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Postby New Oyashima » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:41 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Gallia- wrote:not what point blank means

Wiki: In external ballistics, point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm.

point blank isn't binary :P

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Postby Korouse » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:12 pm

Caribica wrote:The 2S9 Sochor SPG, (Image)
The BTR-K Kamysh IFV, (Image)
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Those are all from ArmA 3 lol
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:21 pm

New Oyashima wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:Wiki: In external ballistics, point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm.

point blank isn't binary :P

erm. actually it is. either you need to adjust the elevation of the gun or you don't.
Korouse wrote:Those are all from ArmA 3 lol
we all use video games as inspiration I thought

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Postby Korouse » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:27 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:
New Oyashima wrote:point blank isn't binary :P

erm. actually it is. either you need to adjust the elevation of the gun or you don't.
Korouse wrote:Those are all from ArmA 3 lol
we all use video games as inspiration I thought

I just thought I would point it out. Arma 3 vehicles are *technically* Post-Modern. I wonder if he is.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:29 pm

Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Laywenrania wrote:So I can drop the numbers I calculated for my tank as RHAe numbers and should rather use something along "it's immune to 120mm M133 APDS"?


I've been trying to get people to do that here for years.
"Immune from XXXSpecificRound 30 degrees across the frontal arc from 1km" is an applicable, realistic protection value. Provided all other things match, which is why it's good for people to review things like weight, internal layout, etc.

Protection is the hardest part of a tank to come up with realistically for a game like NS, because it is the most complex.

protection.... isn't binary.

even the best protected tanks aim for protection probabilities of 75% or 90% or something. it's a bit classified
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Postby New Oyashima » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:32 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:erm. actually it is. either you need to adjust the elevation of the gun or you don't.

Jokes aren't binary.

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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:33 pm

New Oyashima wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:erm. actually it is. either you need to adjust the elevation of the gun or you don't.

Jokes aren't binary.

quite clearly they are

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Postby Yukonastan » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:02 pm

New Oyashima wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:erm. actually it is. either you need to adjust the elevation of the gun or you don't.

Jokes aren't binary.


10101010101110101010001010101010101011101001010101001

It's funny 'cause you're right. It isn't binary.
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Postby New Oyashima » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:37 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
New Oyashima wrote:Jokes aren't binary.


10101010101110101010001010101010101011101001010101001

It's funny 'cause you're right. It isn't binary.

I nearly pissed myself when you said 101001, but then I thought 101002.

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Postby Lamoni » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:39 pm

New Oyashima wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
10101010101110101010001010101010101011101001010101001

It's funny 'cause you're right. It isn't binary.

I nearly pissed myself when you said 101001, but then I thought 101002.


Silly Oale, there is no two.
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Postby Yukonastan » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:44 pm

Lamoni wrote:
New Oyashima wrote:I nearly pissed myself when you said 101001, but then I thought 101002.


Silly Oale, there is no two.


10201002012020102010211120201022210202020102

And then there was ternary

Why are we even discussing this.
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Postby Lamoni » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:13 am

Yukonastan wrote:
Lamoni wrote:
Silly Oale, there is no two.


10201002012020102010211120201022210202020102

And then there was ternary

Why are we even discussing this.


Because we can?
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Postby Yukonastan » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:20 am

Lamoni wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
10201002012020102010211120201022210202020102

And then there was ternary

Why are we even discussing this.


Because we can?

But this is the tanku thread... (._.)
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Postby Lamoni » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:52 am

Wouldn't be the first time it went off topic.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:00 am

Would tankus benefit from using ternary fcs over binary?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:44 am

Immoren wrote:Would tankus benefit from using ternary fcs over binary?

Complexity and incompatibility, I would guess.
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Postby Caribica » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:45 am

Questers wrote:
Bratislavskaya wrote:Post Soviet?
I would call it conservative capitalist. "Post Soviet" is not a description of a political system.

Using stuff from ARMA 3 is total fail though

How the hell is it a fail?

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Postby Laywenrania » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:47 am

Immoren wrote:Would tankus benefit from using ternary fcs over binary?


Imho it would be contraproductive, you lose the advantages of the binary system (-> symple steering by the state of the voltage with High/Low) while not really gaining much.
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Postby Lamoni » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:52 am

Caribica wrote:
Questers wrote: I would call it conservative capitalist. "Post Soviet" is not a description of a political system.

Using stuff from ARMA 3 is total fail though

How the hell is it a fail?


*Lamoni points out that this is a realism thread, then points at ARMA 3, and waits for you get the (lack) of connection between the two*
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Postby Questers » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:38 am

Caribica wrote:
Questers wrote: I would call it conservative capitalist. "Post Soviet" is not a description of a political system.

Using stuff from ARMA 3 is total fail though

How the hell is it a fail?
ARMA 3, as you may have noticed, is a fictional video game.
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:42 am

Questers wrote:
Caribica wrote:How the hell is it a fail?
ARMA 3, as you may have noticed, is a fictional video game.


It's certainly lazy, but Arma 3 has the most boring fictional vehicles ever. I don't see how using slightly modified RL stuff is less realistic than the NS original supertankus nearly everybody but you and maybe Anemos churn out.
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Postby Triplebaconation » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:47 am

The only really dumb Arma 3 vehicle is the stealth A-10.
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Postby Questers » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:57 am

Triplebaconation wrote:
Questers wrote: ARMA 3, as you may have noticed, is a fictional video game.


It's certainly lazy, but Arma 3 has the most boring fictional vehicles ever. I don't see how using slightly modified RL stuff is less realistic than the NS original supertankus nearly everybody but you and maybe Anemos churn out.
It isn't a fail because it's less realistic, but because most of the vehicles are just rebadged IRL ones with dumb names, so why bother using an M4A1 "SLAPPER" when you can just use a Merkava and put your own name to it?

There's nothing wrong with using RL equipment. But is pretty ! to use real equipment which has been renamed by a video game.
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