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Who will be the next Master of Ceremonies for the new Infantry Discussion Thread?

Purpelia
7
11%
Dread Lady Nanticana
5
8%
Aqizithiuda
6
10%
Transnapastain
6
10%
GEUTest
2
3%
Nirvash Type TheEND
15
24%
Kouralia
18
29%
Assorted Sucrose Based Lifeforms
4
6%
 
Total votes : 63

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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:17 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:Pfft. All you need is 1000 joules of muzzle energy to take out targets 400 meters away.

5.56mm: 1700 J
5.45mm: 1350 J

you people focus too much on killing people, killing power is not necessary in war


AK-74M/M16 can take someone out.
G3/FAL can kill someone.
Mosin can kill two people.
SVDK can kill someone twice.

Death is not binary. There is also a manpower intesive healing process involved.
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:18 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
AK-74M/M16 can take someone out.
G3/FAL can kill someone.
Mosin can kill two people.
SVDK can kill someone twice.

Death is not binary. There is also a manpower intesive healing process involved.


I don't know about that, if you're quick enough to someone with cardiac arrest, they may have clinically died for a minute. Then you blast 'em with voltage to revive 'em. Then they can die twice.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:20 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:Death is not binary. There is also a manpower intesive healing process involved.


I don't know about that, if you're quick enough to someone with cardiac arrest, they may have clinically died for a minute. Then you blast 'em with voltage to revive 'em. Then they can die twice.


No I mean when someone is shot by an SVDK they're killed, brought back to life, and then killed again just because of SVDKGLORY®
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:25 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
I don't know about that, if you're quick enough to someone with cardiac arrest, they may have clinically died for a minute. Then you blast 'em with voltage to revive 'em. Then they can die twice.


No I mean when someone is shot by an SVDK they're killed, brought back to life, and then killed again just because of SVDKGLORY®

:palm:
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NSIDT
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Founded: Jul 20, 2014
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Postby NSIDT » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:26 pm

If you want to injure people why not use those radically invasive projectiles in 10mm autos?

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EsToVnIa
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Postby EsToVnIa » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:26 pm

New Tsavon wrote:
Estovnia wrote:Battle of the derp

Who will win?

Whoever wins, we loose.


We all lose.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:28 pm

NSIDT wrote:If you want to injure people why not use those radically invasive projectiles in 10mm autos?


Because you can literally reproduce (and exceed!) the terminal performance of those things using a soft point .22LR pistol.
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:28 pm

NSIDT wrote:If you want to injure people why not use those radically invasive projectiles in 10mm autos?

Or Colt .45.
Or .22 LR.

In other news we all lose.
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New Tsavon
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Postby New Tsavon » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:35 pm

Bezombia wrote:No I mean when someone is shot by an SVDK they're killed, brought back to life, and then killed again just because of SVDKGLORY®

That's dumb, even by your standards.

Estovnia wrote:
New Tsavon wrote:Whoever wins, we loose.


We all lose.

We've already lost.
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Aqizithiuda
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Founded: Jun 28, 2012
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:08 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:My general infantry use medium velocity 6mm rounds. Those same rounds can be fired from a pistol.
My snipers and my machine gunners use high velocity 7mm.


Wait, you're main rifle fires a pistol cartridge?

...uh what's your time period?


It's really not that hard to do. The 5.7mm Johnson or .22 APG could both potentially fit into a rechambered Automag, and even the 5.7x28mm could serve as a viable carbine round if loaded to rifle pressures and a lead cored projectile, and we all know it will fit into a pistol.

I wouldn't call it an ideal solution - there are probably more negatives than positives - but it's still a viable solution for a given setting. The way it's employed here isn't a bad way to do so.
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Bezombia
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Postby Bezombia » Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:11 pm

That gives me an idea.

7.62x32mm Shipunov break-action revolver y/y/n?
Our weary eyes still stray to the horizon...but down this road we've been so many times...
Please, call me Benomia. Post count +14623, founded Oct. 23, 2012.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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The Peaceful Territories
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Founded: Feb 17, 2014
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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:36 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htG_a2bYI8

How about this, but strapped together to three other machine guns and fitted with a longer barrel? it would be a good urban-combat LMG.

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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:43 pm

The Peaceful Territories wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htG_a2bYI8

How about this, but strapped together to three other machine guns and fitted with a longer barrel? it would be a good urban-combat LMG.


I is of Brenneke or Yuko, not 22lr silly

To be serious, no. .22, while it has great terminal ballistics, sucks at penetrating armor. Which your enemy will probably be wearing.
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Soviet Keknya
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Founded: Aug 01, 2014
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Postby Soviet Keknya » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:52 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
I don't know about that, if you're quick enough to someone with cardiac arrest, they may have clinically died for a minute. Then you blast 'em with voltage to revive 'em. Then they can die twice.


No I mean when someone is shot by an SVDK they're killed, brought back to life, and then killed again just because of SVDKGLORY®


why do you suck putins deck so much? migt as well just use barret firty calibre like all other cod kid?

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The Peaceful Territories
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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:57 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
The Peaceful Territories wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3htG_a2bYI8

How about this, but strapped together to three other machine guns and fitted with a longer barrel? it would be a good urban-combat LMG.


I is of Brenneke or Yuko, not 22lr silly

To be serious, no. .22, while it has great terminal ballistics, sucks at penetrating armor. Which your enemy will probably be wearing.


It's just for suppressing people so they can't shoot back from their cover. They weapon is made for spraying and praying, so the arms and legs would get hit.

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Soviet Keknya
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Postby Soviet Keknya » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:59 pm

The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
I is of Brenneke or Yuko, not 22lr silly

To be serious, no. .22, while it has great terminal ballistics, sucks at penetrating armor. Which your enemy will probably be wearing.


It's just for suppressing people so they can't shoot back from their cover. They weapon is made for spraying and praying, so the arms and legs would get hit.


why ar you using a toy gun for mall ninja americans for anything but toy? why are you issuing 22 round for killing rabit to soldiers?

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The Peaceful Territories
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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:59 pm

Soviet Keknya wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
No I mean when someone is shot by an SVDK they're killed, brought back to life, and then killed again just because of SVDKGLORY®


why do you suck putins deck so much? migt as well just use barret firty calibre like all other cod kid?


Putin? Why not suck that of Glorious Mikhail Kalashnikov.

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Soviet Keknya
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Postby Soviet Keknya » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:01 pm

The Peaceful Territories wrote:
Soviet Keknya wrote:
why do you suck putins deck so much? migt as well just use barret firty calibre like all other cod kid?


Putin? Why not suck that of Glorious Mikhail Kalashnikov.


why suck russian deck at all? i dont understand all this stupd hype of russian being awesome. it is poor dictatorship country which only wins wars when enemy makes stupid mistakes. they were beten by JAPAN in the 1900s, before Japan even was a real power like in wwii

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The Peaceful Territories
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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:02 pm

Soviet Keknya wrote:
The Peaceful Territories wrote:
It's just for suppressing people so they can't shoot back from their cover. They weapon is made for spraying and praying, so the arms and legs would get hit.


why ar you using a toy gun for mall ninja americans for anything but toy? why are you issuing 22 round for killing rabit to soldiers?


Have you heard that the aim of war weapons is to maim, not kill? That's why .500 Be Your Wolf is meant for HRT's instead of U.S. Mareens.

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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:02 pm

Soviet Keknya wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
No I mean when someone is shot by an SVDK they're killed, brought back to life, and then killed again just because of SVDKGLORY®


why do you suck putins deck so much? migt as well just use barret firty calibre like all other cod kid?

dis gon be gud, beno getting slammed by a summer kiddie who obviously knows sooooo much more.

Which "barrer firty calibre" rifle are you referring to?

M82A1, M82A2, M82A3?
M95?
M99?
XM107?
M107A1?

Which one?
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EsToVnIa
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Postby EsToVnIa » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:04 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Soviet Keknya wrote:
why do you suck putins deck so much? migt as well just use barret firty calibre like all other cod kid?

dis gon be gud, beno getting slammed by a summer kiddie who obviously knows sooooo much more.

Which "barrer firty calibre" rifle are you referring to?

M82A1, M82A2, M82A3?
M95?
M99?
XM107?
M107A1?

Which one?


Beano was (and to extent still is) a "summer kiddie"

Image
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Weeaboo Gassing Land wrote:Also, rev up the gas chambers.

The United States of North Amerigo wrote:CUNT

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Yukonastan
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Postby Yukonastan » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:05 pm

Estovnia wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:dis gon be gud, beno getting slammed by a summer kiddie who obviously knows sooooo much more.

Which "barrer firty calibre" rifle are you referring to?

M82A1, M82A2, M82A3?
M95?
M99?
XM107?
M107A1?

Which one?


Beano was (and to extent still is) a "summer kiddie"

Image

To much less of an extent than the kid slamming him, however.
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this guy is a fucking furry and a therian
Btw, here's my IC flag

"Purp go to bed." - Nirvash Type TheEnd

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The Peaceful Territories
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Postby The Peaceful Territories » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:05 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Soviet Keknya wrote:
why do you suck putins deck so much? migt as well just use barret firty calibre like all other cod kid?

dis gon be gud, beno getting slammed by a summer kiddie who obviously knows sooooo much more.

Which "barrer firty calibre" rifle are you referring to?

M82A1, M82A2, M82A3?
M95?
M99?
XM107?
M107A1?

Which one?


He's talking about the M1 Browning with a telescope taped on top.

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EsToVnIa
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Postby EsToVnIa » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:06 pm

Yukonastan wrote:To much less of an extent than the kid slamming him, however.


Debatable.
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Weeaboo Gassing Land wrote:Also, rev up the gas chambers.

The United States of North Amerigo wrote:CUNT

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Romic
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Postby Romic » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:07 pm

Is there anything that like a MP5 and Scorpian love child around?

I like the astetics of the MP5 but the durability and compactness of the Scorpian
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