Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Tranche 7

[New Tsavon]

Why do I feel like this whole thing is going to fail horribly

you know like every other MBT collaboration project

hope it doesn't tho-

>implying European Federation Enforcer Corps Panther is a failure

>implying the JSF's M5A2 Schwarzkopf wasn't the best tank in EndWar.

[Fordorsia]

I NEED A GAMING PC

Switching from crap laptop to gaming PC for the first time is the best feeling ever. I've never felt so liberated.

[Imperializt Russia]

My laptop comes nowhere near EE's minimum requirements.

You need Core i7 with 16 GB of RAM because my penis is bigger than yours.

I have a Celeron T3000 process which doesn't run anything.

[Imperializt Russia]

>implying European Federation Enforcer Corps Panther is a failure

>implying the JSF's M5A2 Schwarzkopf wasn't the best tank in EndWar.

It honestly wasn't.
T-100 Ogre bestest fictional non-Bolo tank.

dat clearly-152mm-yet-apparently-not gun.

[Yukonastan]

You need Core i7 with 16 GB of RAM because my penis is bigger than yours.

I have a Celeron T3000 process which doesn't run anything.

i5 laptop dual core that does double duty as my GPU, with 8gb of memory. I just need to see if W:EE runs on OSX.

[Anemos Major]

I have a Celeron T3000 process which doesn't run anything.

i5 laptop dual core that does double duty as my GPU, with 8gb of memory. I just need to see if W:EE runs on OSX.

Erm, let's see...

Only 6GB of RAM, with an i7 Q740 and an Nvidia GTS 360M with 1GB of dedicated VRAM. It's a few years old, though, and it's all in a laptop package - wheezing along dutifully with the best of them.

[Stahn]

And this is your first Sketchup tank? Very impressive.

Yes, it is my first. However, I have been working on it for some time.

My earlier versions (as I just discovered) had the issue of having a main gun that was twice as wide at the bore than it should have been. I really should have found that out earlier, but it took me until last night. Now that I remodeled the main gun and many other parts of the vehicle, I can start going onto the finer details.

Yeah, the basic shape has turned out very well. I think this will turn out to be a very nice tank.
Good luck with it. I am kinda handy with Sketchup. Should you have any questions you would like to ask me, send me a TG.

[Anemos Major]

This is the absolute latest version of the Manticore-IV. What do you guys think?

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=u418d823a-7fd0-46e9-afd3-5a44f8e22f44

I would recommend going to the 3D panning feature in the middle of the interface.

It looks like a tank, which is more than can be said about anything I've tried in 3D. It looks like a good one at that, which is way out of my league.

- The turret seems a bit large on that chassis, however - I think you could do with a slightly flatter turret, or possibly a slightly taller chassis (or a combination of both).
- Gunners thermals probably need to be a little bit bigger.
- No commander's independent sight? Or is that incorporated into the RWS? If it's the little thing in the middle of the turret, it needs to be a fair bit bigger.
- RWS at the back seems to be quite trendy these days - do remember, though, the further it is from the commander's hatch, the harder it is to reload.

Looks really rather good! Will be watching to see how this develops

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

I NEED A GAMING PC

Switching from crap laptop to gaming PC for the first time is the best feeling ever. I've never felt so liberated.

I have a gaming pc. A friend of mine got a lap top from alienware. and to be frank her lap top is better then mine gaming PC...
And I have by no means a weak PC. Only my graphics card is a bit on the weak side I think. NVidia GeForce GTX 650

[Antarticaria]

Switching from crap laptop to gaming PC for the first time is the best feeling ever. I've never felt so liberated.

I have a gaming pc. A friend of mine got a lap top from alienware. and to be frank her lap top is better then mine gaming PC...
And I have by no means a weak PC. Only my graphics card is a bit on the weak side I think. NVidia GeForce GTX 650

Im currently investing in parts, buying my motherboard and HDD tomorrow. I gutted out my old custom gaming pc and going to use the case, wiring, fans, disc drive, sound card, graphics card (as a backup) and its HDD (set to 'slave' to the new one im buying) as well as its two Memory sticks in conjunction with the new one I'm buying. My over costs are divided into a new motherboard, CPU, PSU, Liquid Cool Parts, Graphics Card, Memory Stick, and HDD. Most of the parts and wiring in my old one is very very high end parts so I figured why not, saved myself about 200+ Dollars.

[Macedonian Grand Empire]

I have a gaming pc. A friend of mine got a lap top from alienware. and to be frank her lap top is better then mine gaming PC...
And I have by no means a weak PC. Only my graphics card is a bit on the weak side I think. NVidia GeForce GTX 650

Im currently investing in parts, buying my motherboard and HDD tomorrow. I gutted out my old custom gaming pc and going to use the case, wiring, fans, disc drive, sound card, graphics card (as a backup) and its HDD (set to 'slave' to the new one im buying) as well as its two Memory sticks in conjunction with the new one I'm buying. My over costs are divided into a new motherboard, CPU, PSU, Liquid Cool Parts, Graphics Card, Memory Stick, and HDD. Most of the parts and wiring in my old one is very very high end parts so I figured why not, saved myself about 200+ Dollars.

Mine it is pretty new. I have it for around 6-7 months. As top end as I could get with my set budget.
I am getting a GTX 770 or 770 Ti as soon as I find some time to take my PC for it to be fitted. The GTX 650 is doing a lot of things I did not expect. This one goes in my brothers PC.

[Vancon]

2nd attempt on lineart.

[Anemos Major]

(Image)

2nd attempt on lineart.

Okay, stop, hand on.

Before you start posting tons of stuff like this, take a step back and do these three simple things.

i) Look at real tanks. Find source images, look at the technical attributes, figure out what you need, what certain things look like and so on.
ii) Consider what it is that you want to draw - your influences, your intended role, gun size, turret layout etc. It'll help you come up with a slightly more coherent image at the end.
iii) Draw the thing, and look back at it. Does it look like a real tank, and does it look like what you wanted? If it ticks both of those boxes, you're set to go - but not before.

[Vancon]

(Image)

2nd attempt on lineart.

Okay, stop, hand on.

Before you start posting tons of stuff like this, take a step back and do these three simple things.

i) Look at real tanks. Find source images, look at the technical attributes, figure out what you need, what certain things look like and so on.
ii) Consider what it is that you want to dra w - your influences, your intended role, gun size, turret layout etc. It'll help you come up with a slightly more coherent image at the end.
iii) Draw the thing, and look back at it. Does it look like a real tank, and does it look like what you wanted? If it ticks both of those boxes, you're set to go - but not before.

I did. Inspiration came from the Leopard 2 and Bradly IFV. It was made for urban infantry support with a large gun for destroying buildings. I think it looks like a tank and turned out pretty good for a second attempt.

[Yukonastan]

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2nd attempt on lineart.

Way better than the first time, you're getting there.
However, looking at the tank, your suspension is too short for your chassis. Your side skirts hang down very far, and the drawing still isn't very detailed. Lineart is with pencil tool snapped for straight lines, if you go the pixel route. Shapes are generally reserved for flash or other vector programs, and are harder to use.

[Anemos Major]

I did. Inspiration came from the Leopard 2 and Bradly IFV. It was made for urban infantry support with a large gun for destroying buildings. I think it looks like a tank and turned out pretty good for a second attempt.

For the record, this was my first attempt.



It's not that I have any intrinsic ability or anything - I just spent more time looking into source images and technological aspects, and on the lineart itself. There's no rush - spend more time working on the lineart and developing it, and it'll turn out better. It doesn't have to take ages - but if you spend two or three hours on a single piece, it'll definitely look better than something you whacked up in ten minutes.

I mean, with RB's generous donation of tracks, you don't even have to do the hard bit anymore - so you have no excuse.

[Fordorsia]

I mean, with RB's generous donation of tracks, you don't even have to do the hard bit anymore - so you have no excuse.

Aren't RB's tracks only on Paint? :c

[Anemos Major]

I mean, with RB's generous donation of tracks, you don't even have to do the hard bit anymore - so you have no excuse.

Aren't RB's tracks only on Paint? :c

I do not see the problem here.

:>

[Kouralia]

Aren't RB's tracks only on Paint? :c

I do not see the problem here.

:>

MSP isn't good enough for Aristo-Fordorsia.

You know what your French Revolutionaryness is calling you to do, Anemos! Level the playing field, eliminate classist image manipulation programs, wheel out Madame Guillotine!

[Vancon]

There's my problem. The version of paint that I use doesn't have layers or the ability to really "cut out" the tracks, wheels or guns from that pack thing. Nor do I understand how to make reuseable circles for rivets. Also, how the fuck did you get that paint-job all over your tank?

[Anemos Major]

You know what your French Revolutionaryness is calling you to do, Anemos! Level the playing field, eliminate classist image manipulation programs, wheel out Madame Guillotine!

Revolutions inevitably create a distinction between the 'enlightened' revolutionary leadership and the rest of the people, though.

we can totally go and burn Fordorsia's tanks, though, as long as it doesn't interrupt my six hour lunch break

(almost the 14 Juillet, guys :>)

There's my problem. The version of paint that I use doesn't have layers or the ability to really "cut out" the tracks, wheels or guns from that pack thing. Nor do I understand how to make reuseable circles for rivets. Also, how the fuck did you get that paint-job all over your tank?

Manually. Do up the tank in one colour, shade, apply camo.

[Fordorsia]

Aren't RB's tracks only on Paint? :c

I do not see the problem here.

:>

Touché.

Actually I just remembered that on my most recent set of tracks, the drive sprocket's teeth don't even line up with the track pins.

Just look at how much of a hack fraud I am.

[Yukonastan]

Question to the thread: Convoy markers and vehicle lighting. What do you use for your vehicle lighting and convoy marker lights?

Yukonastan follows the German prototype closely, which means a left side blackout headlight and a Leitkreus on the back of every vehicle to mark it. There are also blackout brake and turn lights, underneath the standard brake and turn lights.

There are four lighting conditions.
0: No visible light whatsoever, not even infrared.
1: Blackout left headlight, and Leitkreus on the back of the vehicle are illuminated. Infrared brake and turn lights are enabled.
2: Same as condition 1, except that blackout brake light and turn light are visible light instead of infrared.
3: Full illumination, including Leitkreuze at night, but locking out all other blackout lights.

As for lighting, all the lights use a 24v bus system and are wired to a control panel, which has a blackout switch on it to choose condition 1 thru 3, and a second blackout switch to choose condition 0, killing the exterior lighting bus.

For the normal lights there are two headlights and two turn lights on the front of the vehicle, two turn lights right over the front roadwheel on top of the armor of tracked vehicles, and in the top rear corner of the front wheel well of wheeled vehicles, to be seen from the side. On the rear there are two brake/turn/backup lights, and on the roof is a flashing orange beacon that can be detached and stored inside the vehicle.

[Vancon]

I completely forgot about lights and lighting.

On a side note, what do people start with when making tanks? I started with the tracks and built my way up.

[The Kievan People]

guys holy shit

The day when Europe exits AFV manufacturing draws ever closer...