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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:44 pm

That silly light tank reece thing from Belarus has a retractable MANPAD RWS in the turret.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:49 pm

Oaledonia wrote:That silly light tank reece thing from Belarus has a retractable MANPAD RWS in the turret.

This.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:50 pm

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Right. From this day forward I shall push myself back onto the path of logic and reason!


One thing you still forgot to do, while on the subject of stupid huge, militarize a bagger 288 for prestige. After that, be reasonable again, but NOT until you finish with the Bagger.

(inb4 mobile excavating fortress a la dragomere)


I would purchase a militarized Bagger 288 for Allanea.
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:52 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:That silly light tank reece thing from Belarus has a retractable MANPAD RWS in the turret.

This.

Still not an aerostalker. But RWS MANPADS? Pah, my IFV gun has proper optics, high elevation, and high fire rate and traverse/elevate speed, I don't need no stinkin' MANPADS.
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Postby Vancon » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:55 pm

Allanea wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
One thing you still forgot to do, while on the subject of stupid huge, militarize a bagger 288 for prestige. After that, be reasonable again, but NOT until you finish with the Bagger.

(inb4 mobile excavating fortress a la dragomere)


I would purchase a militarized Bagger 288 for Allanea.


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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:56 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:That silly light tank reece thing from Belarus has a retractable MANPAD RWS in the turret.

This.

Fun fact - similar chassis to the Tor and Tunguska vehicles.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:13 pm

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Why move them by road when you can just bulldoze a path through the jungle?

Engine issues.

Tanks clearing a path through dense undergrowth, forest or jungle were afforded about three hours of dozing before being pulled out. It's very hard on engines. Remember a tank's basically an overweight dozer without a blade.

tanks use a high performance diesel, on the lowest gear, at the best RPM, to clear a path through a jungle
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The expansion of rubber and the shock wave of the metal plate expanding? Generally you want to weaken the shaped charge before the main armor is penetrated, not after.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:15 pm

If only military forces had in them some kind of specialist units that could build roads.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:19 pm

Allanea wrote:If only military forces had in them some kind of specialist units that could build roads.

equipped with armored bulldozers, clearing a dirt path through the jungle....

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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:20 pm

Allanea wrote:If only military forces had in them some kind of specialist units that could build roads.


"497th Heavy Construction Brigade"

I would like to point out that having this was my initial idea...
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:27 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:The expansion of rubber and the shock wave of the metal plate expanding? Generally you want to weaken the shaped charge before the main armor is penetrated, not after.


NERA can BE the main armor. That is what people are not grasping.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:31 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Allanea wrote:If only military forces had in them some kind of specialist units that could build roads.

equipped with armored bulldozers, clearing a dirt path through the jungle....

We'll call them The Army Corps of Engineers, or just Combat Engineers.....
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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:46 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:equipped with armored bulldozers, clearing a dirt path through the jungle....

We'll call them The Army Corps of Engineers, or just Combat Engineers.....


Heres a question, how reasonable would it be for a third world nation (like mine) that has a large military (like mine) and wants to rapidly modernize (like mine), to use its military to build large public projects such as highways?
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Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.

Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.

Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:47 pm

Padnak wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:We'll call them The Army Corps of Engineers, or just Combat Engineers.....


Heres a question, how reasonable would it be for a third world nation (like mine) that has a large military (like mine) and wants to rapidly modernize (like mine), to use its military to build large public projects such as highways?

Too much trouble and it will tie up massive resources. Just create a USDOT.
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:49 pm

Padnak wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:We'll call them The Army Corps of Engineers, or just Combat Engineers.....


Heres a question, how reasonable would it be for a third world nation (like mine) that has a large military (like mine) and wants to rapidly modernize (like mine), to use its military to build large public projects such as highways?


Quite. However, do explain it to parliament or the senate as military construction projects, for use in times of emergency and war. Don't forget the nuke holes, which you dig and plug over, which are the exact size of your demolition charges. In case of invasion, dig up nuke hole, drop and arm nuke, and drive away.

Use the segments which are in friendly hands as runways and military main routes in case of invasion.
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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:55 pm

I see

Aren't all the roads in that new capital they built in Burma designed to be used as runways?
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Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:58 pm

Padnak wrote:I see

Aren't all the roads in that new capital they built in Burma designed to be used as runways?

There was a rumor that the roads in DC are small enough so that a tank can't fit through. I don't know how true that is though...
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:01 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Padnak wrote:I see

Aren't all the roads in that new capital they built in Burma designed to be used as runways?

There was a rumor that the roads in DC are small enough so that a tank can't fit through. I don't know how true that is though...


Sounds like typical loony nonsense.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:02 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Padnak wrote:I see

Aren't all the roads in that new capital they built in Burma designed to be used as runways?

There was a rumor that the roads in DC are small enough so that a tank can't fit through. I don't know how true that is though...


If you built a road that small it'd be utterly useless.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:04 pm

Allanea wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:There was a rumor that the roads in DC are small enough so that a tank can't fit through. I don't know how true that is though...


If you built a road that small it'd be utterly useless.

A tank requires two lanes to drive through and be able to maneuver the turret decently... so.
It's possible.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:06 pm

Apparently there are some vehicle lanes that are only 2.7 meters wide. So I guess it is possible in some limited way to build tiny one-lane roads that can't fit tanks (and of course nobody can stop a tank from using the sidewalk).
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:08 pm

Allanea wrote:Apparently there are some vehicle lanes that are only 2.7 meters wide. So I guess it is possible in some limited way to build tiny one-lane roads that can't fit tanks (and of course nobody can stop a tank from using the sidewalk).

You are driving a tank down a street where you can't turn the turret, and your margin of error for ramming the tank into a fence is high enough to force you to drive slowly... and there's a chance a chain link fence will get stuck in the tracks.

Great idea. Sounds like a slapstick version of Kelly's Heroes.
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Postby Allanea » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:09 pm

This, of course, is about whether tanks would fit in the first place, not about whether they can drive comfortably about.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:10 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Padnak wrote:I see

Aren't all the roads in that new capital they built in Burma designed to be used as runways?

There was a rumor that the roads in DC are small enough so that a tank can't fit through. I don't know how true that is though...

A tank would require at least four metres of space in drive. Vehicles in a two-lane, opposing road require about two metres of space each, requiring about four metres of roadway.

Large cars, such as those beloved in the US, can be pushing 1.8m in width already, and road lanes are probably pushing 2.5m width anyway. Giving at least five metres of roadway, more than enough for tanks. Unless it's an alleyway, there will be space over the sidewalk to manoeuvre the gun barrel.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:11 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:sidewalk to manoeuvre the gun barrel.

assuming that the barrel is of a sane length
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