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Postby Barisea » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:09 pm

Dear sir, I said my entire air force consists of 10 troop transports, and 60 dragons (the fighter plane in question)
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Postby Barisea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:03 am

Even If I knocked their radar out with a radar jammer? Or is it speed related? If so, should I just replace the pockets with fuel tanks and put four-six AAMs on the aircraft? The best tech. it has currently is wires running through the aircraft, when one gets broken, the corresponding spot on a display of the aircraft in the cockpit would go red.Is that a good idea?
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Postby Barisea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:21 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Yugo-Austria wrote:I just remember hearing about a pilot who had no legs and he was really good in WW2, so that's why I asked


And yet the best pilots of WWII all had fully-working sets of legs. Legs serve a number of useful roles for a pilot, including operating the foot pedals and serving as an additional point of bracing. There is no benefit, and indeed a number of drawbacks, to removing them.

Barisea wrote:Ok. I'm trying to create a craft that has low grade weapons barely enough to get the job done. my country is defensive. Any suggestions to achieving an craft that has superior maneuvering but not well armed? The craft would use the rockets only when the superior maneuvering was used to position it in a way allowing for the unguided rockets to work


It won't happen because the very concept behind it is flawed. It's a bit silly to think that somehow a nation that can design an impossibly maneuverable fighter would somehow be unable to invent a basic air-to-air guided missile. It's harder to design a fighter as maneuverable as you want (read: actually impossible) than it would be to just build (or better still, just buy) something like AIM-9 and AIM-120. Because if you don't have any guided missiles, you may as well stop bothering to have fighters. And air-to-air missiles are over 50 years old, they're nearly as old as jet fighters themselves.

Look at nations that have actual defensive militaries. Austria. Switzerland. Sweden. What kind of aircraft do they all operate? Regular, plain-old fighters, with regular air-to-air missiles. No unguided rockets, no quad-cannon arrangement. No ridiculously maneuverable fighter that will be hamstrung by obsolete armaments. Just regular fighters that they've bought from someone else because small militaries in small countries don't usually have enough money to develop a fighter on their own. Sweden is only sort of an exception because they bought all the components abroad and just did the integration themselves, and funded it with export orders.

Barisea wrote:Dear Spirit of Hope: Aside from the 10 troop transports, the Dragon is the only plane in the air force, and only 60 are in the force. They have to be just enough to support, defend and lead attacks on land, air, and sea. that doesn't mean they have to be perfect at all. I fact, I want them to be relatively weak, but to be just competent enough to get the job done. Besides, the dragon has an upside of being great to show off it's speed and maneuverability. :)


Just buy some second-hand fighters like Gripen or F-16 or MiG-29 or J-17 from someone else.

I was thinking about the Gripen, or the Sukhoi Su-30 itself, But I really like designing my own stuff. the thing I really hate is not being able to turn fast enough to face the enemy.
However, I found that the Swedish Saab J35 Draken Is better than the Gripen. Also, Draken means Dragon, so yay, In a way, same name! Gripen means griffon.
ANNOUNCEMENT IS ANYONE WILLING TO SELL ME 60 SAAB J35 DRAKENS?
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Postby Barisea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:03 am

Ok... but I want my nation to seem real, that includes the things we bought.
oh, btw, how many aircraft get constructed in an low scale aircraft factory per. year, and how much money would that cost?
I'm trying to have all the facts worked out
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Postby Barisea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:04 am

Or, someone could just decide to offer a deal, and make money for their nation
:) win win.. Besides, I like trading
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Postby Barisea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:24 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Barisea wrote:Ok... but I want my nation to seem real, that includes the things we bought.
oh, btw, how many aircraft get constructed in an low scale aircraft factory per. year, and how much money would that cost?
I'm trying to have all the facts worked out

The longer and larger a production line, the cheaper production costs are.
http://fas.org/news/reference/calc/learn.htm
http://fas.org/news/reference/calc/airframe.htm

Okay thx. 1.3 billion total cost for the production of all 60 drakens
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Postby Barisea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:32 pm

No thx.. all I need now is for some one to sell me the blueprints to the draken.
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Postby Barisea » Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:05 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Barisea wrote:No thx.. all I need now is for some one to sell me the blueprints to the draken.

As an ex-importer of it, we traded them for Viggens (well tried, then we got P1216/F-14/Tornado) at the first opportunity, because J35's are a no go vs Fulcrums and Flankers, both of which we expected to face in the ultimate Przemysl/Battle of Galicia <.<. Who are you expecting to defend your airspace from?

On the continent Ayora, the one where I live, to the south, so do hostile people. we do not know their technological advancement levels yet, so being prepared is necessary.
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Postby Bataveria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:33 am

Allright, this question has probably already been asked before, so I expect it to be said, but;

Light Attack Aircraft vs helicopters, what are the pro's and cons?

I imagine a lot of light attack aircraft for CAS duty and helicopters more for scouting/reconnaissance. That said, my country is a mix between Rhodesia and the Netherlands (rivers), geographically speaking.

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Postby Bataveria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:45 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Bataveria wrote:Allright, this question has probably already been asked before, so I expect it to be said, but;

Light Attack Aircraft vs helicopters, what are the pro's and cons?

I imagine a lot of light attack aircraft for CAS duty and helicopters more for scouting/reconnaissance. That said, my country is a mix between Rhodesia and the Netherlands (rivers), geographically speaking.

Who do you plan on fighting? Light attack aircraft for CAS don't make much sense if you are going to be using them against an advanced mechanized force, who will happily engage them and shoot them down. Helicopters on the other hand will have a better ability to stay behind cover, pop up and engage, etc.

Against an opponent who isn't advanced and mechanized a mix of both would probably be good, helicopters certainly have uses, but you would probably do better to use light attack CAS planes and not use attack helicopters. The light plane is likely going to be cheaper to buy and maintain, and require less pilot training.


I see, would an Alouette like helicopter with an X mm cannon do good against soft targets? I'm searching for some Western, reliable and relatively easy-to-maintain helicopters.

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Postby Bataveria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:58 am

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Bataveria wrote:
I see, would an Alouette like helicopter with an X mm cannon do good against soft targets? I'm searching for some Western, reliable and relatively easy-to-maintain helicopters.

You could go with something like the MH-6 Little bird, I feel like the Alouette might be a little old to keep using. Against soft targets the ability to carry some rockets and machine guns would be all you would probably need.


Well, the problem is that my country is sparse populated and distances between airfields and battlefields can be on a distance of 70-100 km, therefore I was thinking of the Alouette because

1) The Rhodesians had the same scenario and the used this helicopter
2) I have the feeling it is more robust/can fly longer distances/has a better payload/ carry more persons if needed

That said, if I am wrong, I go with the Little Bird.

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Postby Bataveria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:05 am

Paragania wrote:Personally, I'd use these because they're VTOL and look cooler. ;)

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Curtiss-Wright Model 90 VTOL AAFSS (Armed Aerial Fire Support System).

;)


I got a phobia for cool looking and not adopted vehicles.

They are not adopted for a reason.

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Postby Bataveria » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:14 am

Paragania wrote:
Bataveria wrote:I got a phobia for cool looking and not adopted vehicles.

They are not adopted for a reason.

But what about this? :(

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Bell X-14C VTOL. (At least I think, after further googling I found a lot of these.)


It looks interesting, searched on wiki. But wondering why it was never adopted in the armed forces.

EDIT: 180 miles per hour is not really impressing IMO

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Postby Bellevaria » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:13 am

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Postby Blorbs » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:25 pm

"The universe is probably littered with the one-planet graves of cultures which made the sensible economic decision that there's no good reason to go into space - each discovered, studied, and remembered by the ones who made the irrational decision."
- Randall Munroe

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Bolkania
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Postby Bolkania » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:57 am

The fleet:

Combat Aircraft
- 378 MiG-29SMTs
- 120 Su-30s
- 268 Su-25s (Due to be replaced)
- 12 Su-34s (200+ on order)
- 3 MiG-35s (100 more on order)
- 68 MiG-29Ks (Carrier aircraft)

Bomber
- 34 Tu-160s
- Tu-95s

Attack Helicopters
- 480 Mil Mi-35s
- 134 Ka-52s

Cargo/tanker Aircraft
- 28 An-124s
- 22 Tu-95 tankers
- 345 An-72s
- 24 C-27J Spartans (Unspecified amount more on order)
- Tu-214 (Executive transport)
- 189 Mil Mi-17s
- 18 Mil Mi-26s

Unmanned Aircraft
- 18 RQ-4Bs

Air command centres/electronic warfare aircraft
- 8 Highly modified yet classified Il-96s

Trainers
- 28 MiG-23s
- 17 MiG-29UBs
- 68 Aero L-39s
- 9 MiG-25s
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Postby Bolkania » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:03 am

Sorry, meant the 29K, I thought it was a separate entity.

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Postby Bolkania » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:08 am

May I ask, is a MiG-29SMT capable at taking down a F-16? F-16 is small single engined hawk in the sky, and can rarely be matched by duel engine aircraft like the MiG-29. In my RL country of Bulgaria however, Fulcrum-As could beat a F-16 in a dog fight, despite the F-16 being better equipped.

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Postby Boruslavia » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:11 am

Personnel
Frontline: 20.000
Ground: 50.000
Reserve: 35.000

Weapons
Pistols:
M1911
BAP-3
Submachine Guns:
MP-5

Vehicles
* not all operational
Fighters:
500 BF-8 (from Boruslavia)
300 F-15 STOL (from USA)
1.000 BF-7 (from Boruslavia)
200 MiG-23* (from USSR) (reserve)
740 MiG-21* (from USSR) (reserve)
50 Dassault Rafaela (modified Dassault Rafale)
Bombers:
500 BLB-3 (from Boruslavia)
1.000 BLB-2* (from Boruslavia) (reserve)
40 Tu-16* (from USSR) (reserve)
50 B-52 (from USA)
1.000 BMB-3 (from Boruslavia)
Cargo:
500 C-130J (from USA)
10 Globemasters (from USA)
240 An-12 (from USSR)
5 An-124 (from USSR/Russia)
150 C-47* (from USA) (reserve)
Helicopters:
800 BH-2M1985 (from Boruslavia)
50 Mi-24* (from USSR) (reserve)
100 Apache (from USA) (20 in reserve)
400 Mi-8 (from USSR) (100 in reserve)
Trainer:
3.000 BT-5 (from Boruslavia)
1.400 BT-3 (from Boruslavia)
UAV:
5 EFS/EDI (joint project with USA and Boruslavia)
500 Predator (from USA)
700 BUAV-2 (from Boruslavia)
300 BUAV-1* (from Boruslavia) (reserve)
220 BCD-1
AWACS:
5 Boeing E-3
Tankers:
10 KC-10 (from USA)
30 KC-767 (from USA)
50 KC-707 (from USA)
5 KC-747 (from USA)
Command:
4 BECP-747 (license production)
2 Concorde (from EU) (government owned)
1 Boeing-747-200BBJ (from USA) (President owned)
Advanced:
50 FBF-1 (from Boruslavia)
1 BSM-1 (from Boruslavia)
2 BDF-1 (from Boruslavia)
100 BCD-2 (from Boruslavia)


Land Based
SAM:
20.000 BADS-2 (spread all over the country) (auto) (from Boruslavia)
2.000 FlaK-88* (reserve) (from Germany)
500 BADC-4* (reserve) (from Boruslavia)

Boruslavian Navy Air Arm
Fighters:
500 BF-7N (from Boruslavia)
50 Dassault Rafaela (modified Dassault Rafale)
Helicopters:
BH-2MN (from Boruslavia)
UAV:
40 BUAV-2N (from Boruslavia)
AWACS:
5 Grumman E2C (from USA)


If you are asking why some weapons aren't operational, because the generals don't want to repair vehicles which won't see action in the next decades.
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Postby Boruslavia » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:25 pm

Allanea wrote:What is the purpose of a military Concorde jet?

A Concorde can fly up to 60.000ft which would make it slightly hard to intercept.
Speed is also an advantage considering the size of the NS world.

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Postby Brandenburg and Saxony » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:46 pm

Air Force Aircraft

Combat Aircraft
  • Eurofighter Typhoon
  • Lockheed-Martin F-35A Lightening II
  • Pilatus PC-21


AEW&C and EW Aircraft
  • Northrop-Grumman E/A-18G Growler
  • Boeing E-7A Peace Eye


Tanker, Transport & VIP
  • Airbus A330 MRTT
  • Boeing C-17J Globemaster III
  • Lockheed C-130J-30 Super Hercules
  • Alenia C-27J Spartan
  • Airbus ACJ-330-200
  • Airbus ACJ-321


Trainers
  • Pilatus PC-21
  • BAe Hawk 127 LIFT
  • Super King-Air 350


Rotary-Wing
  • Airbus H-145M

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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:14 am

Hey, I'm not that good with air forces, but here is mine. I would like people to suggest improvements and roles I don't have covered etc:
Fighters:
PAK-FA (Some, no many)
Su-27
Su-33 (For Carriers)
MiG-31
Attack Aircraft:
Su-39
Helicopters:
Ka-50
Mi-35
Mi-17
Ka-27
Ka-60
Strategic Bombers:
Tu-22M
Tu-160
Transport Aircraft:
An-2
An-225
An-12
An-124
VTOL:
Yak-38 (For Assault Ships, due to lack of a replacement)

Any criticism is welcome.
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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:23 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:I'd personally consider the Tu-22M less a strategic bomber and more of a strike bomber.
It certainly doesn't hold a candle to aircraft like the Tu-95 or Tu-160.

Incidentally, the Su-34 (and limited, on-the-way-out Su-24) could make for interesting acquisitions for attack aircraft. The Fullback and Fencer (-34 and -24 respectively) are both strike aircraft capable of a variety of roles including electronic warfare and reconnaissance.

I was thinking about using Tu-160's anyway, so I will add them to the list.
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Postby Bratislavskaya » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:50 pm

Any point in me having the Il-10 as a COIN aircraft? Or should I just use regular ground attack aircraft?
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Postby Bratislavskaya » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:29 pm

Padnak wrote:
Crookfur wrote:
Yeah for an attack helicopter you proabbaly aren't looking at a max speed more than 270-320kph. hard points even three on each stub wing is quite a lot (unless the third is a tip mount or soem other kind of reduced capability mount). Using stub wings that are reaosnably large and offer a reaosnable amoutn of lift would give you the ability to use three full hard points, the paylaod to need them and a little bit extra atraight line speed at the expense of issues with manouverability i.e. the same effects as the Hind's wings.

using the mi-28 is a reasonable starting poiint for a heavy gunship but you need to think how your aircraft differs to it and what effect that would have on the aircraft's specs.


All noted

The main thing different about my helicopter and the Mi-28 is that this helicopter is supposed to be simpler in terms of electronics and without the small internal crew compartment

Because padnak doesn't have any real need for a flying tank hunter like most attack helicopters developed in the cold war are and doesn't have the capabilities to build a super stealthy "look how cool I am with my 2 billion a unit price tag" helicopter I was aiming to make a budget attack helicopter thats simple to maintain, cheep to produce and can support ground forces in jungle combat

I already use a sizable number of armed Mi-8s and Mi-17s, but I was aiming to create a dedicated attack helicopter- if only for a national pride type affair

Do a Mi-8 or 17 mod, or some kind of Ka-27 thing with guns. Thats my suggestion.
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