NS Military Realism Mk. 7: NO

[Questers]

It's a dumb question, not only because of the premise, but because there are no parameters for its answer whatsoever.

It's like asking: "How many bricks should I buy for my house?"

[Yukonastan]

While on military sizes, I've got a standing army of 100 000 for a population of 25 000 000. Should I increase my standing military, if so by/to how much?

[Roski]

It's a dumb question, not only because of the premise, but because there are no parameters for its answer whatsoever.

It's like asking: "How many bricks should I buy for my house?"

There are parameters.
Realistic and not so low that I have 1947's weapons.

[Gallia-]

It's not "work".

If you don't enjoy it, don't bother.

It is work, and its easier to cap a population then re-work your entire military structure.

"If you don't enjoy it, don't bother"

No. I asked a question, and didn't ask for criticism. I'm sorry I asked for something specific and not broad.
I would like if someone actually answered my question.

1) You posted in this thread, thereby implicitly asking for criticism. You should stop seeing it as a "bad thing" and give your ideas more thought based on ideas that others contribute.

2) If you don't enjoy sperging on your military to some extent, you probably shouldn't bother working out specifics like that tbh. You won't find it fun, entertaining, etc. which is what NS is supposed to be.

While on military sizes, I've got a standing army of 100 000 for a population of 25 000 000. Should I increase my standing military, if so by/to how much?

Get out [of OTAN] Holland.

[Questers]

It's a dumb question, not only because of the premise, but because there are no parameters for its answer whatsoever.

It's like asking: "How many bricks should I buy for my house?"

There are parameters.
Realistic and not so low that I have 1947's weapons.

They're not parameters.

Also, frankly, it doesn't look like you put very much "work" into it.

"The Army is then split into battalions of 25,000, and squads of 250.
There are 100 squads per Battalion, and there are 20 Battalions.

The remaining 19,750 are military snipers, and part of the Army’s legendary Lighting Brigade
A single battalion has 100 Roskian Liberator tanks, 250 LAVs, and 150 Humvees. Infantry Fighting Vehicles are deployed as needed.
The Roskian Navy has 20 Air Craft Carriers, with 6 of them being on the Roskian Navy’s legendary Thunder Storm Fury, which are carriers with 66inch shells inside the deck of the ships."

[Yukonastan]

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While on military sizes, I've got a standing army of 100 000 for a population of 25 000 000. Should I increase my standing military, if so by/to how much?

Get out [of OTAN] Holland.

Wat if I am :not:Sweden/Finland in terms of area and geography, :not:Netherlands (not Holland, as Holland is a province within the Netherlands) for a bunch of my governing and inspiration, with a bunch of :not:Canada and :not:Switzerland for extra bite. Now wat? I still need to get the fuck out of :not:NATO?

[Ainin]

I have a Nimitz with an Arleigh Burke (that I classify as a CG because why not), four Type 45s, two Type 23s and two Virginia-class submarines, along with supply ship. Is that too big/small for a CVBG and what major flaws are there with this arrangement?

Well I can imagine you'd have to standardise the guns between the RN and USN ships as they are 0.5" different as well as the Aster/Standard missile families. The RN and USN are rather different fish, the RN is a blend of UK, USA and EU tech and armaments

Huh, I had never really thought of that before. Thanks for the insight.

But other than that, is the size of the CVBG reasonable? And do you think that it lacks good ASW capability?

[Licana]

The Army is then split into battalions of 25,000, and squads of 250.

two tier formation organization best organization?

[Gallia-]

*snipped*


Get out [of OTAN] Holland.

Wat if I am :not:Sweden/Finland in terms of area and geography, :not:Netherlands (not Holland, as Holland is a province within the Netherlands) for a bunch of my governing and inspiration, with a bunch of :not:Canada and :not:Switzerland for extra bite. Now wat? I still need to get the fuck out of :not:NATO?

Yes, because you're below the treaty mandated and obligated (although oft ignored and overlooked in favour of economic growth) defence spending of :not:OTAN.

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

Well I can imagine you'd have to standardise the guns between the RN and USN ships as they are 0.5" different as well as the Aster/Standard missile families. The RN and USN are rather different fish, the RN is a blend of UK, USA and EU tech and armaments

Huh, I had never really thought of that before. Thanks for the insight.

But other than that, is the size of the CVBG reasonable? And do you think that it lacks good ASW capability?

If the Type 23s are used correctly, they should fill your ASW capability well, especially if you embark helis with ASW capabilities

Size seems ok, though I'd recommend at least two supply ships most of the times

[Kouralia]

The Army is then split into battalions of 25,000, and squads of 250.

two tier formation organization best organization?

My army am organised into Alpha Units, or A-Teams of four people. Each of them contains one black guy, one Air Force Officer, one person convicted of sexual harassment and some guy stuck in a dead-end colonelcy, destined to never ever get his third pip.

fite me irl 1v1

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Great minds think alike.

I'm already ahead of you. :p

I assume this has no obvious "it's gonna sink" errors? I've been worried about the two shafts getting 11.5 thousand horsepowers channelled through them, especially since MEKO 200's already does 32 knots with half that power.
In other news, Oale needs to stop blocking my TG's so we can work on a late WWII Tosa-class together. <.< >.>

[Roski]

There are parameters.
Realistic and not so low that I have 1947's weapons.

They're not parameters.

Also, frankly, it doesn't look like you put very much "work" into it.

"The Army is then split into battalions of 25,000, and squads of 250.
There are 100 squads per Battalion, and there are 20 Battalions.

The remaining 19,750 are military snipers, and part of the Army’s legendary Lighting Brigade
A single battalion has 100 Roskian Liberator tanks, 250 LAVs, and 150 Humvees. Infantry Fighting Vehicles are deployed as needed.
The Roskian Navy has 20 Air Craft Carriers, with 6 of them being on the Roskian Navy’s legendary Thunder Storm Fury, which are carriers with 66inch shells inside the deck of the ships."

I have more work that's not in the factbooks.

[Questers]

two tier formation organization best organization?

My army am organised into Alpha Units, or A-Teams of four people. Each of them contains one black guy, one Air Force Officer, one person convicted of sexual harassment and some guy stuck in a dead-end colonelcy, destined to never ever get his third pip.

fite me irl 1v1

My Army is composed principally of my keyboard.

[Ainin]

Huh, I had never really thought of that before. Thanks for the insight.

But other than that, is the size of the CVBG reasonable? And do you think that it lacks good ASW capability?

If the Type 23s are used correctly, they should fill your ASW capability well, especially if you embark helis with ASW capabilities

Size seems ok, though I'd recommend at least two supply ships most of the times

Alright. Thanks!

[Yukonastan]

Wat if I am :not:Sweden/Finland in terms of area and geography, :not:Netherlands (not Holland, as Holland is a province within the Netherlands) for a bunch of my governing and inspiration, with a bunch of :not:Canada and :not:Switzerland for extra bite. Now wat? I still need to get the fuck out of :not:NATO?

Yes, because you're below the treaty mandated and obligated (although oft ignored and overlooked in favour of economic growth) defence spending of :not:OTAN.

:is armed neutral power:
now wat?

[The High Tatras]

Apparently, in 1939, Poland's military had about 1,000,000 troops in it. However, its total population was only about 35,100,000. How is this possible? As far as I know, most countries today have armies that are less than 1% of their total population. Did the lower resource demands of WWII era armies allow them to be larger in proportion to a country's population than they are today?

[Vitaphone Racing]

Apparently, in 1939, Poland's military had about 1,000,000 troops in it. However, its total population was only about 35,100,000. How is this possible? As far as I know, most countries today have armies that are less than 1% of their total population. Did the lower resource demands of WWII era armies allow them to be larger in proportion to a country's population than they are today?

It was 1939, Poland was about to be invaded by possibly two different powers. Poland set out to create the largest military possible in the mid-1930's for defensive purposed. Logistical strains, availability of equipment and adequate training were afterthoughts at the time.

[Oaledonia]

Being an unaligned superpower isnaturally scary :c

[Yukonastan]

My question stands. Is a standing army of 100 000 good for a population of 25 million? Or should the armed forces be larger?

What is the average distribution of personnel to Army, Air, and Sea branches respectively? For a completely average European nation?

[Oaledonia]

My question stands. Is a standing army of 100 000 good for a population of 25 million? Or should the armed forces be larger?

What is the average distribution of personnel to Army, Air, and Sea branches respectively? For a completely average European nation?

Armies like this shouldn't be based on population, it should be based on needs.

What do you need an army for?

[United Marxist Nations]

Old thread done already?

[Yukonastan]

My question stands. Is a standing army of 100 000 good for a population of 25 million? Or should the armed forces be larger?

What is the average distribution of personnel to Army, Air, and Sea branches respectively? For a completely average European nation?

Armies like this shouldn't be based on population, it should be based on needs.

What do you need an army for?

Defensive conscript force, expeditionary volunteer force for disaster aid, intervention in wars not between two major :not:Cold War powers, et cetera.
As for area, location, climate, terrain, et cetera, Sweden and Finland combined.

Old thread done already?

Mhm. So long and thanks for all the fish.

[Vitaphone Racing]

My question stands. Is a standing army of 100 000 good for a population of 25 million? Or should the armed forces be larger?

What is the average distribution of personnel to Army, Air, and Sea branches respectively? For a completely average European nation?

How long is a piece of string?

Really, these are questions which do not have a right answer. There is no wax-on, wax-off with this sort of stuff, it takes deep thought and critical consideration of your make-believe country before you can achieve "realism" in your statistics. Why don't you start by working out where your country fits into the scheme of things in your region and in the globe in general, what your military is most likely going to be involved with over the coming years, sort out some sort of vague doctrine on which you're going to structure your force and finally consider some geography. Then, once you have the complete picture, you'll be able to answer the question yourself because you will know the answer. We don't. I've never been to Yukonastan before and frankly I don't intend to.

[Yukonastan]

My question stands. Is a standing army of 100 000 good for a population of 25 million? Or should the armed forces be larger?

What is the average distribution of personnel to Army, Air, and Sea branches respectively? For a completely average European nation?

How long is a piece of string?

Really, these are questions which do not have a right answer. There is no wax-on, wax-off with this sort of stuff, it takes deep thought and critical consideration of your make-believe country before you can achieve "realism" in your statistics. Why don't you start by working out where your country fits into the scheme of things in your region and in the globe in general, what your military is most likely going to be involved with over the coming years, sort out some sort of vague doctrine on which you're going to structure your force and finally consider some geography. Then, once you have the complete picture, you'll be able to answer the question yourself because you will know the answer. We don't. I've never been to Yukonastan before and frankly I don't intend to.

Have you been to Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, or Canada?

You've been to what Yukonastan will be in a few decades.

But thanks for the advice.