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by Zeinbrad » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:48 pm
by Korouse » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:49 pm
Zeinbrad wrote:Would two companies of security be good enough for a regiment of infantry with a armored company?
by Zeinbrad » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:51 pm
by Triplebaconation » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:58 pm
Roski wrote:
Not for ground warfare, no.
But I found this:
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_displ ... d=337&ct=2
by Padnak » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:00 pm
Inquilabstan wrote:It is official now. Padnak is really Cobra Commander.
Bezombia wrote:It was about this time that Padnak slowly realized that the thread he thought was about gaming was, in fact, an eight story tall crustacean from the protozoic era.
Husseinarti wrote:Powered Borscht.
Because cosmonauts should never think that even in the depths of space they are free from the Soviet Union.
The Kievan People wrote:As usual, this is Padnak's fault, but we need to move on.
Immoren wrote:Again we've sexual tension that can be cut with a bowie.
by United Earthlings » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:22 pm
New Vihenia wrote:If this is 1950's with old Sidewinder using Lead Sulfide element seeker.. Prop fighter might be almost invisible because PbS sensing element is practically blind to anything colder than jet pipe.
But now.. It's the era of HgCdTe and InSb.. IR seeker can now "see" Aircraft's body, not necessarily need to aim for exhaust. So prop plane is in danger too.
In the future i'd expect multi-layered bandgap detector or QWIP that can work in both Short wave IR and Mid Wave.. Maybe Long wave too, without cooling 4 overkill.
by Zeinbrad » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:26 pm
by Vancon » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:35 pm
Mike the Progressive wrote:You know I don't say this often, but this guy... he gets it. Like everything. As in he gets life.
Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.
Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour
Shyluz wrote:Van, Sci-fi Generallisimo
by Triplebaconation » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:52 pm
United Earthlings wrote:An amendment to my early post that got quoted about the IR signature of Prop Fighters.New Vihenia wrote:If this is 1950's with old Sidewinder using Lead Sulfide element seeker.. Prop fighter might be almost invisible because PbS sensing element is practically blind to anything colder than jet pipe.
But now.. It's the era of HgCdTe and InSb.. IR seeker can now "see" Aircraft's body, not necessarily need to aim for exhaust. So prop plane is in danger too.
In the future i'd expect multi-layered bandgap detector or QWIP that can work in both Short wave IR and Mid Wave.. Maybe Long wave too, without cooling 4 overkill.
While, all that is true, a few things I should have elaborated on, but didn’t.
[list=A][*] Not all RP military powers are going to be using the latest and best toys nor probably knowing how to employ those toys in the most tactically efficient manner.
[*]Does anyone disagree with the statement that a jet turbine engine will radiate a much bigger heat signature then a turboprop one? Combined, that with the use of flares at the right moment and that gives a nice advantage to the prop fighter especially with its better turning ability.
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:53 pm
Crookfur wrote:Gallia- wrote:
charge of the light brigade brought much needed glory and honour to the 11th hsusars and whatever shit units followed them
The thing is the issues that occured in the crimean war as a result of the long peace and and purchasing of commisions were nothign comapred to the hideous issues that occured in india as a result of promotion due to seniority and a similar long peace. Without the purchase system and a regular culling of officers a seniority only system results in a lot of old and unexpereinced officers across all ranks. The british purchase system allowed older officers a useful way to cash out into retirement.
The british pruchase system was no where near as terrible as people make out, it was heavily seniority based and any role that required any real technical/professional training was excluded from the system. Also in time of war it allowed a fairly rapid method of letting chair bound and cowardly officers get out from everyone else's feet. Plus it made perfect sense compared msot of the other mechanisms in palce across the world at the time.
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by Rich and Corporations » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:53 pm
Questers wrote:There were some not insubstantial problems with the 140-mm guns that weren't fixed before they were abandoned.San-Silvacian wrote:140mm guns were becoming a real thing towards the end of the Cold War.
All the major NATO powers have or had 140mm gun test beds (The AMX Leclerc was built to have a 140mm dropped in when, if, the transition from 120mm to 140mm happens IRL, US still operates its 140mm M1 testbed, Germany has theirs in storage because 2poor.)
Russians dropped in a 152mm gun into a T-80 testbed and planned for 152mm armed whatever T-9X series blah blah black eagle tankus.
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:23 pm
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by Triplebaconation » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:32 pm
by Mitheldalond » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:33 pm
Triplebaconation wrote:140mm guns were abandoned when the engineers read about the 7m rule.
by Vitaphone Racing » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:33 pm
Parhe wrote:Guess what, maybe you don't know what it is like to be Asian.
by Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:44 pm
Two things.
1. 140mm 55 caliber breaks the 7 meter rule, meaning that a tank cannot accurately (with any real accuracy beyond right in front of the barrel) fire on the move. It is okay to break it by like 40mm, but much more and it will be useless on the move. 140mm 50 caliber would work fine.
2. 140mm guns aren't really needed to deal with modern (RL like the Type-99) tanks, and it looks like south korea may go for ETC instead of a bigger bore gun for the K2 PIP (product improvement pack, think of it like the Mk II).
Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War
Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:If there was only a "like" button for NS posts....
by Inyourfaceistan » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:53 pm
Triplebaconation wrote:140mm guns were abandoned when the engineers read about the 7m rule.
by Mitheldalond » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:11 pm
by The Kievan People » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:19 pm
by Vancon » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:20 pm
The Kievan People wrote:The 7 metre rule is overstated. Think of it as a guideline, not a law.
Mike the Progressive wrote:You know I don't say this often, but this guy... he gets it. Like everything. As in he gets life.
Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.
Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour
Shyluz wrote:Van, Sci-fi Generallisimo
by New Vihenia » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:30 pm
by Mitheldalond » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:42 pm
by The Soodean Imperium » Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:55 pm
Mitheldalond wrote:I'm thinking of making a warship based on the Maltese Falcon yacht. Probably something like a Coast Guard cutter or a patrol boat, not a front line warship like a cruiser or destroyer.
Main user will be the Coast Guard, mostly for law enforcement in the economic zone and territorial waters.
What do you think of the idea?
by Mitheldalond » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:00 pm
The Soodean Imperium wrote:Mitheldalond wrote:I'm thinking of making a warship based on the Maltese Falcon yacht. Probably something like a Coast Guard cutter or a patrol boat, not a front line warship like a cruiser or destroyer.
Main user will be the Coast Guard, mostly for law enforcement in the economic zone and territorial waters.
What do you think of the idea?
Sail power isn't really a good option for coast guard cutters and patrol boats, even if it's just a secondary means of propulsion; a consistent ability to reach high speed is a necessity when a big part of your duty involves chasing down smugglers or hurrying over to help a vessel in distress.
If you want cool sailing ships in your modern navy, then use them in the same way real-life countries use them: as training ships. The cramped spaces and demanding manual labor will go a long way to prepare young land-lubber recruits for life at sea.
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