NS Military Realism Mk. 7: NO

by **Oaledonia** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:49 pm

Erusuia wrote:Well there ya go, time to acquire some hellfires and reverse engineer them

Going from that, would it make sense to develop a missile from the Hellfire with more propellant to make up for the fact that its being launched from the ground and will have to cover more distance?

Forget that. I'm sure you and I can make some political deals, we're on the same map after all :3

by **Erusuia** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:19 pm

Is the HJ-8 any good? Just looking through the various ATGMs and it seems interesting in that I've never seen anyone on NS use it before

by **Erusuia** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:19 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Erusuia wrote:Well there ya go, time to acquire some hellfires and reverse engineer them

Going from that, would it make sense to develop a missile from the Hellfire with more propellant to make up for the fact that its being launched from the ground and will have to cover more distance?

Forget that. I'm sure you and I can make some political deals, we're on the same map after all :3

But I don't want to pay any licensing fees!

Reverse engineered clones are best

by **Roski** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:40 pm

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

by **Auroya** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:43 pm

Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

Isn't one of those Anemos's art? I wonder if he got permission to use it.

by **Licana** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:44 pm

Probably not very much.

The various people he jacked the artwork from will prob care a bit more than you, though.

by **Heicliffe** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:47 pm

Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

A kilometer long ship is just begging to be nuke food. There's no way a nuclear missile would cost less than one of those things.

by **The Akasha Colony** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:47 pm

Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

What about it? It's all stolen lineart. Even then, any useful stats are sparse at best. The ship list is literally just a bunch of names with no useful information at all.

by **Padnak** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:47 pm

Its begging for a good boghammering is what its begging for

by **Allanea** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:47 pm

And Freethinkers' Doujin BB is also on there.

by **Roski** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:50 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

What about it? It's all stolen lineart. Even then, any useful stats are sparse at best. The ship list is literally just a bunch of names with no useful information at all.

Oh.

So basically, he will have to come up on the spot with poor design choices.
Amazing. This war will of easy.

by **The Akasha Colony** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:52 pm

Roski wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
What about it? It's all stolen lineart. Even then, any useful stats are sparse at best. The ship list is literally just a bunch of names with no useful information at all.

Oh.

So basically, he will have to come up on the spot with poor design choices.
Amazing. This war will of easy.

The fact that he has more carrier classes than the real world has carriers should say something.

by **The Corparation** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:52 pm

Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

For the ships, Not at all. It's just a bunch of stolen art with half-assed shitty stat blocks that don't match at all. As an aside, holy shit he's using one of my crappy crappy crappy drawings. AS in a drawing I don't even think I posted on NS itself because I didn't like the way it was going.
Tanks are presumably the same.

by **Padnak** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:53 pm

I would love to donate a few HOGs to you to test as anti ship weapons...

Heres a question, wouldn't ludicrously huge ships like those never be able to get close enough to the shore to bombard things without running the risk of grounding themselves?

by **Roski** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:54 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Roski wrote:
Oh.

So basically, he will have to come up on the spot with poor design choices.
Amazing. This war will of easy.

The fact that he has more carrier classes than the real world has carriers should say something.

I don't think all of them are active.

The Corparation wrote:
Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

For the ships, Not at all. It's just a bunch of stolen art with half-assed shitty stat blocks that don't match at all. As an aside, holy shit he's using one of my crappy crappy crappy.
Tanks are presumably the same.

He has been talking about how he has a better everything for a couple weeks. I decided that a war would knock him down a few pegs. ALl of this information is very useful. Thank you.

by **The Akasha Colony** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:55 pm

Padnak wrote:I would love to donate a few HOGs to you to test as anti ship weapons...

Heres a question, wouldn't ludicrously huge ships like those never be able to get close enough to the shore to bombard things without running the risk of grounding themselves?

Depends on the ocean depth. In all likelihood they'd probably have the same limitation as a supertanker or bulk ore freighter, and thus similar draft requirements.

by **Aelarus** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:56 pm

Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"

Some of these descriptions are almost sad...

Take the first one, apparently outperforms the Leo and Abrams yet is 55 tons.

Also, he has...38...flat tops...

Notice most are just for looks and not really effectiveness.

by **Auroya** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:57 pm

These stats are actually painful to read through.

by **Roski** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:57 pm

Aelarus wrote:
Roski wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=320747
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=zerinfriom/detail=factbook/id=316794

How much should I care about these "designs"
Some of these descriptions are almost sad...

Take the first one, apparently outperforms the Leo and Abrams yet is 55 tons.

Also, he has...38...flat tops...

Notice most are just for looks and not really effectiveness.

I'm not taking these....

I'm blowing them up.

by **Padnak** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:58 pm

If you really want to fuck him over, you must use the patented Padnaki Get Wreked N00b™ strategy

get a bunch of old Catalina flying boats, load up as many naval mines as you can, drop mines in path of advancing fleet, sink fleet because of a lack of anti mine equipment, throw massive party with lots of Padnaki Heroin

by **Roski** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:00 pm

Padnak wrote:If you really want to fuck him over, you must use the patented Padnaki Get Wreked N00b™ strategy

get a bunch of old Catalina flying boats, load up as many naval mines as you can, drop mines in path of advancing fleet, sink fleet because of a lack of anti mine equipment, throw massive party with lots of Padnaki Heroin

How about nuclear-tipped torpedos, as a First World country?

by **Padnak** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:02 pm

Roski wrote:
Padnak wrote:If you really want to fuck him over, you must use the patented Padnaki Get Wreked N00b™ strategy

get a bunch of old Catalina flying boats, load up as many naval mines as you can, drop mines in path of advancing fleet, sink fleet because of a lack of anti mine equipment, throw massive party with lots of Padnaki Heroin

How about nuclear-tipped torpedos, as a First World country?

*fishing boats loaded with nuclear warheads and set into the middle of the enemy fleet

by **Roski** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:03 pm

Padnak wrote:
Roski wrote:
How about nuclear-tipped torpedos, as a First World country?

*fishing boats loaded with nuclear warheads and set into the middle of the enemy fleet

That's a terrible waste of a nuclear warhead!!!

How dare!

by **Roski** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:10 pm

Roski wrote:
Padnak wrote:
*fishing boats loaded with nuclear warheads and set into the middle of the enemy fleet

That's a terrible waste of a nuclear warhead!!!

How dare!

A better use would be to EMP the fleet, then rain fiery destruction in the form of 14inch cannons.

by **Padnak** » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:13 pm

that would only reinforce that dumbasses idea that guns are good

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