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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon May 05, 2014 1:27 pm

Sintroa wrote:does this qualify as a mech? If not then this is mine, you can all keep your stone-age weaponry.

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Mirage 4000 could take them all on.

And win.

Without even trying

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Postby Transnapastain » Mon May 05, 2014 5:26 pm

In what way could TIE Interceptors, Imperial I, or Imperial II (I can't tell the difference) star destroyers, the Executer, and the second Death Star, be considered mechs?
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Mon May 05, 2014 5:35 pm

Transnapastain wrote:In what way could TIE Interceptors, Imperial I, or Imperial II (I can't tell the difference) star destroyers, the Executer, and the second Death Star, be considered mechs?

He went in the ground combat vehicle thread and got yelled at for posting an AT-AT, he didn't think it counted as a mech.
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon May 05, 2014 5:37 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:In what way could TIE Interceptors, Imperial I, or Imperial II (I can't tell the difference) star destroyers, the Executer, and the second Death Star, be considered mechs?

He went in the ground combat vehicle thread and got yelled at for posting an AT-AT, he didn't think it counted as a mech.


Ah.

Mecha is a science fiction genre that centers on robots or machines controlled by people. These machines vary greatly in size, shape, and appearance. Some are little more than cars with arms and legs, while others are giant humanoid constructs.


I guess AT-AT's do count as mechs.

Anyways... Airplanes...and spacecraft!

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Postby The Corparation » Mon May 05, 2014 5:56 pm

Quick Doodle of a Carrier based Nuclear Strike aircraft, roughly comparable to the Vigilante
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Intended for nuclear strike, later adopted for EW, Recon, and Conventional Strike missions. ALBM Platform entered trials but was not accepted for operational use aboard carriers.
IC will be expensive, complex and be constantly plagued by political troubles. For example, while designated as an attack aircraft due to the Navy not being allowed the use of strategic bombers, the fact it was intended for strikes against strategic targets led to a requirement that it be staffed exclusively by AF Crews when carrying nuclear weapons despite operating off carriers. May or may not have it so that IC the Navy removed them from carrier service handing them of to the AF to be flown exclusively from land bases.
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Postby Gvozdevsk » Mon May 05, 2014 6:04 pm

So I've been using the HAL Tejas as my primary fighter alongside the Su-35. Have I been making a terrible mistake or is the Tejas good to go when compared to similar aircraft?

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Postby NewLakotah » Mon May 05, 2014 6:09 pm

Gvozdevsk wrote:So I've been using the HAL Tejas as my primary fighter alongside the Su-35. Have I been making a terrible mistake or is the Tejas good to go when compared to similar aircraft?

The Tejas is fine in a support role to a air superiority fighter, which can easily be filled by the Su-35. The Tejas is a light fighter and not designed for heavy combat usage like most air superiority fighters. It also depends on the numbers that you deploy for each, but it isn't a bad choice though I would make sure my air superiority fighters are given the edge when it comes to funding.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon May 05, 2014 8:27 pm

NewLakotah wrote:
Gvozdevsk wrote:So I've been using the HAL Tejas as my primary fighter alongside the Su-35. Have I been making a terrible mistake or is the Tejas good to go when compared to similar aircraft?

The Tejas is fine in a support role to a air superiority fighter, which can easily be filled by the Su-35. The Tejas is a light fighter and not designed for heavy combat usage like most air superiority fighters. It also depends on the numbers that you deploy for each, but it isn't a bad choice though I would make sure my air superiority fighters are given the edge when it comes to funding.


Heavy combat usage

Light fighters are meant for heavy combat.

The USAF wouldn't have 1,200 of them if they weren't.
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Postby Atlantica » Mon May 05, 2014 9:07 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:The Tejas is fine in a support role to a air superiority fighter, which can easily be filled by the Su-35. The Tejas is a light fighter and not designed for heavy combat usage like most air superiority fighters. It also depends on the numbers that you deploy for each, but it isn't a bad choice though I would make sure my air superiority fighters are given the edge when it comes to funding.


Heavy combat usage

Light fighters are meant for heavy combat.

The USAF wouldn't have 1,200 of them if they weren't.

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Postby Sde Dov » Tue May 06, 2014 3:58 am

General Dynamics F-16
Sde Dov has used the F-16 since 1983, and since then we have 96 of them in our inventory, and we are proud to say 42 have been built locally. We are now in the process of upgrading them (locally) to Block 60 configuration.
OPERATED BY:
26th "Defenders of The North" 16x F-16C Block 52 - upgrade to block 60 to start May
91st "Capital Kings" 20x F-16E Block 60 - upgrade completed April
124th "Wolverines" 24x F-16C Block 52- upgrade in progress
194th "Hunters" 18x F-16D Block 52- upgrade to block 60 to start June
42nd "Revolutionaries" 18x F-16E Block 60- upgraded in February, testbed wing

Northrop T-38
The T-38 first entered service in 1974, constantly modernized to modern standards. Used as a training aircraft, this can be called up and armed during wartime.
Operated by:
18th "Tutors" 18x T-38C
47th "Wisemen" 18x T-38C

Boeing F-15E
The F-15E Strike Eagle is one of the main fighters of our nation. The F-15E entered service in 2007.
Operated by:
325th "Swordsmen" 18x F-15E
33rd "Trump Cards" 24x F-15E

Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker
The KC-135 is our primary air tanker. The KC-135 entered service in 1984.
Operated by:
54th "Gas Stations" 8x KC-135E

Boeing C-17
The C-17 is Sde Dov's primary long range transport aircraft. It entered service in 2007.
Operated by"
1st "Presidential/Royal Flight" 2x C-17
86th "Mailmen" 18x C-17

Boeing 777-300ER
The 777 is the President/King's aircraft. It is a regular 777 but with extra fuel tanks, airborne refuelling capabilities, advanced communications gear, VIP interior, surface to air missile protection.
Operated by:
1st "Presidential/Royal Flight" 2x B777-300ER

Boeing E-3
The E-3 is our primary AWACS aircraft. Upgrades were made in 2013 to the crew stations and avionics.
Operated by:
9th "Watchmen" 2x E-3

Lockheed C-130
The C-130 has been one of our most important aircraft for 40 years. The Air Force has purchased nearly every C-130 variant.
Operated by:
267th "Shopping Carts" x12 C-130H
303th "Robin Hoods" x18 C-130J
109th "Steel Rain" X8 AC-130H

Airbus A320
The A320 is used for officer transport and for the Presidential/Royal Flight.
Operated by:
1st "Presidential/Royal Flight" x1 A320
336th Liaison Sqd X4 A320

North American Rockwell OV-10
The OV-10 has been constantly modernized and has all the qualities required for a reconnaissance aircraft. In service since 1989.
Operated by:
298th "Cameramen" X14 OV-10D+

Boeing 727-200
In service for the SDCIA. Information classified but 5 in service.

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Postby Anacasppia » Tue May 06, 2014 4:45 am

You have strangely few AWACS for an air force of your size - factoring in maintenance and turnaround, you'll often only have one in the air.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 06, 2014 5:19 am

Name: Mirage 4000
Type: Multirole Fighter Aircraft
Place of Origin: The Sixth French Republic

Service History-
In Service: 1985-Present
Users: The Sixth French Republic

Production History-
Flyaway Cost: 50,000,000 USD (44,500,000 Francs)
Designed: 1979
Number Built:
Variants: Mirage 4000B/BE, C/CE, N/D
Specifications- (Mirage 4000C-2)
Empty Weight: 13,500 kg
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 33,750 kg
Minimum Fuel Weight: 8,250 kg
Maximum Fuel Weight: 11,500kg
Normal Combat Weight:
Length: 18.7 m
Wingspan: 12 m
Height: 5.8 m
Crew: 1: Pilot

Armament-
Guns: x1 GIAT 30 w/ 150 rounds ea.
Hardpoints: x12 hardpoints
x6 Under wing mounts
x4 Fuselage mounts w/ 1 additional for targeting pod
x2 Wingtip mounts
x1 Centerline mount
Air-to-air:
Magic II
MICA
Meteor
R.530D
Air to ground:
Apache
SCALP-EG
AS-30
Mk. 80 series
AASM-Hammer
GBU-12 Paveway II
Air to ship:
AM-39 Exocet
Deterrence:
ASMP-A nuclear missile
Other:
Thales Damocles
AREOS
3 300L drop tanks
Buddy refueling pod

General Performance-
Propulsion: 2x SNECMA M78 turnbofan
Total Net Thrust: 260 kN (58,000 lbf) (130 kN (29,000 lbf) ea.)
Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: 1:1 interdiction mission
Combat Range: 1,900km interdiction mission
Ferry Range: 3,400kg w/ auxiliary fuel
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 20,000m
Maximum Altitude: 30,000m
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.2
Maximum Speed: Mach 2.5+

Avionics-
Radar: Thales RBAP 2 PSEA
Targeting: Damocles targeting pod, OSF search and track system
Countermeasures: SPECTRA, Flare/chaff dispenser

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Postby Premislyd » Tue May 06, 2014 6:15 am

Dual GIAT 30

Also put this on IIwiki :3
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 06, 2014 6:31 am

Premislyd wrote:Dual GIAT 30

Also put this on IIwiki :3

Your model can have dual 30mms.

I'm saving weight on the other hand.
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Postby Sde Dov » Tue May 06, 2014 7:19 am

Anacasppia wrote:You have strangely few AWACS for an air force of your size - factoring in maintenance and turnaround, you'll often only have one in the air.


Our country is working on that, athough we have radar installations all over the country.

I almost forgot:
Airbus A300-E4
Out of old Orenair A300s, we have installed the APY-1 radar. Expected to enter service next month, two with electronic listening equipment, and two psychological warfare aircraft.
Operated by:
169 Test Sqd. x8 - 4 to be transferred to 9th Squadron "Watchmen"
-2 to be transferred to 312nd "Listeners"
-2 to be transferred to 27th "Lecturers

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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 06, 2014 8:06 am

http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Mirage_4000

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Postby Licana » Tue May 06, 2014 12:18 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:Name: Mirage 4000
Guns: x1 GIAT 30 w/ 150 rounds ea.


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>American education
[19:21] <Lubyak> I want to go and wank all over him.
Puzikas wrote:Gulf War One was like Slapstick: The War. Except, you know, up to 40,000 people died.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:Never in all my years have I seen someone actually quote the dictionary and still get the definition wrong.

Husseinarti wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Do lets. I really want to hear another explanation about dirty vaginas keeping women out of combat, despite the vagina being a self-cleaning organ.

So was the M-16.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 06, 2014 12:25 pm

Licana wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:Name: Mirage 4000
Guns: x1 GIAT 30 w/ 150 rounds ea.


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My sides.

My sides.

in grim futur there is only 1 gun ;~;

like i said some other variants will have 2 guns, but the French only has 1

I'm making a super modern Hawker Hunter w/ all four 30mm guns.
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Postby NewLakotah » Tue May 06, 2014 12:54 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:The Tejas is fine in a support role to a air superiority fighter, which can easily be filled by the Su-35. The Tejas is a light fighter and not designed for heavy combat usage like most air superiority fighters. It also depends on the numbers that you deploy for each, but it isn't a bad choice though I would make sure my air superiority fighters are given the edge when it comes to funding.


Heavy combat usage

Light fighters are meant for heavy combat.

The USAF wouldn't have 1,200 of them if they weren't.

The USAF doesn't have any light fighters though. As far as I know the only major military that operates a light fighter is India.
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Postby Gvozdevsk » Tue May 06, 2014 1:05 pm

NewLakotah wrote:The USAF doesn't have any light fighters though. As far as I know the only major military that operates a light fighter is India.

The F-16 isn't a light fighter?

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Postby NewLakotah » Tue May 06, 2014 1:07 pm

Gvozdevsk wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:The USAF doesn't have any light fighters though. As far as I know the only major military that operates a light fighter is India.

The F-16 isn't a light fighter?

No, its was developed off the light fighter program but is actually classified as a medium multirole fighter. The F-5 is the last (and sorta) used US light fighter.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 06, 2014 1:08 pm

NewLakotah wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
Heavy combat usage

Light fighters are meant for heavy combat.

The USAF wouldn't have 1,200 of them if they weren't.

The USAF doesn't have any light fighters though. As far as I know the only major military that operates a light fighter is India.


I guess the F-16 doesn't exist anymore.

Damn.
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Postby NewLakotah » Tue May 06, 2014 1:11 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
NewLakotah wrote:The USAF doesn't have any light fighters though. As far as I know the only major military that operates a light fighter is India.


I guess the F-16 doesn't exist anymore.

Damn.

While it might technically be a light fighter and so therefore could be wrong, I'm pretty sure that it is actually classified as a medium multirole day fighter.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 06, 2014 1:13 pm

NewLakotah wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
I guess the F-16 doesn't exist anymore.

Damn.

While it might technically be a light fighter and so therefore could be wrong, I'm pretty sure that it is actually classified as a medium multirole day fighter.


It is a light fighter ;~;
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Postby Novorden » Tue May 06, 2014 1:16 pm

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