Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Tranche 7

[Austrasien]

Any opinion on the T-29 super heavy vs the M-26 Pershing ?

In what context?

[Korva]

Any opinion on the T-29 super heavy vs the M-26 Pershing ?

T-29 is great for stat padding.

[Sahrani South]

As a MT reserve unit, for last ditch-defense and to a small extent training of the reservists.

[Austrasien]

Thats why everyone uses wheeled armored vehicles right, because they are just the worst.

Yes wheeled armored vehicles have some issues.

However unless you have 100000000000 dollars like the US, you can't afford a totally tracked APC force.

Motorcycle infantry or bust.

[Austrasien]

As a MT reserve unit, for last ditch-defense and to a small extent training of the reservists.

Pershing.

The T-29s extra armor and bigger gun are just dead weight against modern opponents.

[Sahrani South]

As a MT reserve unit, for last ditch-defense and to a small extent training of the reservists.

Pershing.

The T-29s extra armor and bigger gun are just dead weight against modern opponents.

Super Pershing it is then, thanks.

[Austrasien]

Just go with the regular Pershing. Lighter.

[Saphirasia]

Pershing.

The T-29s extra armor and bigger gun are just dead weight against modern opponents.

Super Pershing it is then, thanks.

Okay, so basing your NS tanks on World of Tanks is a bad idea. Honestly, the M47 would make for an excellent Class C and training tank, while not being as absurdly obsolescent as the M26. And it would likely be cheaper, since afaik there were never large stocks of Pershings exported. I might be wrong, however.

EDIT: In addition, they can be upgunned with the 105mm L7 and the AVDS-1790-2 diesel from the M60A1, which provides a huge firepower and mobility boost over the basic petrol engine and 90mm gun.

[Austrasien]

The M47 would be a good choice. Definitely.

[Sahrani South]

While I too think that the M47 is a quite formidable tank, I just wanted some obsolete WW II materiel in storage, I think I will go with Jumbo 76 Shermans and Super Pershings. I just like the idea of museum pieces, much like Soviet category C units equipped with T-34s and ISs.

In how far is the normal M26 gun comparable to the Super Pershing version in a MT setting, given HEAT ammo for it?

[Lamoni]

Best looking tank ever, bar none

[Saphirasia]

Best looking tank ever, bar none

YUS. Obyekt 640 is made of all the secks and RUSSIAN GLORY.

[Austrasien]

While I too think that the M47 is a quite formidable tank, I just wanted some obsolete WW II materiel in storage, I think I will go with Jumbo 76 Shermans and Super Pershings. I just like the idea of museum pieces, much like Soviet category C units equipped with T-34s and ISs.

In how far is the normal M26 gun comparable to the Super Pershing version in a MT setting, given HEAT ammo for it?

Regular. Pershing.

The Super Pershings extra armor and longer gun amount to absolutely nothing against modern opponents.

[Mozria]

Newest version of the Manticore-IV, now with enhanced track skirts and mostly complete active protection system.

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=u93b39595-af1c-4ecc-9cef-f1475d66d294

Could somebody tell me what they think on the newest upgrade?

Bottom-paged, twice.

[Saphirasia]

While I too think that the M47 is a quite formidable tank, I just wanted some obsolete WW II materiel in storage, I think I will go with Jumbo 76 Shermans and Super Pershings. I just like the idea of museum pieces, much like Soviet category C units equipped with T-34s and ISs.

In how far is the normal M26 gun comparable to the Super Pershing version in a MT setting, given HEAT ammo for it?

First, not even Category C units are equipped with T-34-85s and IS-2/3/4s anymore. They have T-55s almost exclusively, maybe some T-62s.

Also, 90mm HEAT ammo from a rifled gun is pitiful, even if you apply modern technology to it. The only WWII tank that can be realistically used in MT formations is the T-44, because it had (barely) enough room in the turret to mount the 100mm gun. Heck, you might be able to upgrade T-44s to 125mm guns. That would make for a laugh.

[United Marxist Nations]

While I too think that the M47 is a quite formidable tank, I just wanted some obsolete WW II materiel in storage, I think I will go with Jumbo 76 Shermans and Super Pershings. I just like the idea of museum pieces, much like Soviet category C units equipped with T-34s and ISs.

In how far is the normal M26 gun comparable to the Super Pershing version in a MT setting, given HEAT ammo for it?

First, not even Category C units are equipped with T-34-85s and IS-2/3/4s anymore. They have T-55s almost exclusively, maybe some T-62s.

Also, 90mm HEAT ammo from a rifled gun is pitiful, even if you apply modern technology to it. The only WWII tank that can be realistically used in MT formations is the T-44, because it had (barely) enough room in the turret to mount the 100mm gun. Heck, you might be able to upgrade T-44s to 125mm guns. That would make for a laugh.

From what I understand, IS-2's and IS-3's can be used as impromptu artillery piece, and a lot of WWII tanks could certainly be used solely as fire support to infantry.

[Saphirasia]

From what I understand, IS-2's and IS-3's can be used as impromptu artillery piece, and a lot of WWII tanks could certainly be used solely as fire support to infantry.

Using IS-2/3s as artillery has a certain symmetry to it, since the D-25T is a variant of the A-19 gun-howitzer.

[United Marxist Nations]

From what I understand, IS-2's and IS-3's can be used as impromptu artillery piece, and a lot of WWII tanks could certainly be used solely as fire support to infantry.

Using IS-2/3s as artillery has a certain symmetry to it, since the D-25T is a variant of the A-19 gun-howitzer.

That would be why.

[Yukonastan]

In a similar but opposite vein, what's the closest range I could theoretically take, say, a PzH-2000, and use its gun in a direct-fire role against say, an MBT?

[Austrasien]

In a similar but opposite vein, what's the closest range I could theoretically take, say, a PzH-2000, and use its gun in a direct-fire role against say, an MBT?

How long is the gun?

[Yukonastan]

In a similar but opposite vein, what's the closest range I could theoretically take, say, a PzH-2000, and use its gun in a direct-fire role against say, an MBT?

How long is the gun?

155mm L52. 8m and 6cm.

[Austrasien]

Then about eight meters. Not sure I would recommend that though...

Its a gun, it has no "minimum range".

[Yukonastan]

Then about eight meters. Not sure I would recommend that though...

Its a gun, it has no "minimum range".

arming distance and that stuff

[Austrasien]

You never said what you were shooting

[Saphirasia]

In a similar but opposite vein, what's the closest range I could theoretically take, say, a PzH-2000, and use its gun in a direct-fire role against say, an MBT?

How long is the gun?

Well, if you're having to use your PzH2000 as a direct-fire AT gun, you've already lost. Other than that, closest range would probably be around 50m, but that would still be really risky.