The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, Model 4

[Puzikas]

Depends on velocity/bullet construction too.

Ideally I would put the diameter at between 4.6 (the bare minimum as it were) and 5.5mm in terms of its overall preformance area.

Depending on the diameter of Aquis as 3-5 calibers in diameter.

The G11s muzzle velocity and its rate of fire are, at least in part, theoretical factors that boost the likelyhood of striking the target multiple times quickly, which makes up for a less-than-optimal terminal effect. Two is better than one, as it were.

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Its hard to find gun porn of a blocky rifle.

I wonder today if H&K were to release the G11 as a civilian rifle in semiautomatic only, with its fixed optic pre-zerod at ~300yds, how well ot would do.

Im pretty sure it would come down to ammo cost.

[Federal Republic of Aratia]

While we're on magazines: Surefire 60rd quad stack or AK74 50rd quad stack follower? I'm leaning toward the latter, as the surefire isn't the most reliable. I'd be using it in a 54rd quad stack magazine that was indigenously developed, and made of steel and aluminium.

The Surefire magazines are designed for the civilian (read: Mall Ninja) market. I'd go with the military design, but ditch the rocking mechanism and stick with a western-style mag well.

[Gallia-]

Huh? Simpler than the Hughes/LSAT/TRW solutions?

All it does is spin, who cares how it does it. (8

[Sevvania]

The trigger guard seems too spacious if I take it all the way to the end of the frame, which would probably increase the chances of something getting hung up in there.

Eh, possibly. Either way, beautiful pistol.

Thanks Credit for the original PMG goes to Robbe25.

I attempted artillery model:

Not sure if gusta.

[Sediczja]

Eh, possibly. Either way, beautiful pistol.

Thanks Credit for the original PMG goes to Robbe25.

I attempted artillery model:

Not sure if gusta.

IMO it'd look better if you made the wooden parts one. Other than that it looks nice.

[Lemanrussland]

Russian magazine>US magazine in almost all respects.

Bulgarian Circle 10 mags strong.

[Gallia-]

Depends on velocity/bullet construction too.

Ideally I would put the diameter at between 4.6 (the bare minimum as it were) and 5.5mm in terms of its overall preformance area.

Depending on the diameter of Aquis as 3-5 calibers in diameter.

The G11s muzzle velocity and its rate of fire are, at least in part, theoretical factors that boost the likelyhood of striking the target multiple times quickly, which makes up for a less-than-optimal terminal effect. Two is better than one, as it were.

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Its hard to find gun porn of a blocky rifle.

I wonder today if H&K were to release the G11 as a civilian rifle in semiautomatic only, with its fixed optic pre-zerod at ~300yds, how well ot would do.

Im pretty sure it would come down to ammo cost.

It would cost $5,000 and no one would buy it.

[Sediczja]

Can I get a final opinion before I go on to colouring, shading and detailing? Moved the gas block back as per Spree's suggestion and I messed with the barrel a little, but it just ended up looking even more off so I left it as is. No safety or bolt yet, I know. I'm not that dumb >.>

I'm also not sure if the receiver cover would be able to hinge off AKS74U style as it's positioned now.

[Puzikas]

Depends on velocity/bullet construction too.

Ideally I would put the diameter at between 4.6 (the bare minimum as it were) and 5.5mm in terms of its overall preformance area.

Depending on the diameter of Aquis as 3-5 calibers in diameter.

The G11s muzzle velocity and its rate of fire are, at least in part, theoretical factors that boost the likelyhood of striking the target multiple times quickly, which makes up for a less-than-optimal terminal effect. Two is better than one, as it were.

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Its hard to find gun porn of a blocky rifle.

I wonder today if H&K were to release the G11 as a civilian rifle in semiautomatic only, with its fixed optic pre-zerod at ~300yds, how well ot would do.

Im pretty sure it would come down to ammo cost.

It would cost $5,000 and no one would buy it.

Thats a fair statment.
Well, no one but the H&K fans.

[Black Hand]

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I like my AN-94s in 9x39mm.

I still maintain that as a carbine/PDW it made sense from the standpoint of shared training and superior terminal performance within ~300m

[Imperializt Russia]

You guys are aware that 30-round AR magazines aren't constantly curved, right?

Granted, PMags are close, but still.

I did say that it should not be taken as absolutely correct.

[Spreewerke]

Russian magazine>US magazine in almost all respects.

Bulgarian Circle 10 mags strong.

Bulgarian magazines copy the Russian design. It just happens that US import law allows Bulgarian magazines, but not Russian ones (few exceptions, of course).

While we're on magazines: Surefire 60rd quad stack or AK74 50rd quad stack follower? I'm leaning toward the latter, as the surefire isn't the most reliable. I'd be using it in a 54rd quad stack magazine that was indigenously developed, and made of steel and aluminium.

The Surefire magazines are designed for the civilian (read: Mall Ninja) market. I'd go with the military design, but ditch the rocking mechanism and stick with a western-style mag well.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013 ... -magazine/

You're right though, civilian-market technology has never had a place in militaries.

[Bratislavskaya]

Do any of you people know much about the StG-940? Is it just a AK in disguise or is it different internally? Also pictures, just for the sake of it:

[Sediczja]

Do any of you people know much about the StG-940? Is it just a AK in disguise or is it different internally? Also pictures, just for the sake of it:
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From what I've heard/seen it's just a 5.56 AK with new furniture.

[Premislyd]

Do any of you people know much about the StG-940? Is it just a AK in disguise or is it different internally? Also pictures, just for the sake of it:
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Looks like an AK, therefore it's an AK.

[Spreewerke]

Do any of you people know much about the StG-940? Is it just a AK in disguise or is it different internally? Also pictures, just for the sake of it:
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Known in the US as, plainly, Wiegers:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010 ... 40-rifles/

The ones in the US appear to just be mocked-up WASR-3s.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Its hard to find gun porn of a blocky rifle.

Not really

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Me gusta.

What is it chambered in?

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I personally would suggest covering the gas tube. Leaving it exposed just feels like a bad idea to me.

[Purpelia]

Its hard to find gun porn of a blocky rifle.

Not really

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It's porn alright. The problem is that rather than being a 20-something year old model this thing looks like a 40-something year old fat barmaid with a drinking problem.

[Sevvania]

The problem is that rather than being a 20-something year old model this thing looks like a 40-something year old fat barmaid with a drinking problem.

I dunno about that. It looks more like a low-poly weapon from an older video game, or something individual infantry units might carry in an RTS. Just sort of a gun-shaped block.

[Perwita]

Lunchbox Gun.

[Purpelia]

The problem is that rather than being a 20-something year old model this thing looks like a 40-something year old fat barmaid with a drinking problem.

I dunno about that. It looks more like a low-poly weapon from an older video game, or something individual infantry units might carry in an RTS. Just sort of a gun-shaped block.

Replace "weapon" with girl and you get the end result of my analogy.

[Yukonastan]

Russian magazine>US magazine in almost all respects.

Bulgarian Circle 10 mags strong.

Those... aren't quadstack... fifty rounders...
Eh, whatever. I'm going with the follower design of the 50rd AK quad stack mag in something that has a rear locking notch. Made out of steel and aluminium, 'cause that's how I roll. [anti-tilt follower made from polymer?] It'd be a relatively ridiculous 54 round magazine, to reduce the need to reload in a firefight.

[Black Hand]

Better Idea, use a quad stack 30 round. I use 18, 24 and 36, round casket mags IC because of reduced magazine lengths

[Spreewerke]

Better Idea, use a quad stack 30 round. I use 18, 24 and 36, round casket mags IC because of reduced magazine lengths

Even better idea: use regular magazines because it means more rounds on your person.

Quad-stacked AK-74 magazine is the same width as about two 30-round magazines and a tiny bit taller. However, for the same width/depth on chest gear, you could have two 30-round magazines that hold 60 rounds. 60 is ten more than 50.



Worried about initial contact and magazine capacity? Obtain electrical tape; pair magazines.

[Lemanrussland]

Better Idea, use a quad stack 30 round. I use 18, 24 and 36, round casket mags IC because of reduced magazine lengths

Even better idea: use regular magazines because it means more rounds on your person.

Quad-stacked AK-74 magazine is the same width as about two 30-round magazines and a tiny bit taller. However, for the same width/depth on chest gear, you could have two 30-round magazines that hold 60 rounds. 60 is ten more than 50.



Worried about initial contact and magazine capacity? Obtain electrical tape; pair magazines.

What do you guys think of the coupling studs found on some magazines? Good idea, or just another thing to snag the magazine on?