Your Nation's Air Force Mark II:

[Imperializt Russia]

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Would the HO-18 Amerika bomber hold any significant advantages (other than bomb load or speed) over contemporary, long-range bombers such as the B-36?

Reduced detection capabilities through airframe shaping, presumably some performance boosts like reduced drag (theoretically increasing range).

[Organized States]

http://xbradtc.com/2014/07/13/israeli-patriot-battery-intercepts-explosive-laden-drone/

Hamas is sent a drone... laden with explosives... I guess that's a missile.

Ghetto Cruise Missile.

[Organized States]

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Would the HO-18 Amerika bomber hold any significant advantages (other than bomb load or speed) over contemporary, long-range bombers such as the B-36?

Reduced detection capabilities through airframe shaping, presumably some performance boosts like reduced drag (theoretically increasing range).

I was reading through that over on Luft '46. Would it be feasible to add some ball turrets? Or would that increase drag?

[Imperializt Russia]

Reduced detection capabilities through airframe shaping, presumably some performance boosts like reduced drag (theoretically increasing range).

I was reading through that over on Luft '46. Would it be feasible to add some ball turrets? Or would that increase drag?

And, arguably, detection. Can't speak for the resolution of 1940s radar sets, however.

[Allanea]

Would I be able to attack PAKFA with this missile, assuming said PAKFA has been previously detected with VHF radar?

[Imperializt Russia]

Would I be able to attack PAKFA with this missile, assuming said PAKFA has been previously detected with VHF radar?

I'm not certain. The radar device of the missile itself may struggle to identify low-RCS targets at appropriate distances for terminal corrections.
Is it at all possible to "walk" missiles onto data fed from the VHF station itself?

[Triplebaconation]

It looks ridiculous, so probably not.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/ar/t6753.htm

These comments are amazing, though.

[Imperializt Russia]

It looks ridiculous, so probably not.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/ar/t6753.htm

These comments are amazing, though.

Interesting discussion.

[Triplebaconation]

It would probably be best to ignore everybody but the mysterious "Kyiv" - he's only slightly wrong. In general he's the most reliable NSDer. VX has greater technical knowledge, of course, but also a tendency to make up stuff now and then as a subtle troll.

Grid fins have higher drag in all regimes, and the main advantage is only hinted at on Wikipedia - reduced control forces, especially at high speeds. Any possible advantage is nullified by the bizarre layout, and the missile as a whole suffers from typical NSD mithril-plating.

[Allanea]

I suppose my original post should suffer from the caveat "assuming this design is realistic".

[Actria]

So I'm looking to basically design my air force's fighter component from like 1960 to the present day.

Democratic country, modeled on Italy and Turkey militarily, with much domestic heavy industry for production of STRONK indie jets. As of about 1960, our fighters are all F-89 Scorpions, so of course, must into jet fighter. I want a plausible design lineage (they don't have to be actually related, just visually similar to their predecessors, multirole fighterceptors all the way up the line- that is, some kind of air to ground capability with ASF as primary focus and mission- and twin engines. Two-seaters not required, not banned either.

I want to start from the Freedom Fighter, because it's god tier, and go from there. MiG-25? Tornado? F/A-18? F-15?! MiG-23?!?

HALP

How are any of those

visually similar

to the F-5? The F/A-18 maybe sorta? Also, MiG-25 isn't a multirole fighter...I don't think the MiG-23 counts as such either. Not that there weren't ground attack versions, but it was always intended for A2A, as I understand it.

Either way, it doesn't matter, from the F-5, you obviously go to the F-20. Screw your twin engine requirement.

Also, you could use the Ching-kuo, though its not really as stronk as the F-16, by all appearances. It does have twin engines though.

Also, why not consider the Typhoon or Rafale.

You could probably go F-5 ---> F-20 or Ching-kuo ---->Typhoon or Rafale...if you can get over the last ones not really looking like the others...which is utterly unimportant to technological advancement anyways.

The F-5 was developed into the F/A-18 through the YF-17 Cobra. As for visually similar, I'm talking about twin engines, twin intakes, pointy nose full of radar, mid/low wing, smaller ratio of wing area to body, and a tailplane separate from the wing. I don't like the Tigershark, it's too darn weak. The F-16, and to a lesser extent the Typhoon and AIDC, all have those big ugly chintakes- if I wanted my 4th-gen to look like an F-8 Crusader, I'd just use an F-8 Crusader. I want something that looks cool and has aggressive, shark-y lines, as well as being a good fighter. The Rafale is such a price tag that I don't know if my air force can justify it until it becomes an actual issue for us.

[Allanea]

http://xbradtc.com/2014/07/13/israeli-patriot-battery-intercepts-explosive-laden-drone/

Hamas is sent a drone... laden with explosives... I guess that's a missile.

Apparently it was in fact a reconnaissance drone. According to the IAF it was unarmed.

Hamas published footage from these drones today.

They have also a strike version, and a Ghetto cruise-missile version (but this one was not it.

Photo of one of the drones' weapon hardpoints:

[Val Nube]

How are any of those



to the F-5? The F/A-18 maybe sorta? Also, MiG-25 isn't a multirole fighter...I don't think the MiG-23 counts as such either. Not that there weren't ground attack versions, but it was always intended for A2A, as I understand it.

Either way, it doesn't matter, from the F-5, you obviously go to the F-20. Screw your twin engine requirement.

Also, you could use the Ching-kuo, though its not really as stronk as the F-16, by all appearances. It does have twin engines though.

Also, why not consider the Typhoon or Rafale.

You could probably go F-5 ---> F-20 or Ching-kuo ---->Typhoon or Rafale...if you can get over the last ones not really looking like the others...which is utterly unimportant to technological advancement anyways.

The F-5 was developed into the F/A-18 through the YF-17 Cobra. As for visually similar, I'm talking about twin engines, twin intakes, pointy nose full of radar, mid/low wing, smaller ratio of wing area to body, and a tailplane separate from the wing. I don't like the Tigershark, it's too darn weak. The F-16, and to a lesser extent the Typhoon and AIDC, all have those big ugly chintakes- if I wanted my 4th-gen to look like an F-8 Crusader, I'd just use an F-8 Crusader. I want something that looks cool and has aggressive, shark-y lines, as well as being a good fighter. The Rafale is such a price tag that I don't know if my air force can justify it until it becomes an actual issue for us.

The F-20 was actually superior to the F-16A and maybe B models. You can thank Carter for screwing the program and then Reagan for mercy-killing it. With proper upgrades, there is no reason why it wouldn't be able to perform.

[Rich and Corporations]

Hamas published footage from these drones today.

They have also a strike version, and a Ghetto cruise-missile version (but this one was not it.

No longer anyone can say that Israel is optimized for COIN. It is optimized for urban war against it's bizarro world mirror images.

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So. Replace 30mm autocannon on warplanes with a 50mm semi-automatic cannon?

[Imperializt Russia]

Hamas published footage from these drones today.

They have also a strike version, and a Ghetto cruise-missile version (but this one was not it.

No longer anyone can say that Israel is optimized for COIN. It is optimized for urban war against it's bizarro world mirror images.

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So. Replace 30mm autocannon on warplanes with a 50mm semi-automatic cannon?

No.

I can't think of any reasonable upside to doing so.

[Rich and Corporations]

No longer anyone can say that Israel is optimized for COIN. It is optimized for urban war against it's bizarro world mirror images.

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So. Replace 30mm autocannon on warplanes with a 50mm semi-automatic cannon?

No.

I can't think of any reasonable upside to doing so.

NS tanks with absurd roof armor against EFPs and AP shot.

[Allanea]

In that case short bursts of automatic fire would still be more advantageous.

[Imperializt Russia]

No.

I can't think of any reasonable upside to doing so.

NS tanks with absurd roof armor against EFPs and AP shot.

Where are your 70mm armour-piercing rockets, if you're adamant on getting close? Or, more sensibly, your ATGM?

[Allanea]

Or, failing that, your 30mm automatic cannon? You're not going to be able to precision one-shot a tank on the move with a 30mm gun.

[Allanea]

Possibly this song is relevant to R&C's interests.

[Vancon]

Possibly this song is relevant to R&C's interests.

It's beautiful

[Novorden]

Totally original

WIP

[New Vihenia]

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/ar/t6753.htm

hmm i wonder how actually one put EO seeker along with phased array seeker in Axisymmetric missile.

In my view at least, the antenna radiation pattern may suffer. Subarrays can be used to form multiple independent "antennas" But this will suffer from wide beamwidth thus lower gain and resolution.

About the grid fin.. Well reshape the fin then :3

http://www.researchgate.net/publication ... stigations


I was also in search for grid fin performance, particularly in how much drag and forces (Normal Force Coefficient) They generate. I have several papers and built excel sheet out of it but so far the result were inconclusive because i haven't managed to calculate some part.

[Imperializt Russia]

Totally original
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WIP

Kinda nifty.
What're the antennae?

Possibly this song is relevant to R&C's interests.

Magnificent.

[Rabbidskiya Republika]

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Would the HO-18 Amerika bomber hold any significant advantages (other than bomb load or speed) over contemporary, long-range bombers such as the B-36?

It has a rudimentary version of stealth due to the shape and materials, but not to the extent of the B-2. It would have been the longest ranged bomber of the 40s if it was put into production. Also, it just plain looks way cooler.