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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:09 pm

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Victory has arrived
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Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:12 pm

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Victory has arrived

That turret looks fat. It looks like the turret is the same height as the body of the vehicle, not including tracks. Not sure if that is bad and/or unusual, just in this case it looks fat.
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:16 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Victory has arrived

That turret looks fat. It looks like the turret is the same height as the body of the vehicle, not including tracks. Not sure if that is bad and/or unusual, just in this case it looks fat.


Improved, post-diet version :D

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Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:17 pm

Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Victory has arrived

The fuck is that?
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:18 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Victory has arrived

The fuck is that?


The fuck is a tank?
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:19 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:How effective would the M103's gun be against modern tanks if you were to develop single-piece APFSDS ammunition for it?


At that point it would be more of a question of how effective the ammunition would be, not the gun. The gun just fires the munition.

In any event, with its original AP-T ammunition, the 120 mm M58 gun actually had greater muzzle energy than the M256 firing M829A3. Of course, it traveled at a whopping 1,067 m/s but it also weighed 23 kg. The lightened T123E6 variant of the M58 was actually the preferred weapon for the M60 until the 105 mm X15E8 (the British L7) was tested. T123E6 was more powerful, but the L7 had a much greater rate of fire since it didn't require two-piece and had APDS ammunition, so the US selected it instead.
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:20 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Erusuia wrote:(Image)

Victory has arrived

The fuck is that?


The Federal Erusuian Army's primary main battle tank and my first attempt at linearting a tank
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Pharthan wrote:
Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:21 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:The fuck is that?


The fuck is a tank?

I meant what kind of tank is it.
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:23 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
The fuck is a tank?

I meant what kind of tank is it.


Its a UG-92M, OOCly based on the chassis of the T-80, IC'ly a totally local development
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Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:31 pm

Erusuia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:I meant what kind of tank is it.


Its a UG-92M, OOCly based on the chassis of the T-80, IC'ly a totally local development

What about the turret though?
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:32 pm

Looks to me as if it was taken from a M-103 and scaled UP.
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Postby Erusuia » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:34 pm

The turret is something of my own creation, with a little bit of inspiration from the Type-99s turret

It mounts a 125mm gun with a bustle auto loader and that thing on the back is a gear rack/ slat armor
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Pharthan wrote:
Padnak wrote:Are there any crippling disadvantages to blasting ride of the Valkyries out of the helicopters during an air assault against hostile forces that know you're there?

Being too awesome?

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Postby Rich and Corporations » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:11 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:How effective would the M103's gun be against modern tanks if you were to develop single-piece APFSDS ammunition for it?


At that point it would be more of a question of how effective the ammunition would be, not the gun. The gun just fires the munition.

In any event, with its original AP-T ammunition, the 120 mm M58 gun actually had greater muzzle energy than the M256 firing M829A3. Of course, it traveled at a whopping 1,067 m/s but it also weighed 23 kg. The lightened T123E6 variant of the M58 was actually the preferred weapon for the M60 until the 105 mm X15E8 (the British L7) was tested. T123E6 was more powerful, but the L7 had a much greater rate of fire since it didn't require two-piece and had APDS ammunition, so the US selected it instead.

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Postby Roski » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:40 pm

Pros/Cons of having mandatory reserve service for all qualifying men age 18-25?
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:53 pm

Roski wrote:Pros/Cons of having mandatory reserve service for all qualifying men age 18-25?

I know a con is how expensive the program will be if you make every man at age 18 go into some form of basic military training. You generally only do this when your country is surrounded by enemies that could hit you at any moment (Israel) and you can justify it as a means of national defense.

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Postby Roski » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:54 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Roski wrote:Pros/Cons of having mandatory reserve service for all qualifying men age 18-25?

I know a con is how expensive the program will be if you make every man at age 18 go into some form of basic military training. You generally only do this when your country is surrounded by enemies that could hit you at any moment (Israel) and you can justify it as a means of national defense.


How about being under a constant threat of warfare or physically forseeing military conflict within the very immediate future?
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:58 pm

Roski wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:I know a con is how expensive the program will be if you make every man at age 18 go into some form of basic military training. You generally only do this when your country is surrounded by enemies that could hit you at any moment (Israel) and you can justify it as a means of national defense.


How about being under a constant threat of warfare or physically forseeing military conflict within the very immediate future?

-_- I said it in my answer to you.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:02 pm

Roski wrote:Pros/Cons of having mandatory reserve service for all qualifying men age 18-25?


Low quality of troops
Fairly expensive
Your work force may suffer

The French noted a massive increase in how well the quality of troops increased when they moved from conscription to a volunteer military.
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Postby Doppio Giudici » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:04 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Roski wrote:Pros/Cons of having mandatory reserve service for all qualifying men age 18-25?


Low quality of troops
Fairly expensive
Your work force may suffer

The French noted a massive increase in how well the quality of troops increased when they moved from conscription to a volunteer military.


Didn't pre-WW1 France have the best trained army in the world, with the worst rifles and the worst officer corps? I recall that when the war happened, the French people had a 50/50 chance of having 2 years of experience in training.
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Postby Questers » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:13 pm

Erusuia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:That turret looks fat. It looks like the turret is the same height as the body of the vehicle, not including tracks. Not sure if that is bad and/or unusual, just in this case it looks fat.


Improved, post-diet version :D

Image
The shape of the turret leaves a lot to be desired. Also the cupola is WAY too far forwards.

also too many black shade lines on the bottom of the bustle and no really visible optics. But it is better than what most people post first time.
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Postby Roski » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:19 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Roski wrote:Pros/Cons of having mandatory reserve service for all qualifying men age 18-25?


Low quality of troops
Fairly expensive
Your work force may suffer

The French noted a massive increase in how well the quality of troops increased when they moved from conscription to a volunteer military.


WOmen are more than capable of work...
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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:22 pm

Roski wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
Low quality of troops
Fairly expensive
Your work force may suffer

The French noted a massive increase in how well the quality of troops increased when they moved from conscription to a volunteer military.


WOmen are more than capable of work...

Not exactly. Women who are in jobs already will be either a) forced or b) strongly "encouraged" to take over jobs that were forcibly abandoned by the masculine population.

Either way, your economic will decline because the females are forced out of possibly-necessary jobs.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:27 pm

Roski wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
Low quality of troops
Fairly expensive
Your work force may suffer

The French noted a massive increase in how well the quality of troops increased when they moved from conscription to a volunteer military.


WOmen are more than capable of work...


They need to get into the normal civilian work force more than men since you are forcing your males into service.
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Postby Questers » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:30 pm

The Kievan People wrote:The supply of bowmen was not something the state could really control at the time. The number of archers available for war depended on the number kicking around in the kingdom at the time or selling their services as mercenaries.

Nearly anyone could fire a crossbow with some training though, it was a real mass weapon.
The English Longbow (or should I say Welsh...) was a mass weapon in some periods as the English crown did attempt to force every able bodied man to try to train with the longbow. Im not sure that it was effective, but the image is at least lasting.
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