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Chris Hallett
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Founded: Apr 21, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Chris Hallett » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:18 am

Golgothium wrote:
Zhouran wrote:Socialist with capitalist economy.

I don't think you understand the little gimmick socialism has going on then.

Ardoki wrote:
Zhouran wrote:Socialist with capitalist economy.
That is an oxymoron.
How can a socialist nation have a capitalist economy? Socialism and capitalism are bot completely different economic systems.


Uh, a government can have socialist policies and systems and a capitalist economy. Much like the majority of the developed world? Public education, public healthcare, wide-ranging welfare system...

You know, like the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the European Union, most of the rest of Europe...

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Zhouran
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Founded: Feb 09, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Zhouran » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:29 am

Chris Hallett wrote:
Golgothium wrote:I don't think you understand the little gimmick socialism has going on then.

Ardoki wrote:That is an oxymoron.
How can a socialist nation have a capitalist economy? Socialism and capitalism are bot completely different economic systems.


Uh, a government can have socialist policies and systems and a capitalist economy. Much like the majority of the developed world? Public education, public healthcare, wide-ranging welfare system...

You know, like the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the European Union, most of the rest of Europe...

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Pravengria
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Posts: 1944
Founded: Jul 25, 2012
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Postby Pravengria » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:30 am

The FCP is a mixed market economy, major industries are state regulated and/or owned through corporations. While smaller industries and businesses are completely privately owned by workers unions but still regulated by the state.
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Caraani
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Founded: Oct 26, 2012
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Caraani » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:32 am

The United Empire of Caraani is a socialist country where the economy, while capitalist, is heavily regulated by the state, and healthcare, education, etc. are state matters.
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Herrebrugh
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Herrebrugh » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:39 am

Zhouran wrote:
Chris Hallett wrote:

Uh, a government can have socialist policies and systems and a capitalist economy. Much like the majority of the developed world? Public education, public healthcare, wide-ranging welfare system...

You know, like the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the European Union, most of the rest of Europe...

OOC: Thank you for telling that to him. I can't stand him.


Socialism mostly is an economic system, actually. The USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the European Union, most of the rest of Europe aren't socialist in the slightest.
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Pravengria
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Postby Pravengria » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:50 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Zhouran wrote:OOC: Thank you for telling that to him. I can't stand him.


Socialism mostly is an economic system, actually. The USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the European Union, most of the rest of Europe aren't socialist in the slightest.


It can also be argued as a socio-economic ideology, many leftist can argue that in order to achieve the end goal i.e. Communism, Society must also make a shift and develop a socialist state of mind or else the economic side will fail. This also has caused a division in the left per the moderates and revolutionaries, example would be while the Mensheviks aimed for a gradual shift the Bolsheviks believed in a more sudden change through revolution.
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South Rothinzil
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Founded: Feb 12, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby South Rothinzil » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:21 am

Democratic Socialist.

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Ardoki
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Founded: Sep 14, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Ardoki » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:59 pm

Chris Hallett wrote:
Golgothium wrote:I don't think you understand the little gimmick socialism has going on then.

Ardoki wrote:That is an oxymoron.
How can a socialist nation have a capitalist economy? Socialism and capitalism are bot completely different economic systems.


Uh, a government can have socialist policies and systems and a capitalist economy. Much like the majority of the developed world? Public education, public healthcare, wide-ranging welfare system...

You know, like the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the European Union, most of the rest of Europe...
You have no idea what socialism is. None of those countries are socialist at all, they are merely a mix of capitalism, state capitalism and some welfare policies (none of which are socialist in any way).

Welfare is by no means a socialist policy, it was fought for by socialists yet that was only tor increase the living standard of the workers in the present, it is not a characteristic of a socialist society. Welfare is necessary in capitalism due to the structural unfairness and inequality present in the system.

I shall provide some quotes below which explain what socialism really is from the voices of actual socialists themselves:

"The organisation of society in such a manner that any individual, man or woman, finds at birth equal means for the development of their respective faculties and the utilisation of their labour. The organisation of society in such a manner that the exploitation by one person of the labour of his neighbour would be impossible, and where everyone will be allowed to enjoy the social wealth only to the extent of their contribution to the production of that wealth."
~ August Bebel
Die Frau und der Sozialismus

("These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be generally applicable.")

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.
~ Karl Marx and Fredrick Engels
The Communist Manifesto, Chapter 2

"Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.
~ Karl Marx
Critique of the Gotah Programme, Part IV: On Democracy

"The dictatorship of a single class is necessary not only for every class society in general, not only for the proletariat which has overthrown the bourgeoisie, but also for the entire historical period which separates capitalism from "classless society", from communism. Bourgeois states are most varied in form, but their essence is the same: all these states, whatever their form, in the final analysis are inevitably the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The transition from capitalism to communism is certainly bound to yield a tremendous abundance and variety of political forms, but the essence will inevitably be the same: the dictatorship of the proletariat.
~ Vladimir Lenin
The State and Revolution, Chapter 2

"Right, by its very nature, can consist only in the application of an equal standard; but unequal individuals (and they would not be different individuals if they were not unequal) are measurable only by an equal standard insofar as they are brought under an equal point of view, are taken from one definite side only – for instance... one worker is married, another is not; one has more children than another, and so on and so forth. Thus, with an equal performance of labor, and hence an equal in the social consumption fund, one will in fact receive more than another, one will be richer than another, and so on. To avoid all these defects, right, instead of being equal, would have to be unequal."
~ Karl Marx
Critique of the Gotha Programme, Part 1

"The first phase of communism, therefore, cannot yet provide justice and equality; differences, and unjust differences in wealth will still persist, but the exploitation of man by man will have become impossible because it will be impossible to seize the means of production – the factories, machines, land, etc. – and make them private property.... Marx shows the course of development of communist society....which [firstly] consists in the distribution of consumer goods "according to the amount of labor performed" (and not [yet] according to needs)."

"But the scientific distinction between socialism and communism is clear. What is usually called socialism was termed by marx the "first", or lower, phase of communist society. Insofar as the means of production becomes common property, the word "communism" is also applicable here, providing we do not forget that this is not complete communism."
~ Vladimir Lenin
The State and Revolution, Chapter 5: The first phase of Communist Society

Those quotes should be pretty easy to read and understand. I got the quotes here: http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/s/o.htm
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Helvagon
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Founded: Mar 16, 2014
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Postby Helvagon » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:02 pm

capitalist all the way
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Itanzia
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Founded: Sep 09, 2013
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Postby Itanzia » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:43 pm

Itanzia is capitalist, but it has socialized healthcare and energy.

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Wardie land
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Founded: Jul 18, 2012
Moralistic Democracy

Postby Wardie land » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:06 am

Free-market Capitalist
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Magisanctan Empire
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Posts: 91
Founded: Apr 18, 2014
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Postby Magisanctan Empire » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:07 am

We are avowedly capitalist and proud of it.
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Weaponized EMP Monopolies
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Founded: Feb 19, 2014
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Postby Weaponized EMP Monopolies » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:18 am

The Anarchic Union wrote:We are Market Anarchists. Would that be capitalism?


I think that would fall into the category of Anarcho-capitalism, though I could be wrong. So to answer your questions, yes.

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Nova Doria
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Founded: Mar 08, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Nova Doria » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:45 am

Progressively more socialist as you look at more basic needs

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-the Confederate Republic
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Founded: Apr 25, 2014
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Postby -the Confederate Republic » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:39 pm

Capitalist socialist mix
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New Terricon
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Founded: Jul 13, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby New Terricon » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:48 pm

We practice Socialism for major industries and utilities. There is however, capitalism allowed to the extent of the small to medium sized business. We make it impossible for companies to gain a monopoly over the government however.
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Pentecosta
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Founded: Mar 26, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Pentecosta » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:49 pm

On its way towards becoming capitalist.

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Krumolia
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Founded: Jul 30, 2017
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Postby Krumolia » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:25 am

Krumolia is a laisezz-fare capitalist state.
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Destructive Government Economic System
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Corporate Police State

Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:26 am

None of the above!
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Suyokyuta
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Founded: Sep 29, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Suyokyuta » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:28 am

Socialist I guess

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Stellar Colonies
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Stellar Colonies » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:30 am

Every citizen in the Confederacy receives the basic items required for living (Water, plain and healthy food, shelter, and so on). However, they also work in jobs and receive payment, which they can use for buying additional stuff to improve their lives. So in a nutshell, it's like a capitalist economy built over a basic socialist one, which values citizens contributing but also providing their basic needs.
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The Confederacy & the WA.

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Mon Ling
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Postby Mon Ling » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:55 pm

Capitalist. ^.^ With few restrictions on private businesses.
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Democratic Exodian Territories
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:04 pm

Absolutely capitalist.

Despite what some players will say, we aren't actually anarcho-capitalist. And the government sometimes makes their own moves to keep the economy going, such as preventing monopolies.
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Codora (Ancient)
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Founded: Sep 22, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Codora (Ancient) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:57 pm

Laissez-faire capitalist bebayyyyyyy

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Koem Kab
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Koem Kab » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:20 pm

Glorious Capitalism

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