The NS Infantry Discussion Thread, Model 4

[San-Silvacian]

The US military until WW2 was pretty shitty.

Early WW2 was pretty shitty for WW2.

It wasn't just like when Pearl happened the US started killing Japs, Krauts and Ivan right off the bat.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

was meant to protect the wearer from the blinding flash of what was supposed to be a ludicrously powerful energy weapon. And probably useful against the other two billion blinding energy flashes one would typically see in an hour's fighting with a large Covenant invasion.

I imagine a similar design would be pretty decent at protecting the wearer from glare or damage from fragments or micrometeorites, while also providing inbuilt zoom, various 'vision modes' and drastically simplifying any form of HMD/HUD.

[The Caucasus Emirate]

Which AK varIant would be better than the 47 but cheaper than the AK-12
Something in the middle I guess

[Immoren]

Which AK varIant would be better than the 47 but cheaper than the AK-12
Something in the middle I guess

AK-74

[The balkens]

was meant to protect the wearer from the blinding flash of what was supposed to be a ludicrously powerful energy weapon. And probably useful against the other two billion blinding energy flashes one would typically see in an hour's fighting with a large Covenant invasion.

I imagine a similar design would be pretty decent at protecting the wearer from glare or damage from fragments or micrometeorites, while also providing inbuilt zoom, various 'vision modes' and drastically simplifying any form of HMD/HUD.

probably not in MT territory, eh?

Which AK varIant would be better than the 47 but cheaper than the AK-12
Something in the middle I guess

AK-74. all the glory of the AK in a cute little package.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

probably not in MT territory, eh?

Dunno. What do you figure "in a decade or two" to be? It'd probably be a spot further on than the standard MT, but not quite your average PMT either.

[The balkens]

probably not in MT territory, eh?

Dunno. What do you figure "in a decade or two" to be? It'd probably be a spot further on than the standard MT, but not quite your average PMT either.

Probably, if your R&D department is that good.

[Aqizithiuda]

probably not in MT territory, eh?

Dunno. What do you figure "in a decade or two" to be? It'd probably be a spot further on than the standard MT, but not quite your average PMT either.

NS MT.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

It's not even got to be that good. The helmet, for example, is essentially a mobile running one of those VR apps taped to your face. The main difference is that the cameras are better, and there are more of them. The suit itself would be a combination LCVG/Space Activity Suit with lightly armoured jumpsuit and cuirass on top. Also a PLSS, but I'm still looking at that.

Tooling around space is also fairly easy, if a tad expensive. Just pinch any of the dozens of workable concepts put forth, and resize it as necessary.

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NS MT.

No kidding, eh?

[Aqizithiuda]

It's not even got to be that good. The helmet, for example, is essentially a mobile running one of those VR apps taped to your face. The main difference is that the cameras are better, and there are more of them. The suit itself would be a combination LCVG/Space Activity Suit with lightly armoured jumpsuit and cuirass on top. Also a PLSS, but I'm still looking at that.

Tooling around space is also fairly easy, if a tad expensive. Just pinch any of the dozens of workable concepts put forth, and resize it as necessary.

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NS MT.

No kidding, eh?

NS loves being five minutes in the future .

[Imperializt Russia]

That's an oddly specific date. Are you like in a region that is set up that way?

Just to get a date going. It's always today forty years ago, unless I retcon it.
Edit:

Made these months ago, haha. Antitank guided missiles, that you'd find in a stationary defensive position. These are a Spriggan/Kornet and a TOW-2A, and are (unsurprisingly, see above) not used (or not widely used) within Yukonastan.

So to get the discussion going, what sort of ATGM does your infantry use?

Samozniy troops of the PSA use the CSW-12 Vampir as their standard medium ATGM. It is fitted to the T-108 Tsar Davida tank as a remotely-operated commander weapon and used by ATGM platoons and companies in Battalions and Regiments. It is fitted to a number of IFVs and some light helicopters.

It's essentially a MILAN-Javelin hybrid, however that was supposed to work. I used the MILAN for aesthetic reference, yet it was a smart weapon, fire-and-forget with top attack. There was also a low-cost wire-guided model.

This may be subject to retcon, one day.

Kasserine Pass.

Why did the US fuck up the situation as badly as they did?

Fredendall got most of the blame as a commander.

I think the main problem was fire support doctrine and training. The US made some improvements to its ability to call in and coordinate fire support (artillery and close air support), and in air defense artillery, particularly of artillery units (during Kasserine, many artillery units were repeatedly mauled by Luftwaffe air attacks, making providing effective fire support difficult).

Later in the war, the US Army was basically second to none in its ability to quickly concentrate huge amounts of artillery fires on a target. This was mostly due to their ability to produce and distribute radios and artillery firing tables. A lot of the early work done for military computers was for gun data computers, actually.

http://morrisswett.contentdm.oclc.org/c ... 497/rec/13

Here's a good article on the US field artillery in Africa, after Kasserine.

Apart from Russia

Which AK varIant would be better than the 47 but cheaper than the AK-12
Something in the middle I guess

You could find a reason to retain the 7.62x39mm cartridge and adopt the AKM, or possibly the AK-103. The AK-103 will be somewhat more expensive than an AKM or AK-74, but probably cheaper than an AK-12.

It's not even got to be that good. The helmet, for example, is essentially a mobile running one of those VR apps taped to your face. The main difference is that the cameras are better, and there are more of them. The suit itself would be a combination LCVG/Space Activity Suit with lightly armoured jumpsuit and cuirass on top. Also a PLSS, but I'm still looking at that.

Tooling around space is also fairly easy, if a tad expensive. Just pinch any of the dozens of workable concepts put forth, and resize it as necessary.

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No kidding, eh?

NS loves being five minutes in the future .

"What's this? Proof-of-concept testing, you say? Close enough, in mass service."

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

NS loves being five minutes in the future .

That it most certainly does.

To be fair though, I'm doing my damnedest to keep this as MT as possible. That, of course, means that the first ArchSpessMuhrine will likely be an unwelcome additional to a Mars Direct type of thing, as opposed to Orion battleship fleets.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

NS loves being five minutes in the future .

That it most certainly does.

To be fair though, I'm doing my damnedest to keep this as MT as possible. That, of course, means that the first ArchSpessMuhrine will likely be an unwelcome additional to a Mars Direct type of thing, as opposed to Orion battleship fleets.

RAD. SICK. SAVAGE.
I was basically doing a similar thing to the whole 'armoured visor full of sensors, screens, and steel' thing, except that it was going to be a flip-down jobbie, to deploy when SHTF mid-patrol, and you need that extra inch of steel/titanium/carbyne in front of your ocular spheres.
In my opinion, it could totes definitely be implemented within the constraints of MT, because, as you said, It's basically an armoured oculus rift, but displaying the stitched-together input of a couple of cameras, as well as a small HUD.

(Oh Thursday-weirdness, you trickster you.)

[Kouralia]

What sort of ceremonial guards are mounted by your nation's infantry, what do they guard, what uniforms do they wear when doing them, and what actions are they allowed to take in the event of twattery by the General Public/an Attack?

The Kouralian Army mounts a range of guards around the nation at royal residences, courtesy of the Permanent Guard Brigade, which consists of two Cavalry Regiments, an Artillery Regiment and five Infantry Battalions (predominantly of the Guard Regiments - The Royal Guards, the Chietan Guard Rifles and the Silverfin Guard Commandos). As an example of who does what, at the main Royal Palace (a star fort with a palace contained within its walls):

• A full Battalion of infantry mounts guards on the walls, at the gates, at the barracks key locations (e.g. the guard room/gates of the barracks), at the palace itself (on the front doors etc.) and at key locations on the island (the 'Diplomatic' or 'Embassy' Quarter of the Capital) that the palace is on.
• Only a troop of Cavalry mounts the guard: at the barracks gates, at the head of the road through the park to the Palace, half way down it, and at the palace-end of the road.
• Most 'fortified' Royal palaces (i.e. those which are castles or forts, not 'proper palaces') have a one o'clock gun. The Main fortress, being a star fortress, has sixteen. These are placed around the walls and fire a blank shell once at one o'clock in the afternoon every day (feast days which necessitate silence/calm not included). Each gun is crewed by four men daily, and the Artillery mounts additional sentries around the fortress and barracks.

They normally wear their Full Dress, if their regiment has the appropriate class of dress, else they will wear #1 Temperate or #3 Tropical Ceremonial Dress. With this, all cavalrymen carry a license-made Anemosian ASP .455 pistol holstered along with the relevant Officer/NCO/Trooper's sword, usually resting on their shoulder. All Infantry Officers on duty will carry similar kit - the infantry officer's broad-sword with a holstered pistol and a bayonet sheathed. Enlisted Infantry and Artillery soldiers carry the ceremonial rifle of the Kouralian Army, a wooden-furnished select-fire .280 weapon which is naturally cared for far more than the soldiers would like with a fixed mirror-finish bayonet.

In the event that someone interferes with them on duty, they have a number of actions to take. If attacked with extreme force they are allowed to immediately engage to lethal effect, same as if they spotted someone sufficiently threatening the life of a civilian. Otherwise they are expected to follow a five-step process:

• 1) Come to attention and shout a warning (e.g. 'step away from the fence!' or 'Do not climb the fence!' or 'Stop trying to take pictures up his kilt!'
• 2) The same, but the weapon is changed shoulders to the left shoulder and remains so until the threat/annoyance has passed.
• 3) The same, but once the weapon has changed shoulders, the right hand grips the pistol grip and the left is transitioned from the butt-stock to the furniture. The weapon is then brought down to the 'en garde' position, held at waist height pointing toward the threat with the soldier standing half-side-on toward the threat. The warning is repeated.
• 4) The same, but the weapon is cocked as well.
• 5) The now-cocked weapon is brought to the shoulder. If this stage is reached then it will almost always immediately precede an arrest of the offending party.

There is no hard and fast rule for what requires what stage - for example, immediate procession to stage 4/5 will occur if the guard at the door to the palace spots a civilian walking around the gardens with a fire-arm, while a stage 3 will occur if a guard patrolling the palace gardens spots someone who is clearly not meant to be there, but is unarmed. It is up to the discretion of the guard in question as to whether or not they go to, or from, different stages.

[Spreewerke]

Which AK varIant would be better than the 47 but cheaper than the AK-12
Something in the middle I guess

AK-74

'103.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

RAD. SICK. SAVAGE.

Not sure if legit or having me on. . .

I was basically doing a similar thing to the whole 'armoured visor full of sensors, screens, and steel' thing, except that it was going to be a flip-down jobbie, to deploy when SHTF mid-patrol, and you need that extra inch of steel/titanium/carbyne in front of your ocular spheres.

I could see that working. I've always considered it a better idea to keep the visor permanently mounted though. I imagine it'd keep the helmet simpler overall, and probably more durable. Too, I'd imagine information provided by the HMD would be rather handy even outside a SHTF type deal.

In my opinion, it could totes definitely be implemented within the constraints of MT, because, as you said, It's basically an armoured oculus rift, but displaying the stitched-together input of a couple of cameras, as well as a small HUD.

My thoughts exactly. The only real question is of how much capability can be wedged into a few centimeters of metal on the front of your face.

[Imperializt Russia]

It's not exactly going to give you a bulletproof face. Not without a shitload of steel - enough to snap your neck if you happen to jolt your head. Or nod, or whatever.

It'll give you some pretty awesome splinter protection, blindness protection and dust protection mind.

[Purpelia]

If you want to protect your soldiers from being blinded and you have FT grade visors why do you need to make the thing not be transparent? Seriously. Your average FT visor has a HUD which means it's basically a transparent computer monitor. So all you need is a photo sensor that detects abnormally high intensity flashes and a subroutine that paints the screen opaque either by painting it so that the color of the light in question does not pass or by creating a very thin physical barrier when this happens.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

It's not exactly going to give you a bulletproof face. Not without a shitload of steel - enough to snap your neck if you happen to jolt your head. Or nod, or whatever.

It'll give you some pretty awesome splinter protection, blindness protection and dust protection mind.

That's about all I wanted from it. Oh, don't neglect the hearing protection.

Would there be a point to adding a multi spectral camera to said helmet?

[Imperializt Russia]

It's not exactly going to give you a bulletproof face. Not without a shitload of steel - enough to snap your neck if you happen to jolt your head. Or nod, or whatever.

It'll give you some pretty awesome splinter protection, blindness protection and dust protection mind.

That's about all I wanted from it. Oh, don't neglect the hearing protection.

Would there be a point to adding a multi spectral camera to said helmet?

We're already giving them a screen for a face.
Why not add IRNV capability?

[Purpelia]

That's about all I wanted from it. Oh, don't neglect the hearing protection.

Would there be a point to adding a multi spectral camera to said helmet?

We're already giving them a screen for a face.
Why not add IRNV capability?

Forget that. False color imaging + IR + UV.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

We're already giving them a screen for a face.
Why not add IRNV capability?

Ptetty much.

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Forget that. False color imaging + IR + UV.

That's what I was thinking initially. I'm just not sure what purpose the false colour and UV would serve.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

It's not exactly going to give you a bulletproof face. Not without a shitload of steel - enough to snap your neck if you happen to jolt your head. Or nod, or whatever.

[carbyne intensifies]
Although, now that you mention it, even if your visor manages to stop the bullet and save your face, your neck mightn't be too happy about all that kinetic energy being transferred to your head.

It'll give you some pretty awesome splinter protection, blindness protection and dust protection mind.

Yeah, I'm mostly in it to counter the shrapnel that would tear through a normal pair of polycarbonate specs.

Not sure if legit or having me on. . .

Legit enthusiasm for fine-ass gear.

I've always considered it a better idea to keep the visor permanently mounted though. I imagine it'd keep the helmet simpler overall, and probably more durable. Too, I'd imagine information provided by the HMD would be rather handy even outside a SHTF type deal.

Well, I'm thinking of a see-through, goggle-type-thing with the HUD built into it (kind of like an F-35 helmet, mixed with BAE's new HMD), and then the hardened visor with the cameras and LCD display flips down over it.
So they can view and utilise the HUD whether the visor is up or down.
The main reason for me implementing a flip-visor would be that ~6 cameras and a full-colour LCD display are pretty hard on the old batteries, and you can't see through the screen when you switch it off, because buried inside a plate of hard-armour.

That's what I was thinking initially. I'm just not sure what purpose the false colour and UV would serve.

Enhanced astronomical observation.

[Purpelia]

That's what I was thinking initially. I'm just not sure what purpose the false colour and UV would serve.

The ability to use "black" flashlights to illuminate areas properly as opposed to relying on IR or just amplifying what ever little ambient light there is.

[Imperializt Russia]

We're already giving them a screen for a face.
Why not add IRNV capability?

Ptetty much.

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Forget that. False color imaging + IR + UV.

That's what I was thinking initially. I'm just not sure what purpose the false colour and UV would serve.

Technically speaking, IR vision modes are usually false-colour.