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Postby New Austzeland » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:43 pm

They are treated just the same as people without any disorders, but they are given the accommodations and other stuff that they need free of charge by the government. At the end of the day, they're just human beings.
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Postby Saurisisia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:11 pm

Auzkhia wrote:Autism is commonly accepted as a unique quirk.
But people with minor or major disorders get the accommodations they need.

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Postby Socialist Republic of Andrew » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:27 pm

Catholic Terra wrote:How are Special Needs people treated in your nation? Like autistics, people with Down syndrome, etc.

In Catholic Terra, 10 out of 50 babies born develop a special needs disorder like Autism, we have established Special Needs schools across the nation, and most schools offer Special Needs classes.

Those with special needs or such, are cared for by government issued workers. They must live with their workers, or else they can live in homes with fellow special needs with government workers.
If they are children to teenagers in school, then they receive special classes with class assistants and such to help them and guide them.

And adults must live either in a home with fellow special needs with workers, or live with their assigned worker.

And special needs citizens are exempt from things, such as our mandatory/compulsory military service, national tests, and other things that we do not think they can handle, unless they think they can and they can prove it to us.
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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:31 pm

Tuskamo wrote:Like all other citizens, they are treated fairly and equally. Same taxes, same income, same etc.



This, although if someone needs special accommodations, they are readily provided.
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Postby Straall » Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:52 pm

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Postby Abarrach » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:32 pm

They go to the same schools that other kids do, but to special courses, and at luch time the kids are encouraged to mix. Any person that needs a cronic treatment can ask the government to cover up to 60% of the total cost. All public buildings are required to have special access for the ones who need it.
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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:54 pm

The Debugging Center repairs all glitches that are severe enough to result in what is typically considered a "special need" at no cost to the patient. The Minimum Specification for Code Intended to be Sapient, and for Sapient Code, requires that every Decepticon be able to take care of basic tasks like raiding oil, repairing one's body, and shopping at stores in the standard way and without anyone's help by the time of the age of sapience. If someone's mind code is below this spec, repairs are mandatory.

Fortunately, all of these errors are very rare here. With beings whose minds are made of Code, it is more likely for a glitch to make it so they don't run at all than to come out "intellectually challenged" or to have another condition that requires special consideration. Even more fortunately, it's much easier to fix Code than it is to repair a biological mind. We can literally pull the Code up on a screen, find the errors, and type in the proper lines. This makes conditions that would be devastating for biologicals mere annoyances for Decepticons who have equivalent symptoms.

It also makes it so that the amount of work needed is often much different than how it would seem from a biological standpoint. For example, if a Decepticon does seem to have a Down's-like condition, it's often a problem with the mind's database schema that causes normal data processing to take much more power than it's supposed to, which in turn causes huge response lag. This is fairly easy to fix when an expert does the work. In some cases, it's even easier. Insufficient RAM or CPU power can cause the effects of retardation even when the Code itself is just fine. In those cases, adding more of the required hardware is all that's needed. A hardware fix takes less than 5 minutes.

Autism-like disorders are much more complex, though repairs are only mandatory if the problem is severely interfering with the person's ability to be independent. Still, patches to normalize certain aspects while leaving others alone are usually requested by those on the more severe end of the scale (those whose disability is severe enough to make it so that they *can't* request a patch MUST be repaired), while those on the high-functioning end tend to leave everything as-is and just deal, or get patches that wipe out the most annoying factors.

We will go after the Coder for being negligent if he does something like code an offspring so sensory input processors are registering at 1,000x what they should be (as evidenced by an offspring that keeps blocking his ears or trying to peel his own paint off because it feels funny). These things are pretty basic errors from a programmer's standpoint and usually result from typos or an attempt to get a cheap sensor to do more by putting a multiplier on it.

Fortunately, errors like the above are usually caught before an offspring ever goes live. The reason we strongly encourage Coders to have their work checked over by Debugging before hitting the activation switch is so that we can spot and fix these things prior to that point.

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Postby Space Tentacles » Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:55 pm

They're eaten, thrown out, used for incubating young tentacles, or thrown out, like all you pesky humans when you bug us with your fire like the cavemen you are.

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Postby Postapocolypta » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:02 pm

Each family decides what is best for them. Some raise them as normal as possible, others will hide them, others will kill them.

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Postby Novus Niciae » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:23 pm

The congenital disabilities amongst the baseline human population is virtually unknown thanks to the vast majority of the population having at least basic gene therapy to remove defective recessive genes that make them carriers of these disabilities.
GEMs are descended from genetically engineered individuals so they have no congenital defects at birth.

Additionally when an individual mind transfers into a fresh body from the one they were born in their new body will be screened at the cloning vats to ensure that it is free from all defects before it is activated and the person transfers into it.

On the rare occasion that a citizen is born from new migrant or a tourist with a congenital defect we can perform corrective surgeries or if the defect is too extensive we will transfer them into a mind computer system and prepare a healthy body for them that is free of defects and transfer them into it curing their problem.

Disabilities caused by physical injuries are treated in a similar fashion , the patient either has corrective surgery or transfers into a new body.

Disabilities caused by mental trauma are also treatable by our modern psychiatric medical practices which include medical telepathy to help the patient deal with their problem. Or in severe cases engram editing may be performed to excise or examine and treat certain painful memories.
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Postby Vampirum » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:28 pm

We don't have people with special needs living in Vampirum. Most sicknesses and injuries can be cured with vampire blood. So even a blind, handicapped, or mentally unstable person could be healed while living here.
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Postby Arkiasis » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:31 pm

Lancov wrote:You WILL receive the education you need tailored to your specific personality and style of learning. You WILL receive the healthcare (including psychological) you need to be a functioning human being. You WILL receive the income you need to live comfortably with all your needs fulfilled. Period.

This is all regardless of any learning disorders or mental disorders you may have. We have this thing called "compassion" for all members of society. It appears that many nations out there have not heard of this concept.


This is how Arkiasis handles it as well. We believe that everyone can become productive members of society and we will try every possible method to achieve that. Everyone is also treated fairly and equally.
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Postby Zhouran » Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:35 pm

We send Special Needs people to cleansing camps for mass executions.

Interestingly, Zhouran does not have any Special Needs people as of January 1, 2020. If there is any Special Needs people, we will treat them with care, as part of our democratic, caring policies.

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Postby Connahkstan » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:34 am

In Connahkstan, since special needs folk are incapable of Military Service are unable to become citizens, typically, retards receive extensive schooling and end up productive miners or farmhands, but still only civilians. Those with autism on the other hand is treated as just another defining characteristic of individuals, depending on severity, receive the same schooling and employment as retards, or are sent to the military like everyone else and are treated no differently.
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Postby Breheim » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:47 am

The majority of those afflicted with mental illness fall under the Eugenics Programme, meaning they are prohibited from having children, with a minority being outright castrated or chemically made infertile. They are also barred from taking adoptions, and a significant majority are given to state custody (if the parents wish so), and are raised in specialized orphanages. The mentally ill fall under the welfare programme, and receive the standard injury welfare payment (15k dollars as of 2014), while also being pressured to find a suitable job. A minority of Breheimian businesses are a part of the 'Compassionate Enterprise Reform', which means the state pay two thirds of the wages of mentally ill employees up to a maximum of 40k dollars annually.

In rural areas, it remains a great shame for a family to give birth to someone with mental illness. As a result, those with any sort of mental illness are hidden away from local society, usually in special hamlets on the outskirts of villages. The practice remains into the modern day, despite being frowned upon, if not outright illegal, by the Breheimian government.
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Postby Arakasia » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:20 pm

They're eliminated as per our eugenics program.

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Postby Venetia-Tatar » Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:15 pm

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Catholic Terra wrote:How are Special Needs people treated in your nation? Like autistics, people with Down syndrome, etc.

In Catholic Terra, 10 out of 50 babies born develop a special needs disorder like Autism, we have established Special Needs schools across the nation, and most schools offer Special Needs classes.

Those with special needs or such, are cared for by government issued workers. They must live with their workers, or else they can live in homes with fellow special needs with government workers.
If they are children to teenagers in school, then they receive special classes with class assistants and such to help them and guide them.

And adults must live either in a home with fellow special needs with workers, or live with their assigned worker.

And special needs citizens are exempt from things, such as our mandatory/compulsory military service, national tests, and other things that we do not think they can handle, unless they think they can and they can prove it to us.


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Postby Luziyca » Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:35 pm

The disabled will have a tough life ahead of them. They are typically stigmatized in society, although it is changing, slowly. Really slowly, with the north and the west accepting them moreso than the bible belt with their family values. Physical disabilities are much more accepted than mental disabilities, and if both get combined... you're worse off than both.

While they are legally required to be given equal service, it only applies to government services, and even then, it is only on paper, for they tend to receive inferior service and long waiting times.

Special education schools, while available tend to be private for really good schools, with public and Lutheran Catholic special ed. schools receiving very little funding (often in the single digits of lira per year). Ditto with special education classrooms, and indeed, abuse by teachers and educational assistants against the disabled in these schools/classrooms is common and a blind eye has always been turned. Only in some regions like West Geadland, Danzig, Bethlehem, and Inleda will these abuses be quite rare and frowned upon. Mainstreaming is really the best hope, but the EAs can and will abuse you (albeit less often than if you were in separate programs).

After you finish school, many parents quickly kick their children out when they turn 18, and either let them suffer or ship them to a care home, which in many cases is just as bad as special education schools, but a bit worse. They also contain sheltered workplaces. Those same regions (plus Gijirokastra) have tight regulations to make it better, so it is a bit pleasant there if you're in those areas. Otherwise, you're screwed.

If you wind up homeless (about 40% of homeless are disabled, followed by 30% being LGBTQ), or else express criticism, you can be arrested for communist activity and wind up in jail where you WILL suffer. Out of the severely disabled criminals, only 3 out of 100 finish their sentence, with most dying in prison.

From 1932 to 1971, if you had mental issues, you actually were sterilized by the national Board of Eugenics so you won't pass your genes. These days, you can get an abortion and many actually congratulate you for doing so. And prior to the 1970s and 1980s, there were institutions where you usually wind up.

But wait, you ask? What about jobs? Some can work! And yes, they do. But they typically are given the most dangerous tasks (to them) and paid very little (no minimum wage), often in the realm of 1 senti (1 lira = 100 senti), or three if you're lucky. Workplace abuse against them is insanely common, and nobody even bats an eye.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:25 pm

It depends on their race and the severity of their disability. Those who are from a racially desirable background are integrated into society to the best of our ability, and many of them are able to serve the Reich in one way or another. Those who come from undesirable backgrounds, or who are too severely disabled to be of any use to society are euthanized in the most humane manner possible.
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Postby Goeiehoopland » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:51 pm

Federal legislation stipulates reasonable accommodations be made for people with physical disabilities in all public and commercial buildings; employment accommodations are made for people with mental and physical disabilities.

People with Aspberger's syndrome/high-functioning autism are not subject to any condition-specific policies, however as a result of the recently enacted "CB2014-03-217: C'mon Guys, Get Real Act," people with these conditions can be legally subject to public humiliation if their daily rant about "NT discrimination" exceeds fifteen minutes.
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Postby Keventle » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:53 pm

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Postby The New Zealand Provinces » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:59 pm

ADHD and similar diseases are not on the NHS register in the CPNZ, however for ailments such as Down Syndrome and autism the patients in question are excluded from state education and are to attend special institutions as streamlining them only hinders other students education. Residential units are available for severe cases. Liberals often describe this as "brushing them under the rug"

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Postby Jernrige » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:35 pm

Iuronia wrote:They are executed.

This, essentially.

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Postby Hladgos » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:54 pm

They are given the adequate genetic therapy if decided by their parents to rid them of said disorder, or in some cases, to simply take away the little bits of the disorder that they don't like.
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Postby Niebo » Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:00 pm

Special needs citizens are treated like any other. Literally, there's not an Illi of assistance for them.
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