and truly "right" since the Russo-Japanese war.

Yea except katanas are made of meteorite steel and are folded over 1000 times according to the ancient traditions of the Bushido code. A properly crafted katana could cut through a M1 Abrahams.

Not that I'd expect a baka gaijin like you to understand.



Not that I'd expect a nip-lover to understand that true military victory doesn't involve a six-mile-high butchers bill. Or that most "animu" characters look rather european.
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Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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Nirvash Type TheEND
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:59 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

It's also pointless because it's obvious that a katana is literally the best weapon in the history of ever.




Your a funny man, the Nips haven't done anything well and truly "right" since the Russo-Japanese war.

Good thing the katana predates the R/J war by several hundred years.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:00 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Korva wrote:Yea except katanas are made of meteorite steel and are folded over 1000 times according to the ancient traditions of the Bushido code. A properly crafted katana could cut through a M1 Abrahams.

Not that I'd expect a baka gaijin like you to understand.



Not that I'd expect a nip-lover to understand that true military victory doesn't involve a six-mile-high butchers bill.


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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:01 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Eisarn-Ara wrote:


Your a funny man, the Nips haven't done anything well and truly "right" since the Russo-Japanese war.

Good thing the katana predates the R/J war by several hundred years.



Aw, a man who likes weapons that require obscene levels of polishing in order to actually be of any use. It's like the nips had a silly-side, decided to make something as willy-nilly silly as a foil.
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

Blacksmith/Metallurgist btw(Mostly Blades) & Academic Reconstructionist Heathen of the Continental Variety, Legitimate Sneering Western Imperialist, Western Classicalist

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