NS Military Realism Mk. 7: NO

[Imperializt Russia]

Because 7km/s?

You're not getting a gun-sized gun to send a shell-sized shell at 7km/s with a light gas gun.
Assuming the tank doesn't explode in the process.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Ok.

Guess you guys do know more.

Alright. Thanks.

[Gallia-]

Then why not use a tank or a *tank destroyer*?

That's the idea. Would it work in a tank destroyer?

Probably, but it wouldn't accomplish anymore than using a conventional gun with LRP would, unless the speed of sound of gunpowder is insufficient for you for some esoteric reason of projectile design.

Because 7km/s?

The most likely reason I can think of wanting such tremendous speed would be if it were an exceptionally long ranged gun.

[The Soodean Imperium]

Maxim of the day:

"Just because it can be weaponized doesn't mean it should."

Carry on.

So...

No? Specialized AT groups should not have a 7km/s gun?

Perhaps unsurprisingly, there are a vast, vast array of effects in the realm of physics and chemistry which can potentially be used to injure a person or destroy an object.

Only a small portion of these effects, however, are suitable candidates for development into a weapon system.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

N00kular jet fl4mthrowah mizzilez

Yeah. In all honesty, I got the idea. It's just sounding more stupid the more I push on.

[Gallia-]

So...

No? Specialized AT groups should not have a 7km/s gun?

Perhaps unsurprisingly, there are a vast, vast array of effects in the realm of physics and chemistry which can potentially be used to injure a person or destroy an object.

Only a small portion of these effects, however, are suitable candidates for development into a weapon system.

Thankfully light gas guns fall under this, and have many practical uses for armed forces, mostly in the realm of artillery.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Perhaps unsurprisingly, there are a vast, vast array of effects in the realm of physics and chemistry which can potentially be used to injure a person or destroy an object.

Only a small portion of these effects, however, are suitable candidates for development into a weapon system.

Thankfully light gas guns fall under this, and have many practical uses for armed forces, mostly in the realm of artillery.

Is this sarcasm?

[Imperializt Russia]

One tuned for 7km/s muzzle velocity with a reasonably-sized projectile for direct-fire applications is not, I assume was the critical thrust of Soode's post.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

One tuned for 7km/s muzzle velocity with a reasonably-sized projectile for direct-fire applications is not, I assume was the critical thrust of Soode's post.

So wait, I CAN make a light gas gun for artillery?

[Gallia-]

Thankfully light gas guns fall under this, and have many practical uses for armed forces, mostly in the realm of artillery.

Is this sarcasm?

The US Army investigated light gas guns for mounting on the M109 howitzer.

The USN considered it for long-range artillery for warships during its OTH Assault phase.

Magnetic guns are riskier and more expensive to develop, but offer greater future potential, which is why they won the battle for ordnance.

[Imperializt Russia]

One tuned for 7km/s muzzle velocity with a reasonably-sized projectile for direct-fire applications is not, I assume was the critical thrust of Soode's post.

So wait, I CAN make a light gas gun for artillery?

You could.
But you probably won't be getting 7km/s out of it.

A light gas gun probably has the same advantage that ETC technology does (I'm unfamiliar with many novel gun technologies) - improving the efficiency of the gun, maximising the burn and smoothing out the pressure curve.
Experimental examples of these guns, with barrels in the range of ~5-40mm calibre and firing very low-mass projectiles for the study of motion in hypervelocity can push 2-7km/s (Mach 5-20, pushing ~75% escape velocity at the upper end of that) are not representative of the military applications of this technology for a gun system that could serve alongside or replace artillery as we know it today.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Alright.

What's a good range of naval radar systems? Not OTH radar like the Longsword, but normal carrier radar, etc.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Alright.

What's a good range of naval radar systems? Not OTH radar like the Longsword, but normal carrier radar, etc.

Ideally you want AEWC aircraft, but 300-400km/ish. Obviously the horizon line is a limit to see low-flying aircraft and missiles, but once again that's what AEWC are for...

[Imperializt Russia]

The radar horizon is a traditional limit.
http://members.home.nl/7seas/radcalc.htm
Depending on the altitude of the incoming (aerial) target and the altitude of the emitting/receiving radar set, this horizon can be near or far, dependent further on the power output and wavelength of the emitting radar.

[The Akasha Colony]

Alright.

What's a good range of naval radar systems? Not OTH radar like the Longsword, but normal carrier radar, etc.

It depends what you're looking for, and your band.

Surface search radar is limited by the horizon, and the clutter at that level tends to require disproportionate amounts of processing power. Distance to the horizon is dependent on how high the radar itself is mounted on the ship.

Air search can easily go several hundred kilometers. Higher bandwidths provide better resolution, while lower ones provide greater range. X-band is popular because it's something of a middle ground, with good accuracy and good range. S-band is also popular as a complement to X-band because it provides improved range without huge decreases in resolution.

[Questers]

imagine doing something dumb like posting about merits of brigadisation vs divisionism

and then topic turns to viability of V2s

why bother?

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

I read somewhere that the Iskander has an EMP platform ability. Now, given this. Could I possibly use it against ships, say, three ships? Could it knock out their communications system?

[Imperializt Russia]

Could you source that claim, please?
Best "EMP ability" it probably has is nuclear tip, unless the Russians have scaled up their RF-EMP warheads from shoulder-fired size to something ludicrous.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

I got it from Wiki, but I didn't see it mentioned much else.

[San-Silvacian]

imagine doing something dumb like posting about merits of brigadisation vs divisionism

and then topic turns to viability of V2s

why bother?

Tbh how do over strengthed brigades sound.

Like 4-5 maneuver regiments, 1-2 artillery regiments, air defenses and organic supply and transportation formations sound?

Be like 6,000 or so strong.

[Immoren]

imagine doing something dumb like posting about merits of brigadisation vs divisionism

and then topic turns to viability of V2s

why bother?

Poor creature.

[Imperializt Russia]

I got it from Wiki, but I didn't see it mentioned much else.

So far as I could see, the alleged EMP capability is listed only in the info pane. The list of possible warhead types there are sourced to both FAS and Missile Threat, neither of whom even speculate on an EMP-effect warhead.

[The Akasha Colony]

imagine doing something dumb like posting about merits of brigadisation vs divisionism

and then topic turns to viability of V2s

why bother?

It did motivate me to go back and take a look at my brigade structure again, and perhaps at some point get back to re-doing my TOE diagrams.

[Immoren]

Bookstrength 7 169 men.

[Imperializt Russia]

What is a "HHB" in the context of artillery? The first suggestion that came to mind would have been "heavy howitzer battalion", but this of course removes the distinction between an identically-structured light and heavy artillery battalion, nor would it be logical to be attached direct to an FO unit.