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The Kievan People
44
33%
Spirit of Hope
9
7%
Padnak
39
30%
Yukonastan
4
3%
Allanea
16
12%
Soodean Imperium
6
5%
Gallia-
14
11%
 
Total votes : 132

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Paddy O Fernature
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:26 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Its ok, I already made my save vs. spending money, I can't afford to buy it and still buy pizza in college. Pizza wins for now.

Pizza won't tell you how to nukeproof your apartment!


You just need a lead lined refrigerator. Which you can also use to store all that leftover pizza goodness.

*Nods*
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:27 am

Lithuania-Latvia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Has anyone informed you that half your things are physically illogical and the other half real life products that by GE&T standards anyone can produce by themselves?

Gee your a big help

Your two products that you can call your own consists of 99% weasel words. Meaningless fluff that's designed like an awful TV commercial. The rest of it are either RL things or ABC arms.
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Padnak
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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:28 am

Korouse wrote:F-111K

A Korousean version of the F-111C.


>:(
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San-Silvacian: Aug 11, 2011-Mar 20, 2015
Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.

Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.

Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.

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EsToVnIa
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Postby EsToVnIa » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:28 am

Padnak wrote:
Korouse wrote:F-111K

A Korousean version of the F-111C.


>:(


The F-111C is better.
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Padnak
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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:28 am

Padnak wrote:I'm looking around for new strike/bomber aircraft and I've got a couple candidates that I'd like some thoughts on:

Su-34?
Xian JH-7?

Padnak has very close relations with both China and Russia so acquisition wouldn't be the problem, I'm just wondering what people think of the two aircraft and which would be better?

I'm looking for a long range strike aircraft capable of carrying a wide range of weapons, including AShMs
(If someone says F-111C, I'll smash your teeth in)


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Have a sharp blade, and a sharper mind!
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San-Silvacian: Aug 11, 2011-Mar 20, 2015
Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.

Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.

Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.

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Spirit of Hope
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:29 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Its ok, I already made my save vs. spending money, I can't afford to buy it and still buy pizza in college. Pizza wins for now.

Pizza won't tell you how to nukeproof your apartment!

I already know how to nuke proof my apartment. It would however void my deposit, so instead I buy pizza and pray that Putin isn't insane.

Plus I live in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania no one is going to target where I live and I could avoid most of the radiation with a short drive.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:29 am

Korouse wrote:
Padnak wrote:I'm looking around for new strike/bomber aircraft and I've got a couple candidates that I'd like some thoughts on:

Su-34?
Xian JH-7?

Padnak has very close relations with both China and Russia so acquisition wouldn't be the problem, I'm just wondering what people think of the two aircraft and which would be better?

I'm looking for a long range strike aircraft capable of carrying a wide range of weapons, including AShMs
(If someone says F-111C, I'll smash your teeth in)

F-111K

A Korousean version of the F-111C.

Your -K existed on plans and in two half-finished airframes.
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Padnak
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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:30 am

[-_-]

I long for the day when I can ask a simple question without everyone failing to answer it
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Have a sharp blade, and a sharper mind!
Need weapons for dubious purposes? Buy Padarm today!
San-Silvacian: Aug 11, 2011-Mar 20, 2015
Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.

Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.

Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.

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Korouse
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Founded: Mar 10, 2014
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Postby Korouse » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:34 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Korouse wrote:F-111K

A Korousean version of the F-111C.

Your -K existed on plans.

Coincidence.
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Paddy O Fernature
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:34 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Pizza won't tell you how to nukeproof your apartment!

I already know how to nuke proof my apartment. It would however void my deposit, so instead I buy pizza and pray that Putin isn't insane.

Plus I live in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania no one is going to target where I live and I could avoid most of the radiation with a short drive.


Pennsylvania you say?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:35 am

Padnak wrote:[-_-]

I long for the day when I can ask a simple question without everyone failing to answer it

Su-34, because frankly the vanilla JH-7's radar sucks ass.

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Spirit of Hope
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:37 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:I already know how to nuke proof my apartment. It would however void my deposit, so instead I buy pizza and pray that Putin isn't insane.

Plus I live in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania no one is going to target where I live and I could avoid most of the radiation with a short drive.


Pennsylvania you say?

Yep, and where I currently live is outside all of the target zones. Huray!

That does increase radiation concerns for me though. Oh well.
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Paddy O Fernature
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:40 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Pennsylvania you say?

Yep, and where I currently live is outside all of the target zones. Huray!

That does increase radiation concerns for me though. Oh well.


Just remember, it could always be worse instead.

Proud Co-Founder of The Axis Commonwealth - Would you like to know more?
Mallorea and Riva should resign
SJW! Why? Some nobody on the internet who has never met me accused me of being one, so it absolutely MUST be true! *Nod Nod*

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Postby Lithuania-Latvia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:41 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Lithuania-Latvia wrote:Gee your a big help

Your two products that you can call your own consists of 99% weasel words. Meaningless fluff that's designed like an awful TV commercial. The rest of it are either RL things or ABC arms.

I'm just not going to listen to you
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Padnak
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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:42 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Su-34, because frankly the vanilla JH-7's radar sucks ass.


I see

What about the JH-7A, apparently it has improved radar-

With the Su-34, does anyone have any cost figures for it? I've heard its around 30 million an aircraft but I could be wrong-
"มีใบมีดคมและจิตใจที่คมชัด!"
Have a sharp blade, and a sharper mind!
Need weapons for dubious purposes? Buy Padarm today!
San-Silvacian: Aug 11, 2011-Mar 20, 2015
Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.

Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.

Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.

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Korouse
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Founded: Mar 10, 2014
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Postby Korouse » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:43 am

Lithuania-Latvia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Your two products that you can call your own consists of 99% weasel words. Meaningless fluff that's designed like an awful TV commercial. The rest of it are either RL things or ABC arms.

I'm just not going to listen to you

They get more and more tolerable as you talk to them.
"Everything is illusory except power,' the revolutionary people reply." - Vladimir Lenin

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Padnak
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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:44 am

Korouse wrote:They get more and more tolerable as you talk to them.


It helps if you come in with a bit of sense to begin with
"มีใบมีดคมและจิตใจที่คมชัด!"
Have a sharp blade, and a sharper mind!
Need weapons for dubious purposes? Buy Padarm today!
San-Silvacian: Aug 11, 2011-Mar 20, 2015
Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.

Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.

Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.

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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:47 am

Anyone mind giving thoughts on the current organization of this fleet? If possible.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/cpkeyes/Gladiusfleet_zps5fb0ba00.png
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Paddy O Fernature
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:47 am

Padnak wrote:
Korouse wrote:They get more and more tolerable as you talk to them.


It helps if you come in with a bit of sense to begin with


Or just don't be arrogant right out the gate, and realize that you're going to get criticism when asking for opinions.

*nods*

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Postby Padnak » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:48 am

Zeinbrad wrote:Anyone mind giving thoughts on the current organization of this fleet? If possible.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/cpkeyes/Gladiusfleet_zps5fb0ba00.png


I'd increase the number of escorts myself and possibly introduce a smaller space missile boat type thing (for lack of a better word)
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Have a sharp blade, and a sharper mind!
Need weapons for dubious purposes? Buy Padarm today!
San-Silvacian: Aug 11, 2011-Mar 20, 2015
Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.

Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.

Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.

Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.

The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.

Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.

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Paddy O Fernature
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Founded: Sep 30, 2010
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:49 am

Zeinbrad wrote:Anyone mind giving thoughts on the current organization of this fleet? If possible.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/cpkeyes/Gladiusfleet_zps5fb0ba00.png


Looks ok. Though it's really blurry.

Proud Co-Founder of The Axis Commonwealth - Would you like to know more?
Mallorea and Riva should resign
SJW! Why? Some nobody on the internet who has never met me accused me of being one, so it absolutely MUST be true! *Nod Nod*

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Imperializt Russia
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Pizza won't tell you how to nukeproof your apartment!

I already know how to nuke proof my apartment. It would however void my deposit, so instead I buy pizza and pray that Putin isn't insane.

Plus I live in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania no one is going to target where I live and I could avoid most of the radiation with a short drive.

If you refer back to the fallout map, it kind of obscures Pennsylvania under a 300-1050 rad plume :P
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Yep, and where I currently live is outside all of the target zones. Huray!

That does increase radiation concerns for me though. Oh well.


Just remember, it could always be worse instead.

That is kind of his problem, really :lol:
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Your two products that you can call your own consists of 99% weasel words. Meaningless fluff that's designed like an awful TV commercial. The rest of it are either RL things or ABC arms.

I'm just not going to listen to you

Then how will you improve?
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Proskoya
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Postby Proskoya » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:52 am

Proskoya wrote:
Anyways, to promote a different discussion ... If my nation has a 1.5 year mandatory male conscription policy, at what rate should conscripts rank up, if at all? I plan on there being a voluntary and conscript force; the volunteers being better equipped and a smaller more maneuverable unit, while conscripts form the larger part of my forces. I do expect commissioned volunteers to lead the conscripts as well as the volunteer force. I would think that the COs get their feet wet while leading conscripts and then are transferred over to command more trained units when they've got some experience.

As far as being an enlisted conscript goes, should they be able to be team leaders towards the end of the conscription?

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:53 am

Lithuania-Latvia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Your two products that you can call your own consists of 99% weasel words. Meaningless fluff that's designed like an awful TV commercial. The rest of it are either RL things or ABC arms.

I'm just not going to listen to you

Alright, let's try this then.
...more reliable, more manueverability, faster, and deadlier than the F22,... higher quality thrust vectoring... the F37 also has a highly advanced and very high power radar on board... giving extended range allowing for even higher efficiency in combat.

How is it more reliable, more manoeuverable, faster and deadlier?
How is the thrust vectoring nozzle of higher quality?
How is the radar highly advanced and very high powered?
How is it more efficient than an F-22?

Padnak, according to my sources JH-7's JL-10A set is a tad behind the F-16's APG-66 non-AESA radars. Meanwhile you can install Irbis-E on the Su-34 since it's pretty much all the same Flanker body.
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Zeinbrad
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Postby Zeinbrad » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:55 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Anyone mind giving thoughts on the current organization of this fleet? If possible.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/cpkeyes/Gladiusfleet_zps5fb0ba00.png


Looks ok. Though it's really blurry.

I don't know why.

Also, if you couldn't tell. The ships are not made by me, I can't draw ships yet. They belong to the guys I credited.
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The first way is to be kind.
The second way is to be kind.
The third way is to be kind.”
― Fred Rogers
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