The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, Model 4

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Well, I'm thinking of a see-through, goggle-type-thing with the HUD built into it (kind of like an F-35 helmet, mixed with BAE's new HMD), and then the hardened visor with the cameras and LCD display flips down over it.
So they can view and utilise the HUD whether the visor is up or down.

I could see that working well enough. The only problem I can think of at this point is that you have essentially killed one bird with two stones. A gross misapplication of stones to be certain.

The main reason for me implementing a flip-visor would be that ~6 cameras and a full-colour LCD display are pretty hard on the old batteries, and you can't see through the screen when you switch it off, because buried inside a plate of hard-armour.

The PLSS pack should hold enough power to keep it going for a goodly amount of time. Long enough for whatever spess contractors in any case.

By the time it filters to the ground troops I imagine the power pack will have advanced to the point of being acceptably compact while still providing a reasonable amount of use.

Enhanced astronomical observation.

Sure. . . I guess.

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The ability to use "black" flashlights to illuminate areas properly as opposed to relying on IR or just amplifying what ever little ambient light there is.

I could see that being somewhat handy. Anything else?

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[Coltarin]

That's an oddly specific date. Are you like in a region that is set up that way?

Just to get a date going. It's always today forty years ago, unless I retcon it.
Edit:

Made these months ago, haha. Antitank guided missiles, that you'd find in a stationary defensive position. These are a Spriggan/Kornet and a TOW-2A, and are (unsurprisingly, see above) not used (or not widely used) within Yukonastan.

So to get the discussion going, what sort of ATGM does your infantry use?

I hand out my version of the m72 LAW for regular squad use, otherwise I'm still working on my other launchers. Can't decide if I want more SMAW or RPG.
EDIT:
I can also into curved mag.

[Purpelia]

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Well a helmet integrated UV flashlight might be handy.

[Insaeldor]

Currently the NMAV-05 is replacing th EFR-58 (domestically produced FN FAL copy) as the standard Service Rifle of the Royal Insaeldic Ground Army while the EFR-58 is transferred to a DMR role. The NMAV-05 is based on the AR-15/M16A4 platform however it has a few differences including the use of the indegonious 6.8x43 Jägíar round while also having a longer barrel at 580mm and an overall length of 1,072mm. The rifle also uses short-stroke piston system rather then a direct impingement system.

[Yukonastan]

Currently the NMAV-05 is replacing th EFR-58 (domestically produced FN FAL copy) as the standard Service Rifle of the Royal Insaeldic Ground Army while the EFR-58 is transferred to a DMR role. The NMAV-05 is based on the AR-15/M16A4 platform however it has a few differences including the use of the indegonious 6.8x43 Jägíar round while also having a longer barrel at 580mm and an overall length of 1,072mm. The rifle also uses short-stroke piston system rather then a direct impingement system.

So basically a long-barreled HK 416?

[Insaeldor]

Currently the NMAV-05 is replacing th EFR-58 (domestically produced FN FAL copy) as the standard Service Rifle of the Royal Insaeldic Ground Army while the EFR-58 is transferred to a DMR role. The NMAV-05 is based on the AR-15/M16A4 platform however it has a few differences including the use of the indegonious 6.8x43 Jägíar round while also having a longer barrel at 580mm and an overall length of 1,072mm. The rifle also uses short-stroke piston system rather then a direct impingement system.

So basically a long-barreled HK 416?

Basically although it does use a larger intermediate cartridge.

[Yukonastan]

So basically a long-barreled HK 416?

Basically although it does use a larger intermediate cartridge.

Heavy intermediates/light full-power cartridges *cough*7.2x48mm*cough* are always good in my book.

[Ragnarum]

Question; would it be worth keeping heavy barrels somewhere and full auto mode on a designated marksman rifle so you have an extra support weapon or am I just otherthinking?

[Black Hand]

Question; would it be worth keeping heavy barrels somewhere and full auto mode on a designated marksman rifle so you have an extra support weapon or am I just otherthinking?

Heavier barrels just mean increased cost and weight, no other negatives. you get increased barrel life, increased heat resistance and superior accuracy.

as for retaining fully automatic fire, it doesn't hurt the rifle. it only would have a downfall if the wielder used it in an ineffective manner. I can think of a few scenarios where accurate fire would be less valued than automatic suppressive fire (it is also highly dependent on your other weapons)

I've made the argument for combined IAR/DMR's before

[Ragnarum]

Question; would it be worth keeping heavy barrels somewhere and full auto mode on a designated marksman rifle so you have an extra support weapon or am I just otherthinking?

Heavier barrels just mean increased cost and weight, no other negatives. you get increased barrel life, increased heat resistance and superior accuracy.

as for retaining fully automatic fire, it doesn't hurt the rifle. it only would have a downfall if the wielder used it in an ineffective manner. I can think of a few scenarios where accurate fire would be less valued than automatic suppressive fire (it is also highly dependent on your other weapons)

I imagine there where not many complaints about the Bren gun and that thing was very accurate for its role as an LMG. Basic trigger discipline would solve the potential problems of full auto.

[Yukonastan]

Question; would it be worth keeping heavy barrels somewhere and full auto mode on a designated marksman rifle so you have an extra support weapon or am I just otherthinking?

You have to lug 'em around, but that's about it. You have more stability, better heatsinking, and as mentioned elsewhere, better barrel life as a result.

As for automatic fire, always wise to have around. Even if you issue your DMRs with "reverse" selectors (ie semi is where auto is on service rifle and vice versa, this is of course assuming that your DMR is an accurized service rifle and you teach aimed automatic bursts to your riflemen), it's better to keep automatic for SHTF moments.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Well a helmet integrated UV flashlight might be handy.

On, no doubt. I could see it being quite useful for night ops and the like. I was just asking if they did anything else. The pictures Google images turns up are fairly cool looking, if confusing.

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Heavy intermediates/light full-power cartridges *cough*7.2x48mm*cough* are always good in my book.

7x33mm Arch or gtfo.

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Heavier barrels just mean increased cost and weight, no other negatives. you get increased barrel life, increased heat resistance and superior accuracy.

as for retaining fully automatic fire, it doesn't hurt the rifle. it only would have a downfall if the wielder used it in an ineffective manner. I can think of a few scenarios where accurate fire would be less valued than automatic suppressive fire (it is also highly dependent on your other weapons)

I've made the argument for combined IAR/DMR's before

All of this.

To be honest though, I use assault rifles with optics and bipods for DMRs instead. Something about 2450 RpM bursts sounds more conducive to long range marksmanship than the slow slog of 700 RpM.

[Novorden]

Updated:

Standard Rifle with: 25 round mag, 500mm barrel, EOTech sights.
Light Support Weapon with: 50 round casket mag, 750mm HBAR barrel, 4x adjustable sights
Marksman Rifle with: 15 round mag, 800mm barrel, 8x ajustable scope

[Imperializt Russia]

In theory, the Doberman's automatic rifle and DMR variants are the same weapon, but with different trigger groups. The DMR is meant to have specialist barrel construction and funky rifling, but I'll probably drop that and make them, basically, the same weapon.

Marketing and shit.

DAMMIT BRIT, WHAT DID I TELL YOU
<3

[Novorden]

In theory, the Doberman's automatic rifle and DMR variants are the same weapon, but with different trigger groups. The DMR is meant to have specialist barrel construction and funky rifling, but I'll probably drop that and make them, basically, the same weapon.

Marketing and shit.

The only real difference between the LSW and marksman is the barrel.

DAMMIT BRIT, WHAT DID I TELL YOU
<3

Well you better get practicing then

[Bratislavskaya]

Is there any disadvantage to issuing the SSh-68M to my troops, as opposed to a more modern helmet? It still offers Class 1 ballistic protection (Russian class 1 I think, but I'm not sure), and I'm sure it's cheaper than a full on Kevlar Helmet.

[Bezombia]

Updated:
(Image)
Standard Rifle with: 25 round mag, 500mm barrel, EOTech sights.
Light Support Weapon with: 50 round casket mag, 750mm HBAR barrel, 4x adjustable sights
Marksman Rifle with: 15 round mag, 800mm barrel, 8x ajustable scope

I've been telling you this for years.
Stop making the rest of us look bad with your superior artwork!

[Yukonastan]

Updated:
(Image)
Standard Rifle with: 25 round mag, 500mm barrel, EOTech sights.
Light Support Weapon with: 50 round casket mag, 750mm HBAR barrel, 4x adjustable sights
Marksman Rifle with: 15 round mag, 800mm barrel, 8x ajustable scope

I've been telling you this for years.
Stop making the rest of us look bad with your superior artwork!

Likewise.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

I've been telling you this for years.
Stop making the rest of us look bad with your superior artwork!

ArchRifle says wut

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Does anyone remember the name of that exoskeleton type thing that used springs or some such to assist Tue wearer?

[Yukonastan]

I've been telling you this for years.
Stop making the rest of us look bad with your superior artwork!

ArchRifle says wut

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Does anyone remember the name of that exoskeleton type thing that used springs or some such to assist the wearer?

fix'd some grammar

I know of the one used for walking, that's the SpringWalker, that's legs only however.

Is that the one you mean?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

fix'd some grammar

What exactly did you fix?

I know of the one used for walking, that's the SpringWalker, that's legs only however.

Is that the one you mean?

Could be. All I remember is that someone jumped onto the thread a couple of months ago, claiming it was probably the best exoskeleton type deal available at the moment.

Nope, not it.

[Yukonastan]

fix'd some grammar

What exactly did you fix?

I know of the one used for walking, that's the SpringWalker, that's legs only however.

Is that the one you mean?

Could be. All I remember is that someone jumped onto the thread a couple of months ago, claiming it was probably the best exoskeleton type deal available at the moment.

Grepping this revision of the thread, twenty mentions. Either a suit of powered armor from New Visegrad, the Elysium EXO2, and the Russian EXOATHLET.
Nothing else, other than a hydraulic beast that the Army is supposedly testing. None of those are spring-powered, however.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Grepping this revision of the thread, twenty mentions. Either a suit of powered armor from New Visegrad, the Elysium EXO2, and the Russian EXOATHLET.
Nothing else, other than a hydraulic beast that the Army is supposedly testing. None of those are spring-powered, however.

Weird. Must've misremembered.

Thanks for the help Yuko.

[Immoren]

DAMMIT BRIT, WHAT DID I TELL YOU
<3

I am shipping these two and no-one can stop me.

[Yukonastan]

Grepping this revision of the thread, twenty mentions. Either a suit of powered armor from New Visegrad, the Elysium EXO2, and the Russian EXOATHLET.
Nothing else, other than a hydraulic beast that the Army is supposedly testing. None of those are spring-powered, however.

Weird. Must've misremembered.

Thanks for the help Yuko.

...assist Tue[<--- Right here.] wearer?