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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed May 28, 2014 10:26 am

Questers wrote:i may or may not have consumed amphetamines on one or more occasions.

if i did, what would have happened is that i would have started at 1pm, began playing hearts of iron 2, blinked and it was 8pm, and then I would refuse all food because i wasnt hungry, even to the moment I went to sleep 42 hours later. If I had taken them, I mean. Which I may or may not have done.

Honestly there are better alternatives now. I have a source that talks about a DARPA study that got 80 hours of combat performance from a newer drug. No addiction, main problem was apparently nausea.
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Postby Yukonastan » Wed May 28, 2014 10:43 am

Questers wrote:i may or may not have consumed amphetamines on one or more occasions.

if i did, what would have happened is that i would have started at 1pm, began playing hearts of iron 2, blinked and it was 8pm, and then I would refuse all food because i wasn't hungry, even to the moment I went to sleep 42 hours later. If I had taken them, I mean. Which I may or may not have done.


Now the question is, considering the possibility that you took amfetamines, what was the dose? 'Cause I take 20mg of lisdexamfetamine every day in the morning, and I don't stay up for 42 hours straight. More like 10 or 12. I do have to say that it works, however.
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Postby Gallia- » Wed May 28, 2014 10:48 am

The Kievan People wrote:And they didn't before...?

The percentage of industry involved in defense-related activities in the U.S. has been going steadily down since WWII, when everyone really was involved.


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Postby Purpelia » Wed May 28, 2014 11:07 am

Does anyone have any idea about how large the shells and cases should be for a 63mm version of the Zis-5?
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Postby Kouralia » Wed May 28, 2014 11:47 am

Do I need a full Recce Regiment at Brigade level, or just a squadron?
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Postby Immoren » Wed May 28, 2014 11:51 am

Kouralia wrote:Do I need a full Recce Regiment at Brigade level, or just a squadron?


Which ever way you want to do it. :p
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed May 28, 2014 11:54 am

Go reconnoitre the shit out of your enemies with a fully-supported reconnaissance unit.
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Postby Mitheldalond » Wed May 28, 2014 12:08 pm

Does anyone know the minimum range of a Trident II SLBM?

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Postby Rich and Corporations » Wed May 28, 2014 12:10 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:Does anyone know the minimum range of a Trident II SLBM?

When it becomes a cruise missile.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed May 28, 2014 12:25 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:Does anyone know the minimum range of a Trident II SLBM?

Probably classified.
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Postby Crookfur » Wed May 28, 2014 12:33 pm

Kouralia wrote:Do I need a full Recce Regiment at Brigade level, or just a squadron?


Its depends would it just be based on a single main vehicle type or would it be the whole integrated recce team ala CVR(T)( i.e. direct recce AFVs (scorp+scimitar) plus APCs with recce dismounts (spartan) plus ATGMs (striker))

if its option a then yeah a single squadron is likely enough but if option b go the full hog with a fully fleshed out regiment.

Also consider how you feel on the matter.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed May 28, 2014 12:57 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Do I need a full Recce Regiment at Brigade level, or just a squadron?


Its depends would it just be based on a single main vehicle type or would it be the whole integrated recce team ala CVR(T)( i.e. direct recce AFVs (scorp+scimitar) plus APCs with recce dismounts (spartan) plus ATGMs (striker))

if its option a then yeah a single squadron is likely enough but if option b go the full hog with a fully fleshed out regiment.

Also consider how you feel on the matter.

Okay, I'll probably do the full Regiment then. Like four of these squadrons, and then a Command squadron with an ATGM Troop and the usual stuff.

EDIT: I have space for one extra vehicle at Company Level in an Armoured Infantry Battalion, is a single AMOS 120mm a bad idea?
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed May 28, 2014 1:41 pm

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Add a column to the far right which displays the figures as a percentage of the total military budget, for scaling purposes. The figures for the Army at least look like some order of magnitude applied to the US' 2013 DoD budget, so they're probably not unreasonable.


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Postby Questers » Wed May 28, 2014 6:39 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Questers wrote:i may or may not have consumed amphetamines on one or more occasions.

if i did, what would have happened is that i would have started at 1pm, began playing hearts of iron 2, blinked and it was 8pm, and then I would refuse all food because i wasn't hungry, even to the moment I went to sleep 42 hours later. If I had taken them, I mean. Which I may or may not have done.


Now the question is, considering the possibility that you took amfetamines, what was the dose? 'Cause I take 20mg of lisdexamfetamine every day in the morning, and I don't stay up for 42 hours straight. More like 10 or 12. I do have to say that it works, however.
Yeah why though, because I wake up at 8am every day and go to bed at 1-2am and I don't take amfetamines regularly. Do you have a sleep disorder?

The dose? Lol. It came in a gloopy mess in a bag. You took a bit out - had the texture similar to chewed chewing gum - and wrap it in a cigarette rolling paper then swallow. I don't know what the dose was.
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Postby Questers » Wed May 28, 2014 6:39 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
Its depends would it just be based on a single main vehicle type or would it be the whole integrated recce team ala CVR(T)( i.e. direct recce AFVs (scorp+scimitar) plus APCs with recce dismounts (spartan) plus ATGMs (striker))

if its option a then yeah a single squadron is likely enough but if option b go the full hog with a fully fleshed out regiment.

Also consider how you feel on the matter.

Okay, I'll probably do the full Regiment then. Like four of these squadrons, and then a Command squadron with an ATGM Troop and the usual stuff.

EDIT: I have space for one extra vehicle at Company Level in an Armoured Infantry Battalion, is a single AMOS 120mm a bad idea?
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Postby Anemos Major » Wed May 28, 2014 7:20 pm

go figure, I miss the one day they put AFVs on Horse Guards Parade

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Postby The Kievan People » Wed May 28, 2014 10:16 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:Does anyone know the minimum range of a Trident II SLBM?


2000km is a good ballpark figure. Probably.

Because the Trident is a solid fuel rocket the only thing that can be said for sure is "long".
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Postby Questers » Wed May 28, 2014 11:42 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:Does anyone know the minimum range of a Trident II SLBM?


2000km is a good ballpark figure. Probably.

Because the Trident is a solid fuel rocket the only thing that can be said for sure is "long".
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Postby Triplebaconation » Wed May 28, 2014 11:57 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:Does anyone know the minimum range of a Trident II SLBM?


2000km is a good ballpark figure. Probably.

Because the Trident is a solid fuel rocket the only thing that can be said for sure is "long".


Accuracy will be crap though. :(
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Postby Kouralia » Thu May 29, 2014 3:01 am

Questers wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Okay, I'll probably do the full Regiment then. Like four of these squadrons, and then a Command squadron with an ATGM Troop and the usual stuff.

EDIT: I have space for one extra vehicle at Company Level in an Armoured Infantry Battalion, is a single AMOS 120mm a bad idea?
a high res version of this would be great.

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Postby Aelarus » Fri May 30, 2014 9:57 am

I have a quick question for those here:
Do you think a Gau-8 would set off Kontakt armor when firing at it?

I was having a discussion with a friend about it and was wondering if that was true or not. :p
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri May 30, 2014 9:58 am

Aelarus wrote:I have a quick question for those here:
Do you think a Gau-8 would set off Kontakt armor when firing at it?

I was having a discussion with a friend about it and was wondering if that was true or not. :p


No.

Shells are too slow to trigger Kontakt-5.
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Postby Aelarus » Fri May 30, 2014 10:02 am

The Kievan People wrote:No.

Shells are too slow to trigger Kontakt-5.
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Postby Yukonastan » Fri May 30, 2014 10:12 am

Triplebaconation wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
2000km is a good ballpark figure. Probably.

Because the Trident is a solid fuel rocket the only thing that can be said for sure is "long".


Accuracy will be crap though. :(


The trident 2 has a maximum range of 7840KM when fully loaded. When downloaded that potentially grows to 11300KM based on what we know about it.
Being inertially guided three-stage, I see no reason why it could be compensated for planetary spin and nuke its own launch point, giving it a VERY short minimum range of 90-120m. Obviously you'd launch it up, then dive and run.
The accuracy of it is actually not that bad, about 90-120m CEP. That's good enough to land within an average city block or two.
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