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Valkalan
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Postby Valkalan » Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:24 pm

In the event of severe public disturbances, the Valk military can be called upon to restore order and is authorized to use lethal force.
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Saurisisia
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Postby Saurisisia » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:00 pm

The Saurisian military will indeed intervene in the event of a riot getting beyond the police's capability so the rioters can be contained as soon as possible.
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Kotar (Ancient)
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Postby Kotar (Ancient) » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:21 pm

Of course, we know better than to use the army on animals, we learned that from the Australians.

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Auxburg
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Postby Auxburg » Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:27 pm

The Aurain Paktai doubles as both law enforcement and armed forces, so that should answer your question.

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Gollifray
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Postby Gollifray » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:24 pm

Considering the army IS the people, that'd be hard.
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Socialist Republic of Andrew
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Postby Socialist Republic of Andrew » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:31 pm

We would only enact military law or control over the population only in times of martial law and states of emergency, unless we were fighting a civil war, revolt, or rebellion against the people, in which we will of course, use the military to defend our homeland, government, and still loyal citizens against the rebels.

But other then this, that is really it.

Even though Eternal Emperor Andrew actually has the power and authority to authorize the army to take control or be used against the population, he is against it, unless absolutely necessary.
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Davinhia
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Postby Davinhia » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:16 pm

Davinhia will never use the military UNLESS the rebels threaten a civil war.
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Cagbalete
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Postby Cagbalete » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:18 pm

People = Military, so ........................................ :?:

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Prezelly
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Postby Prezelly » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:19 pm

If enough people were rioting or staging a coup, then yes the military would be sent in to restore peace rather than leave the situation to evolve into chaos
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Postby Numadsh » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:43 pm

Cagbalete wrote:People = Military, so ........................................ :?:


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Postby Gig em Aggies » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:24 pm

Yes we have used the military/police on the people in the Gallium riots/war where an estimated 15,000+ citizens were killed. The act then led to war after the government stated " we did it as a precaution because of the recent Zombie outbreak" that statement is what caused a nation by the abbreviation OH declared war and invaded our nation. But we showed them the door and booted them quite hard.
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Postby Vallermoore » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:28 pm

Yes but only as the last resort, after talking, normal police, riot police, tear gas, rubber bullets, water cannons and police bullets have all failed.

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Postby Adab » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:31 pm

If the situation has spiraled out of control and the police has totally failed to maintain some sense of law and order there, then the government, with personal instructions from His Imperial Majesty the Emperor, will send out the Adab Army as a last resort to establish control over the situation, through (much-regretted) violence if required.
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Postby Tolmakia » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:33 pm

The primary goal of the Tolmakian military Forces is to protect its homeland and its people. It would never be dispatched against the people in almost all situations.
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Hotgrat
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Postby Hotgrat » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:40 pm

While the HAF really doesn't want to intervene with the protesting, they are deployed the second it gets violent, be it crashing down a window into a store and stealing/ruining their stuff or attacking a police officer. If the protestors attack the military, RoE allows use of tazers. However, if the protestors fire a firearm at the military, all protestors that are peaceful are given 1 minute to get out of there. After that, lethal force is authorized against any remaining protestors.
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Postby Righteousistan » Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:46 pm

Those who threaten to unravel the divine order in our country will be dealt with severely. If necessary, that includes deploying the military and authorizing them to fire on the rioters. :bow:

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Postby Luziyca » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:14 am

Yes.
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Ashyaria
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Postby Ashyaria » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:16 am

HOLD UP...
i have an army???
what????
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Tevona
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Postby Tevona » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:44 am

The Army is the people.

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Katalonua
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Postby Katalonua » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:40 pm

The last time we didn't throw the gauntlet at political dissidents among the sheep, the Katalonuan Civil War erupted, the monarchy was overthrown and many, many Katalonuans died.

So, yeah, the present day monarchy is more than willing to blow any upstarts in Katalonuan society away with the Katalonuan military.
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:42 pm

Maybe. Maybe.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:11 pm

In Fatatatutti, the government doesn't control the Army, the people do. The people could theoretically use the Army to overthrow the government.

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Kapilana
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Postby Kapilana » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:20 pm

Recognising that "the people" is a plural noun that, when it is used in political discourse, most often is a particular socio-Marxist construct designed to make palatable an implicit suggestion to irreversibly destroy the status quo (vis a vis "people's revolution"), the government of Kapilana has on many occasions been proactive in the exercise of its prerogative to preserve the integrity of the territories and domains of the State. This has included actual deployments as well as forced maneuvres. These are referred to in our unique concept of the Esoteric Constitution as RAR (Realignment And Readjustment) exercises, and they do not involve the ordinary ranks of the armed forces but only our elite horse regiments, on horseback and armed with Hindustani tulwar sabres in emulation of our great, beloved and glorious Leader. In effect, these elite cavaliers are our close approximation of Roman equine-praetorians or Imperial Russian Cossacks. In the ordinary course of lawful engagement in war with a foreign enemy, they are ground forces equipped with modern weapons: armoured vehicles and artillery, and are supported from the air. However, in domestic operations against insurgents they enjoy their ancient inherited privilege of being light horse crack troops.

To summarise, yes we do use lethal force on domestic hostiles, anarchists and terrorists. However we use it in a particular way in order to preserve our heritage and warrior code as well as to minimise the destruction of public and private property. Furthermore, we do not simply move in on the hostiles and damage them. We annihilate them, and our horsemen typically establish feudal garrisons in such places in order to raise new generations of loyal Kapilanis from the women left surviving there. Our focus is on long-term solutions to sedition.

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Postby Xekliv » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:38 pm

Any who revolt are deemed as traitors and they shall be treated as such.

So yes, if a planet's population revolted against the empire, we would send the legion to kill them all, as they obviously knew what would happen if they left us.
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Postby Republic of South Carolina » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:42 pm

Only the National Guard can used within the Civilian Population on the National Level. Each of the Republic's Defense and Police Forces can used however the Republic wishes; within the scope of their Constitution. A Republic has to formally request the use of the National Guard and the Grand Assembly has to approve the said request.
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