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Who will be the next Master of Ceremonies for the new Infantry Discussion Thread?

Purpelia
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11%
Dread Lady Nanticana
5
8%
Aqizithiuda
6
10%
Transnapastain
6
10%
GEUTest
2
3%
Nirvash Type TheEND
15
24%
Kouralia
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29%
Assorted Sucrose Based Lifeforms
4
6%
 
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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:37 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Why use a bolt-action rifle as service rifle, especially in MT?

I don't. It's a PT service rifle from the 1890's (as its name sneakily suggests). But I am going to make a MT sniper rifle conversion any day now.

I'm guessing the pump thingy does something special or is it just there to look cool? :P
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:38 pm

Zeinbrad wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I don't. It's a PT service rifle from the 1890's (as its name sneakily suggests). But I am going to make a MT sniper rifle conversion any day now.

I'm guessing the pump thingy does something special or is it just there to look cool? :P

It's pump action.

So yeah, the pump is just there for aesthetic reasons.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:41 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:I'm guessing the pump thingy does something special or is it just there to look cool? :P

It's pump action.

So yeah, the pump is just there for aesthetic reasons.

Not quite. The pump action is there for reasons of rapid firing. My cavalry wanted something they could fire off as quickly as the old lever actions. And than infantry caught on to it and saw the potential of being able to volley fire without taking your eyes off the sights or your rifle off target. Naturally, this proved to be dubious in practice so my army immediately set out to find an alternative in what would become the submodel 19 semiautomatic. But that one took too long to develop and stuff so they got stuck with the 1890 right down and into WW2.
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:43 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:"In fact, my MT rifle, well PMT rifle actually has very little in terms of text attached to it."
You dun goof'd son.

No I did nott. The phrase "something something, well something something else" is short for "something something, well actually something something else".
PMT means Post-Modern Tech. Not Past/Modern Tech, fyi.
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:44 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:No I did nott. The phrase "something something, well something something else" is short for "something something, well actually something something else".
PMT means Post-Modern Tech. Not Past/Modern Tech, fyi.

Oh that. Yea, that's a typo. Although the rifle will remain in service in PMT as well so there is that. In fact, I imagine I'd still be using it in FT but with a laser stuck down the barrel or something!
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:46 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote: PMT means Post-Modern Tech. Not Past/Modern Tech, fyi.

Oh that. Yea, that's a typo. Although the rifle will remain in service in PMT as well so there is that. In fact, I imagine I'd still be using it in FT but with a laser stuck down the barrel or something!


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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:48 pm

Yukonastan wrote:I really want to hug you, but at the same time you kind of really scare me.

Well you are the guy with the puppy-soldiers. So the feeling is mutual. :)
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:49 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:I really want to hug you, but at the same time you kind of really scare me.

Well you are the guy with the puppy-soldiers. So the feeling is mutual. :)


I feel like I should quote this. Mind if I do?
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:51 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Well you are the guy with the puppy-soldiers. So the feeling is mutual. :)


I feel like I should quote this. Mind if I do?

Feel free.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:54 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
I feel like I should quote this. Mind if I do?

Feel free.

Thanks a lot man.

Wait...
You don't want anything in return?
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:56 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Feel free.

Thanks a lot man.

Wait...
You don't want anything in return?

Well if you ever want to have someone shoot at your wolf men I volunteer. Speaking of that. Are you MT or PMT or FT or ????
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:00 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Thanks a lot man.

Wait...
You don't want anything in return?

Well if you ever want to have someone shoot at your wolf men I volunteer. Speaking of that. Are you MT or PMT or FT or ????

Pre-MT. September 3rd 1974 inside Yukonastan today.
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Postby Purpelia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:01 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Well if you ever want to have someone shoot at your wolf men I volunteer. Speaking of that. Are you MT or PMT or FT or ????

Pre-MT. September 3rd 1974 inside Yukonastan today.

That's an oddly specific date. Are you like in a region that is set up that way?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:04 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Pre-MT. September 3rd 1974 inside Yukonastan today.

That's an oddly specific date. Are you like in a region that is set up that way?

That's today/yesterday, but forty years ago.
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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:11 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Pre-MT. September 3rd 1974 inside Yukonastan today.

That's an oddly specific date. Are you like in a region that is set up that way?

Just to get a date going. It's always today forty years ago, unless I retcon it.
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Made these months ago, haha. Antitank guided missiles, that you'd find in a stationary defensive position. These are a Spriggan/Kornet and a TOW-2A, and are (unsurprisingly, see above) not used (or not widely used) within Yukonastan.

So to get the discussion going, what sort of ATGM does your infantry use?
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Postby Fordorsia » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:46 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's an oddly specific date. Are you like in a region that is set up that way?

Just to get a date going. It's always today forty years ago, unless I retcon it.
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Made these months ago, haha. Antitank guided missiles, that you'd find in a stationary defensive position. These are a Spriggan/Kornet and a TOW-2A, and are (unsurprisingly, see above) not used (or not widely used) within Yukonastan.

So to get the discussion going, what sort of ATGM does your infantry use?


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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 7:50 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:Just to get a date going. It's always today forty years ago, unless I retcon it.
Edit:
Image Image
Made these months ago, haha. Antitank guided missiles, that you'd find in a stationary defensive position. These are a Spriggan/Kornet and a TOW-2A, and are (unsurprisingly, see above) not used (or not widely used) within Yukonastan.

So to get the discussion going, what sort of ATGM does your infantry use?


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Not really, actually. I'm in 1974. TOW-2A is '87, and Spriggan is '94. Both are beyond my current time period.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:20 pm

you can get fagots though.
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Postby Balshvik » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:25 pm

Yukonastan , has wolf men soldiers. In my nation wolf is hunted down is a delicacy. So a big strong healthy wolf must taste good.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:33 pm

Balshvik wrote:Yukonastan , has wolf men soldiers. In my nation wolf is hunted down is a delicacy. So a big strong healthy wolf must taste good.

Older well exercised animals are often tough and chewy. WHile your society might have a different idea about delicacy and taste most would say that doesn't sound good.

Just a random side note.
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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:34 pm

Balshvik wrote:Yukonastan , has wolf men soldiers. In my nation wolf is hunted down is a delicacy. So a big strong healthy wolf must taste good.


these wolves carry machine guns

you sure you wanna do dis?

[/irrelevant]

Kasserine Pass, what exactly went wrong for the US there?
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Postby Balshvik » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:38 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Balshvik wrote:Yukonastan , has wolf men soldiers. In my nation wolf is hunted down is a delicacy. So a big strong healthy wolf must taste good.


these wolves carry machine guns

you sure you wanna do dis?

[/irrelevant]

Kasserine Pass, what exactly went wrong for the US there?

My Humans aka your people think as meat carry machine guns also
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Postby Yukonastan » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:41 pm

Kasserine Pass.

Why did the US fuck up the situation as badly as they did?
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:48 pm

Yukonastan wrote:Kasserine Pass.

Why did the US fuck up the situation as badly as they did?

I think this belongs in the realism thread.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:59 pm

Yukonastan wrote:Kasserine Pass.

Why did the US fuck up the situation as badly as they did?

Fredendall got most of the blame as a commander.

I think the main problem was fire support doctrine and training. The US made some improvements to its ability to call in and coordinate fire support (artillery and close air support), and in air defense artillery, particularly of artillery units (during Kasserine, many artillery units were repeatedly mauled by Luftwaffe air attacks, making providing effective fire support difficult).

Later in the war, the US Army was basically second to none in its ability to quickly concentrate huge amounts of artillery fires on a target. This was mostly due to their ability to produce and distribute radios and artillery firing tables. A lot of the early work done for military computers was for gun data computers, actually.

http://morrisswett.contentdm.oclc.org/c ... 497/rec/13

Here's a good article on the US field artillery in Africa, after Kasserine.
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