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New Vihenia
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Postby New Vihenia » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:25 pm

2015 WIPEE... Our tanks rollin out of their nest :3

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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:27 pm

New Vihenia wrote:2015 WIPEE... Our tanks rollin out of their nest :3

Roll Out


"PATHFINDER BOYSCOUT ..." wat.
You've got some explainin' to do, meh friend.
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New Vihenia
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Postby New Vihenia » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:29 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
New Vihenia wrote:2015 WIPEE... Our tanks rollin out of their nest :3

Roll Out


"PATHFINDER BOYSCOUT ..." wat.
You've got some explainin' to do, meh friend.


In Vihenia, boyscout organization do operate tanks, fighters, warships and att helicopters. Basically equivalent to US Marines. 8)
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Postby Caribica » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:30 pm

The 2S9 Sochor SPG, Image
The BTR-K Kamysh IFV, Image
and the Ifirit MRAP, Image
I'll post more later I need to get to bed
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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:33 pm

New Vihenia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
"PATHFINDER BOYSCOUT ..." wat.
You've got some explainin' to do, meh friend.


In Vihenia, boyscout organization do operate tanks, fighters, warships and att helicopters. Basically equivalent to US Marines. 8)

Y'see, I was at least a little more open about their military nature, and called them a Youth Corps :P
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Laywenrania
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Postby Laywenrania » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:41 pm

Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Laywenrania wrote:So what would be realistical for a modernised T-72 derivate, fielding a bustle autoloader, with an armour layout similar to latest russian tanks (projects) and modern ERA? Could it defeat 120mm rounds?


Slather it in ERA.
You'll never defeat the most modern rounds because they are designed to defeat anything you can get. Russian tech tends to sit behind Western tech, even if only a little bit, and even if only because of budgets.

So just slather it in ERA. You can never go wrong. Except after your ERA tiles are used up.

GraySoap wrote: If it wore modern ERA, something akin to Relikt, I suspect it could protect against most 120mm shell in the frontal turret and glacis. Hit elsewhere and it's likely dead. Of course ERA doesn't last long and if the enemy has some advanced ERA-baiting tandem HEAT shell* then it may well be dead-weight.


We've got soviet equipment earlier, but now decided to switch to nearly completly domestic production of equipment, which would include own development of ERA etc. (so theoretically we're not hampered by budget issues of nowadays russian army and the "stagnation" of designs that heavily^^)

My current idea would be that:
The decision to get the soviet equipment and continue to use it and it's "design style" of rather low-weight, mobile tanks has to do with the enviroment of my country (islands and the need to carry it from Island A to B, terrain of the islands) and the doctrinal use of them, which requires mobile tanks with rather low weight. At the same time I require crew safety, as I don't have manpower to spare (well... even more then other countries :P Due to low population of 7 million). (and I like their looks :D )
Use of the tanks would include acting as a QRF reacting on enemy beach landings and fending it off. In this regard I guess glacis armour is not THAT important compared to turret armour, so at least the turret should be able to resist hits of fielded tanks guns and AT(GM) launchers frontally/the top.

Any flaws with the thoughts?^^
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:44 pm

If you were previously reliant on Russian imports, it's probably not usual that your own designs would be anything special unless you were the region of the Soviet Union that built these parts - like Ukraine.

It'd also imply that Russia's "budget issues" wouldn't be all that simple to overcome - again, partly because the production base probably isn't there.

Of course, depending on grounded you'd like to play, all of what I said could have been meaningless.
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Laywenrania
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Postby Laywenrania » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:51 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:If you were previously reliant on Russian imports, it's probably not usual that your own designs would be anything special unless you were the region of the Soviet Union that built these parts - like Ukraine.

It'd also imply that Russia's "budget issues" wouldn't be all that simple to overcome - again, partly because the production base probably isn't there.

Of course, depending on grounded you'd like to play, all of what I said could have been meaningless.

We built the tanks in license and with domestic modifications to them for a while (maybe imaginable a bit like Poland and it's production of soviet tanks and then later PT-91 variants etc).
So a certain base (production and knowledge/technology wise) exists.
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Caribica
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Postby Caribica » Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:52 pm

Laywenrania wrote:
Dostanuot Loj wrote:
Slather it in ERA.
You'll never defeat the most modern rounds because they are designed to defeat anything you can get. Russian tech tends to sit behind Western tech, even if only a little bit, and even if only because of budgets.

So just slather it in ERA. You can never go wrong. Except after your ERA tiles are used up.

GraySoap wrote: If it wore modern ERA, something akin to Relikt, I suspect it could protect against most 120mm shell in the frontal turret and glacis. Hit elsewhere and it's likely dead. Of course ERA doesn't last long and if the enemy has some advanced ERA-baiting tandem HEAT shell* then it may well be dead-weight.


We've got soviet equipment earlier, but now decided to switch to nearly completly domestic production of equipment, which would include own development of ERA etc. (so theoretically we're not hampered by budget issues of nowadays russian army and the "stagnation" of designs that heavily^^)

My current idea would be that:
The decision to get the soviet equipment and continue to use it and it's "design style" of rather low-weight, mobile tanks has to do with the enviroment of my country (islands and the need to carry it from Island A to B, terrain of the islands) and the doctrinal use of them, which requires mobile tanks with rather low weight. At the same time I require crew safety, as I don't have manpower to spare (well... even more then other countries :P Due to low population of 7 million). (and I like their looks :D )
Use of the tanks would include acting as a QRF reacting on enemy beach landings and fending it off. In this regard I guess glacis armour is not THAT important compared to turret armour, so at least the turret should be able to resist hits of fielded tanks guns and AT(GM) launchers frontally/the top.

Any flaws with the thoughts?^^

Why not just use our MBT, the good old/new T-100 Varusk, Image

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Laywenrania
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Postby Laywenrania » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:03 pm

Caribica wrote:Why not just use our MBT, the good old/new T-100 Varusk, (Image)

We do not like to be reliant on imports for crucial military equipment and can imagine that the most nations won't sell their top-models to other countries but just monkey models.
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Postby Krazakistan » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:04 pm

Krazakistan wrote:WIP factbook for my T-72SP

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Military Equipment of your nation

Postby Belusium » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:04 pm

This is a place for you to post your pictures and specifications of your military equipment.

Belusium Armed Forces

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Jaguar Main Battle Tank

Stats

Type: Main Battle Tank
Crew: 4
Introduction: 1980

Dimensions and weight

Weight: 41.7 t
Length: hull: 9.6m
Hull Length: 6m
Width: 3.13m
Height: 2.62m

Armament

Main armament: 105 mm rifled gun
Secondary armament: 1x12.7mm, 2x7.62mm
Elevation Range: -4 +17
Traverse Range: 360 degrees

Ammunition Load

Main armament: 34 rounds
Secondary armament: 600 rounds of 12.7m and 1000 rounds of 7.7×62mmR


[Mobility

Engine: Avco Lycoming AGT1500 gas turbine
Engine Power: 1500hp
Maximum speed: 72.4 km/h
Range: 540 km

Maneuverability

Gradient: 60%
Side Slope: 30%
Vertical Step: 0.8m
Trench: 2.7m
Fording: 1.4m
Fording (with preparation):up to 4.5m

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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:05 pm

Caribica wrote:SNIP

If you are a "conservative capitalist" why are you using evolved Eastern Bloc tech? And why from ARMA 3?
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Postby Questers » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:08 pm

Bratislavskaya wrote:
Caribica wrote:SNIP

If you are a "conservative capitalist" why are you using evolved Eastern Bloc tech? And why from ARMA 3?

What do you call Poland if not conservative capitalist?
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Caribica
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Postby Caribica » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:11 pm

Bratislavskaya wrote:
Caribica wrote:SNIP

If you are a "conservative capitalist" why are you using evolved Eastern Bloc tech? And why from ARMA 3?

I as a person am conservative, my nation does not reflect my real life views and thank you, I should probably put that info in my sig. I really don't know why I put stuff from Arma in here, maybe it's because I feel like everything else is too... "Established" (Look I don't know how to use mainstream without sounding like a hipster Ok?)
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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:12 pm

Questers wrote:
Bratislavskaya wrote:If you are a "conservative capitalist" why are you using evolved Eastern Bloc tech? And why from ARMA 3?

What do you call Poland if not conservative capitalist?

Post Soviet?
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Postby The Kievan People » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:13 pm

This is NS it couldn't matter less.
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Postby Questers » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:38 pm

Bratislavskaya wrote:
Questers wrote:What do you call Poland if not conservative capitalist?

Post Soviet?
I would call it conservative capitalist. "Post Soviet" is not a description of a political system.

Using stuff from ARMA 3 is total fail though
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Postby New Milograd » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:41 pm

Questers wrote:
Bratislavskaya wrote:If you are a "conservative capitalist" why are you using evolved Eastern Bloc tech? And why from ARMA 3?

What do you call Poland if not conservative capitalist?

post-stalinist
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Postby Yukonastan » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:09 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Time for number 2. Anything wrong?

Type: Infantry fighting vehicle; family chassis
Place of origin: Yukonastan

In service: 1971-Present
Used by: Yukonastan Defense Force; Yukonastan Expeditionary Force

Designer: Northern Military Industries Land Vehicle Division
Designed: April 28, 1971
Manufacturer: Northern Military Industries Land Vehicle Division
Manufactured: 750+

Weight: 32.5 t
Length: 7.2 m
Width: 3.2 m
Height: 2.9 m (base IFV variant)
Crew: 2 (Base IFV variant, driver, commander/gunner)

Armor: 20mm point blank (25mm@200m)over frontal arc, 14.5mm (20mm@200m)point blank elsewhere. Steel, aluminium, and applique over the tracks
Main Armament: 32x142mm chain gun (current)
Secondary Armament: 10.4x64mm medium machine gun
Engine: 500 kW diesel (670 HP)
Power/weight: 20.6 HP/t
Suspension: Torsion bar
Ground clearance: 0.42 m
Fuel capacity: 640 L
Operational range: 580 km
Speed: 82 km/h on road without applique, 75 km/h on road with, 50 km/h off-road


R-r-r-r-retoast.

...I will assume that this is then mostly logical and realistic?
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Postby Yukonastan » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:54 pm

Gallia- wrote:not what point blank means


Assume muzzle of 14.5mm machine gun is touching armor, or is within 1 metre of it.

Now fire 14.5mm machine gun.

The armor on the thing I retoasted will withstand that impact force at that range of 0cm to 100cm from the muzzle.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:33 pm

Gallia- wrote:not what point blank means

Wiki: In external ballistics, point-blank range is the distance between a firearm and a target of a given size such that the bullet in flight is expected to strike the target without adjusting the elevation of the firearm.

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