NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #6

[Padnak]

less cinematic and directly into the combat zone, but basically this

Dunno if it'd be worth it or if full aspect missiles can lock onto falling tanks, but that's just begging to be shot by a MANPAD.

I'd say it'd be best to have a low drop like this.

That raises a question

if someones MANPAD locked onto a tank, would it actually do anything to the tank? From my understanding MANPADs don't have very powerful warheads-

less cinematic and directly into the combat zone, but basically this

T 80U-chan can't into airdrop.

T 80U-chan can into retro rockets

If I remember right you get Pions delivered by air drop in wic lol

[Spirit of Hope]

Add enough parachutes and you could probably air drop anything. The problem more is that heavier vehicles require their crews to parachute down seperatly.

If I rember correctly the US might have looked at the ability to drop an M1 and decided that while it was possible (with crew going down seperatly) it had no practical use.

[Padnak]

It's a joke. Of course, you'd prefer Ghost Division by Sabaton over some silly communist shit?

develop taste

[Padnak]

Add enough parachutes and you could probably air drop anything. The problem more is that heavier vehicles require their crews to parachute down seperatly.

If I rember correctly the US might have looked at the ability to drop an M1 and decided that while it was possible (with crew going down seperatly) it had no practical use.

The utility would be pretty low I admit, if only because heavy MBTs need a logistics train you can't really airdrop effectively

[Aelarus]

That raises a question

if someone a MANPAD locked onto a tank, would it actually do anything to the tank? From my understanding MANPADs don't have very powerful warheads-

Yes, for example, the FiM-92 carries a much smaller warhead than any modern TOW.

Though it would probably be flying into the rear exhaust so there's that to consider.

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The utility would be pretty low I admit, if only because heavy MBTs need a logistics train you can't really airdrop effectively

Exactly, there's a point where it's just not cost effective/practical to be bothered with dropping it.

[Korouse]

It's a joke. Of course, you'd prefer Ghost Division by Sabaton over some silly communist shit?

develop taste

My soldiers shall dance on your fallen hunks of metal you call "tanks" to Beethoven!

[Oaledonia]

T 80U-chan can into retro rockets

If I remember right you get Pions delivered by air drop in wic lol

No it can't, it weighs 42 and a half tons.
The BMD-4 is having trouble not destroying itself and it weighs 14 tons.

Again, with the amount of parachutes you would need it would just be better to develop a light tank-chan.

[Oaledonia]

If a MANPAD hit a falling tank, it wouldn't need to damage the tank at all. Gravity will destroy it after the parachutes carrying it are destroyed from the explosion.

[Korouse]

If a MANPAD hit a falling tank, it wouldn't need to damage the tank at all. Gravity will destroy it after the parachutes carrying it are destroyed from the explosion.

Fire resistant parachutes.

[Padnak]

T 80U-chan can into retro rockets

If I remember right you get Pions delivered by air drop in wic lol

No it can't, it weighs 42 and a half tons.
The BMD-4 is having trouble not destroying itself and it weighs 14 tons.

Again, with the amount of parachutes you would need it would just be better to develop a light tank-chan.

:*(

[Imperializt Russia]

How much does full NBC gear inhibit a soldier ability to fight? My soldiers are likely to be fighting in a very chemical weapon heavy environment so they need to be protected.

My nation is quite temperate for most of the year and in many areas never gets above 20 degrees so I don't think heat would be an issue, but NBC gear must make movement a pain and that sort of thing right?

Quite heavily.
It's not the ambient heat, it's the fact that you're being very active in a sealed man-rubber.

Your artillery's rate of fire will decrease. Its time to set up will increase. Your infantry's ability to perform in general combat will be reduced.
Your turunaround time for the maintenance, resupplying and anything else of vehicles will increase, not least for decontamination concerns.

[Korouse]

If a MANPAD hit a falling tank, it wouldn't need to damage the tank at all. Gravity will destroy it after the parachutes carrying it are destroyed from the explosion.

Fire resistant parachutes.

With stronk soviet wire cables holding them.

[Yukonastan]

Well, I guess that my modern mustard gas is out, then.
So let's talk about airdropping MBTs: If they're light enough, then, certainly. Don't rely on it, however.

[Aelarus]

If a MANPAD hit a falling tank, it wouldn't need to damage the tank at all. Gravity will destroy it after the parachutes carrying it are destroyed from the explosion.

Actually yes that's true, the blast will probably be enough to cut the parachute cables.

[Paddy O Fernature]

If a MANPAD hit a falling tank, it wouldn't need to damage the tank at all. Gravity will destroy it after the parachutes carrying it are destroyed from the explosion.

Actually yes that's true, the blast will probably be enough to cut the parachute cables.

Not even that. The blast and shrapnel cloud will shred the chutes themselves. Upon which that expensive MBT and it's crew will make a lovely crater in the ground.

[Oaledonia]

No it can't, it weighs 42 and a half tons.
The BMD-4 is having trouble not destroying itself and it weighs 14 tons.

Again, with the amount of parachutes you would need it would just be better to develop a light tank-chan.

:*(

Light tank-chans can be cute too :c

[Padnak]

Light tank-chans can be cute too :c

I know I know


a combination of this and lots and lots of parachutes and you could drop anything

where you want to is another question, but it could be done



I like the idea of suddenly a tank regiment shows up with little warning on a lightly/ non defended piece of territory then begins operations, even if air dropping main battle tanks is extremely impractical outside of circumstances like that-

[Korouse]

Light tank-chans can be cute too :c

I know I know


a combination of this and lots and lots of parachutes and you could drop anything

where you want to is another question, but it could be done



I like the idea of suddenly a tank regiment shows up with little warning on a lightly/ non defended piece of territory then begins operations, even if air dropping main battle tanks is extremely impractical outside of circumstances like that-

You could detect the aircraft.

[The Soodean Imperium]

:*(

Light tank-chans can be cute too :c

I'm going to lineart a light tank of my own... at some point.

If only because Sprut-chan had that mysterious high-publicity engine fire I keep reading about.

I like the idea of suddenly a tank regiment shows up with little warning on a lightly/ non defended piece of territory then begins operations, even if air dropping main battle tanks is extremely impractical outside of circumstances like that-

Just do what the VDV did and drop BMDs and BTR-Ds. Airlifting an entire mechanized VDV regiment already took between 90 and 120 An-22s, and that was with three AFVs per plane.

[Allanea]

And we can't drop Sprut-SD why?

[Padnak]

You could detect the aircraft.

read

"little warning"

If you're actively engaged in a war that involves massed air drop attacks, generally hostile forces would be concentrated around were your forces are concentrated, or thats what I would assume, so having a tank regiment open up a new area of engagement a thousand km away is probably not going to meet significant resistance if its in an area where little or no combat is expected

[Oaledonia]

Light tank-chans can be cute too :c

I know I know


a combination of this and lots and lots of parachutes and you could drop anything

where you want to is another question, but it could be done



I like the idea of suddenly a tank regiment shows up with little warning on a lightly/ non defended piece of territory then begins operations, even if air dropping main battle tanks is extremely impractical outside of circumstances like that-

Sheridan-chan

[EsToVnIa]

And we can't drop Sprut-SD why?

Do you do this on purpose?

[Allanea]

Do what?

[Korouse]

You could detect the aircraft.

read

"little warning"

If you're actively engaged in a war that involves massed air drop attacks, generally hostile forces would be concentrated around were your forces are concentrated, or thats what I would assume, so having a tank regiment open up a new area of engagement a thousand km away is probably not going to meet significant resistance if its in an area where little or no combat is expected

It'd probably be faster to just drive them in.