NS Military Realism Mk. 7: NO

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Righto. I still don't think individual NS-user's graphics are in the free use category.
But go on. Now that you've annihilated your factbooks tells us about your armed forces.

[Puzikas]

How long is a piece of string?

This question doesn't have enough information to give more than an arbitrary answer.


Except Non-Nuclear EMP devices exist today, and aren't even particularly difficult to make or deploy.

Someone already answered it.

Its too bad they answered it wrong though

[Padnak]

Rping for the sake of "beating" someone is stupid and immature. Rping should be to create an interesting story in which all parties involved can enjoy

[Zerinfriom]

Well
We are very familiar with snow environments as our nations is basically Scandinavia. With some former colonial areas across the middle east india, and east africa that is now known as the Outer Territories

Our largest land border in our "Heartland" is with Roski Witch we have lined a lot of men on.

My extremely nerfed military after seeing that I was out of this world noobing it up

Is on high alert

So a total of 15 million total men are now prepped

It is quite fair as I am about the same size as Roski *As I am a continuation*

and he has 16 Million

I am trying my best too work up a strategy but he is extremely nuke happy, and apparently wants to release chemical weapons on my troops.

Witch I don't see how he thinks he is being smart because My troops are extremely well supplied, and have gas masks that can be activated on their helmets.

And My Nuclear Defeance system is very strong.

[Zerinfriom]

Rping for the sake of "beating" someone is stupid and immature. Rping should be to create an interesting story in which all parties involved can enjoy

Thank you Padnak

[Padnak]

I was aiming the immature and stupid part of that at you

[Spirit of Hope]

I figured.

Well, what's the farthest realistic distance for a sniper to hit (Modern Tech)? Also, I already know the answer, but I'm just throwing this in here for fun. Are the wings Sam Wilson wore in Captain America: The Winter Soldier realistic?

http://www.gizmag.com/darpa-sniper-bull ... ath/32952/

A guided sniper bullet being made by DARPA, designed to be guided to targets up to 2km away

DARPA is notably a long term study group in most things, so while they have it under testing doesn't really mean a guided bullet is all that feasible. Plus guided bullets aren't a huge advantage, though they due have some uses for long range sniping.

Realistic? Yes.
Modern Tech Realistic? No.

That's quite well PMT, FT by some definitions.

I figured.

Well, what's the farthest realistic distance for a sniper to hit (Modern Tech)? Also, I already know the answer, but I'm just throwing this in here for fun. Are the wings Sam Wilson wore in Captain America: The Winter Soldier realistic?

What weapon are they using? If your talking high end snipers: Longest Range Confirmed Kill is 2,475 meters. But most super long range shots are almost as much luck as accuracy and happen under special environments. So a good sniper will probably be getting consistent hits at 1000 meters against a stationary target, but at those ranges their is a delay, so moving targets are harder to hit.

Is his suit possible? No, but there are some very realistic suits that get close. A good wingsuit and some altitude can take you like 150-200 km, and their are designs that incorporate a jet pack, but those aren't as well developed or useful.

[Zerinfriom]

I was aiming the immature and stupid part of that at you

I'm not the one that started it just too beat someone up

He is the one that is using that excuse.

Padnak please be respectful

[The Akasha Colony]

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

I thought I recognized Zerinfriom from somewhere.

Four anchors. Of all the things to needlessly duplicate...

I figured.

Well, what's the farthest realistic distance for a sniper to hit (Modern Tech)? Also, I already know the answer, but I'm just throwing this in here for fun. Are the wings Sam Wilson wore in Captain America: The Winter Soldier realistic?

Shots have been made to nearly 2.5 kilometers, but these are very rare. A kilometer is a more practical limit in most cases, but it will vary heavily based on the shooter's skill, his weapon, the weather, ammunition quality, etc.

And no, they aren't realistic.

Fpr starters you might want to ask for permission to use other people's hard work. <.< >.>

It is fine I deleted those fact books after seeing your "ego boosting" comments I am totally not hurt right now.

But more about how too Defeat Roski,

and less about the past

We're not going to tell you how to fight an entire war.

[Zerinfriom]

I thought I recognized Zerinfriom from somewhere.

Four anchors. Of all the things to needlessly duplicate...

I figured.

Well, what's the farthest realistic distance for a sniper to hit (Modern Tech)? Also, I already know the answer, but I'm just throwing this in here for fun. Are the wings Sam Wilson wore in Captain America: The Winter Soldier realistic?

Shots have been made to nearly 2.5 kilometers, but these are very rare. A kilometer is a more practical limit in most cases, but it will vary heavily based on the shooter's skill, his weapon, the weather, ammunition quality, etc.

And no, they aren't realistic.

It is fine I deleted those fact books after seeing your "ego boosting" comments I am totally not hurt right now.

But more about how too Defeat Roski,

and less about the past

We're not going to tell you how to fight an entire war.

Just the opening stages is all that I ask.

If you won't answer that please point me too a thread that will tell me what is the best options.

My question technically fits, as I want to know how to realisticly defeat him

[The Akasha Colony]

Just the opening stages is all that I ask.

If you won't answer that please point me too a thread that will tell me what is the best options.

My question technically fits, as I want to know how to realisticly defeat him

It is simply too broad a question. You are asking "How do I fight a war?" and humans have been trying to figure that out for millennia. We can give you answers on whether not a specific thing is realistic, but if you want to know how to fight a war, find a book or ten or a hundred. Especially when the war you want to fight is against another player who posts in this thread and can thus see everything we say.

[Zerinfriom]

Just the opening stages is all that I ask.

If you won't answer that please point me too a thread that will tell me what is the best options.

My question technically fits, as I want to know how to realisticly defeat him

It is simply too broad a question. You are asking "How do I fight a war?" and humans have been trying to figure that out for millennia. We can give you answers on whether not a specific thing is realistic, but if you want to know how to fight a war, find a book or ten or a hundred. Especially when the war you want to fight is against another player who posts in this thread and can thus see everything we say.

Alright

[Aelarus]

Excuse me what would be the best military tactics for a massive Post Modern Tech conflict on my part.

Essentially I want ways to defeat Roski using only half of my military power.

Without God Modding of course

So you wish to beat someone of equal military power with only half your forces? That's more than a little bit optimistic if he uses all of his forces unless you're simply defending.

That's not an easy question to answer, but a good rule of thumb is to not lose air superiority. Ever.

Oh and no offense, but those factbooks were hilarious.

[Zerinfriom]

Excuse me what would be the best military tactics for a massive Post Modern Tech conflict on my part.

Essentially I want ways to defeat Roski using only half of my military power.

Without God Modding of course

So you wish to beat someone of equal military power with only half your forces? That's more than a little bit optimistic if he uses all of his forces unless you're simply defending.

That's not an easy question to answer, but a good rule of thumb is to not lose air superiority. Ever.

Oh and no offense, but those factbooks were hilarious.

I've decided against using half as that is suicide.

Yeah It's okay I realized that they were completely stupid.

[Rich and Corporations]

So you wish to beat someone of equal military power with only half your forces?

It's possible, but only with surprise and force concentration.

This is one of the stupid debates I've ever seen.

Ever.

And thats saying something.

I feel inadequate.

DARPA is notably a long term study group in most things, so while they have it under testing doesn't really mean a guided bullet is all that feasible. Plus guided bullets aren't a huge advantage, though they due have some uses for long range sniping.

Guided light anti-armor rockets are probably a better innovation, for anti-material and anti-personnel roles.

[Roski]

Excuse me what would be the best military tactics for a massive Post Modern Tech conflict on my part.

Essentially I want ways to defeat Roski using only half of my military power.

Without God Modding of course

So you wish to beat someone of equalslightly higher military power with only half your forces? That's more than a little bit optimistic if he uses all of his forces unless you're simply defending.

That's not an easy question to answer, but a good rule of thumb is to not lose air superiority. Ever.

Oh and no offense, but those factbooks were hilarious.

Not lose air superiority? Oh. Well, that's like Military 101 there.

[Roski]

So you wish to beat someone of equal military power with only half your forces?

It's possible, but only with surprise and force concentration.

This is one of the stupid debates I've ever seen.

Ever.

And thats saying something.

I feel inadequate.

DARPA is notably a long term study group in most things, so while they have it under testing doesn't really mean a guided bullet is all that feasible. Plus guided bullets aren't a huge advantage, though they due have some uses for long range sniping.

Guided light anti-armor rockets are probably a better innovation, for anti-material and anti-personnel roles.

Yassss

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

This is from your sig now.

15,000 Infantry Men
5,000 Riflemen
50 Main Battle Tanks
10 Light Tanks
15 Tank Destroyers
5 Self Propelled Guns

Are those men unmotorized? Why do you have a division of foot infantry but only one regiment worth of armoured vehicles and a half battery of artillery? Modern divisions would expect at least 32-48 155 mm guns.

[Puzikas]

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Well, what's the farthest realistic distance for a sniper to hit (Modern Tech)?

Longest confirmed kill in history is 2,475 meters with a Accuracy International AWM chambered in .338 magnum, fitted with a MKII 5-25x56 scope in some near ideal conditions. Shooter was using Lapua made .338 ammunition weighing 250 grains with a G7 ballistic coefficient of .310 and a muzzle velocity of in the area of 936 meters per second. At this distance the bullet took about 6.5 seconds of flight and had dropped 120.9 meters/396.65 feet (adjusted for atmospheric conditions) This is well outside the actual use of a standard military sniper. Just because this happened doesnt mean it can be replicated. In fact, it was attempted many times and it was failed pretty much every one of those.

As somewhat of an amateur balistician and long range shooter, I can say that this shot is absolutely well outside of the scope of all but a handful of shooters on the planet.

A standard sniper should be able to effectively engage and eliminate targets to a distance of 1000 meters. Realistically this is the most distance a sniper would shoot, average being in the area of 4-800 meters.

[Padnak]

I feel, despite Puzikas absolute best efforts, that the level of abject stupidity currently occupying the thread has reached new levels

[Zerinfriom]

This is from your sig now.

15,000 Infantry Men
5,000 Riflemen
50 Main Battle Tanks
10 Light Tanks
15 Tank Destroyers
5 Self Propelled Guns

Are those men unmotorized? Why do you have a division of foot infantry but only one regiment worth of armoured vehicles and a half battery of artillery? Modern divisions would expect at least 32-48 155 mm guns.

While thinking realistically I became unrealistic -.-, that is the apparent story of that signature.

[Mitheldalond]

Its begging for a good boghammering is what its begging for

Speaking of boghammers, would a Rudderow-class destroyer escort make an effective anti-boghammer ship? It seems to me that a pair of 5" guns, four 40mm guns, and ten 20mm guns would do a pretty good job of shredding swarms of speed boats.

I'm working on a concept for an MT military that uses outdated/obsolete equipment because [insert reasons here], and one of my ideas was to use the Rudderows as basically a littoral combat ship. For the purposes of this scenario, assume either that the ships have been kept in serviceable condition, or that they are newly built to the same design as the originals. (Essentially, ignore the fact that the ships are ancient, and would probably have be having structural integrity problems under normal circumstances.)

[Roski]

Hay.

How quickly, realistically, could a member of a military, who has just been hit by a massive surprise attacks filled with chemicals, put on chemical gear, assuming that they recognize immediately after the detonation that the weapon is infact a chemical weapon?

[Zerinfriom]

Hay.

How quickly, realistically, could a member of a military, who has just been hit by a massive surprise attacks filled with chemicals, put on chemical gear, assuming that they recognize immediately after the detonation that the weapon is infact a chemical weapon?

About 5-10 seconds if the person you launched them against has any logical, and common seance

[Puzikas]

Hay.

How quickly, realistically, could a member of a military, who has just been hit by a massive surprise attacks filled with chemicals, put on chemical gear, assuming that they recognize immediately after the detonation that the weapon is infact a chemical weapon?

Takes about 100 seconds to suit up in MOPP-4 gear.

Which is why IIRC in Gulf War one US Soldiers walked around in a low-preparation MOPP gear (MOPP level 1), so they could cut time down on actually getting into it, since you'd have about 45 seconds from impact to live.

About 5-10 seconds if the person you launched them against has any logical, and common seance

This was a good laugh.