Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Tranche 7

by **Allanea** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:15 pm

Not to mention that the whining from IMI would shatter the sky.

by **Padnak** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:27 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Padnak wrote:I'm wondering, from what I've gathered the Abrams is basically unkillable, so why doesn't Israel use it? They would have easy access to it and it seems like it would be just as if not more effective then the markeva

Why would they get rid of the Merkava?

They could have simply stopped developing the Merkava and instead slowly replace them with Abrams, had they chose to use the abrams

by **Allanea** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:29 pm

That applies to every Western country, really.

Do you think the UK could not stop making Challenger and buying Abrams instead?

by **Padnak** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:33 pm

Allanea wrote:That applies to every Western country, really.

Do you think the UK could not stop making Challenger and buying Abrams instead?

Do you forget who you're talking too?

I hate the abrams with a passion, despite my acknowledgement as it being the best. Challenger is sex.

If I had my way all wars would be fought with T-90s...

by **Allanea** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:33 pm

Wars should be fought with T-95s.

by **Padnak** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:36 pm

Allanea wrote:Wars should be fought with T-95s.

Thats an odd way of saying T-72BMs

by **The Kievan People** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:41 pm

Padnak wrote:I hate the abrams with a passion, despite my acknowledgement as it being the best. Challenger is sex.

Why must you be the worst Canadian?

by **Rich and Corporations** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:41 pm

Padnak wrote:Thats an odd way of saying T-72BMs

git oot

The Kievan People wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:So basically they are spending it on local industries and engineering firms.

Local firms like Raytheon and General Dynamics.

Exactly, forces them to hire locally.

by **Imperializt Russia** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:41 pm

Allanea wrote:Not to mention that the whining from IMI would shatter the sky.

Gave me a giggle.

The Kievan People wrote:
Padnak wrote:I hate the abrams with a passion, despite my acknowledgement as it being the best. Challenger is sex.

Why must you be the worst Canadian?

Also this.

by **Padnak** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:42 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Padnak wrote:I hate the abrams with a passion, despite my acknowledgement as it being the best. Challenger is sex.

Why must you be the worst Canadian?

My love lies with Britannia until the end!

by **Allanea** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:44 pm

Padnak wrote:Thats an odd way of saying T-72BMs

Do your T-72BMs carry 152mm main guns?

Do they, I ask?

by **Imperializt Russia** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:45 pm

Allanea wrote:
Padnak wrote:Thats an odd way of saying T-72BMs

Do your T-72BMs carry 152mm main guns?

Do they, I ask?

WHY NOT INDEED

by **The Kievan People** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:46 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:Exactly, forces them to hire locally.

The Namer was being built in Ohio.

by **Padnak** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:48 pm

Allanea wrote:
Padnak wrote:Thats an odd way of saying T-72BMs

Do your T-72BMs carry 152mm main guns?

Do they, I ask?

Bro.

Bro.

Modified 2S7 Pion guns

Haters gonna hate

by **Allanea** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:48 pm

The difference is, 152mm-armed tanks are actually possible.

by **The Kievan People** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:53 pm

Padnak wrote:My love lies with Britannia until the end!

It's so embarrassing that people like you are 4real. :oops:

by **Imperializt Russia** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:54 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Padnak wrote:My love lies with Britannia until the end!

It's so embarrassing that people like you are 4real.

You act like loving Britain isn't natural.

by **The Kievan People** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:56 pm

I was referring more to his silly and stereotypical knee-jerk anti-Americanism.

by **Imperializt Russia** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:57 pm

The Kievan People wrote:I was referring more to his silly and stereotypical knee-jerk anti-Americanism.

That's an inference I'm really not getting from the course of this discussion.

by **EsToVnIa** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:05 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
It's so embarrassing that people like you are 4real.

You act like loving Britain isn't natural.

Only on the internet.

by **The Kievan People** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:15 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:That's an inference I'm really not getting from the course of this discussion.

Let us go back to the post I originally responded to:

Padnak wrote:I hate the abrams with a passion, despite my acknowledgement as it being the best.

Comprende?

by **Padnak** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:19 pm

The Kievan People wrote:I was referring more to his silly and stereotypical knee-jerk anti-Americanism.

Considering that you've only dealt with me on the Mil-realism threads, its not hard to see how you'd get that impression.

My anti-Americanism is solely limited to US foreign policy and the chest beating HOORA merica is the best nationalism you tend to get on threads like this. Outside of those two things I love the US and its people, hell I've wanted to move to Oregon state since I visited in 2005.

Allanea wrote:The difference is, 152mm-armed tanks are actually possible.

I'm wondering, wouldn't having a 152mm gun restrict the ammunition load too much?

by **Padnak** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:21 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Padnak wrote:I hate the abrams with a passion, despite my acknowledgement as it being the best.

Comprende?

I should probably clarify that I don't hate the Abrams because its American, I just hate its overall appearance-

by **Imperializt Russia** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:22 pm

I believe that, along with 140mm ammunition, it would reduce the ammunition load of conventional 120/125mm guns by about a third.
I do not believe that this will significantly impact the tank's capability.

Padnak wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:

Comprende?

I should probably clarify that I don't hate the Abrams because its American, I just hate its overall appearance-

K1 is the Abrams aesthetic done right.

by **Saphirasia** » Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:12 pm

Allanea wrote:The difference is, 152mm-armed tanks are actually possible.

Possible enough that people have made realistic tanks based around 152mm high-velocity guns on NS.

EDIT: Actually, I should correct that to "Possible enough that the Obyekt 292 exists."

EDIT2: I'm going to go commit heresy and design a Western-style turret for my T-14. This should be good.

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