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Postby Minroz » Thu May 26, 2016 5:38 am

I'm suppose one seat aircraft are the norm in the future. With advances in technology, it'll happen eventually.

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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 9:12 am

It happened in the 70s.
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Postby -Aztlan- » Thu May 26, 2016 11:15 am

Could I get away with putting a radome on top of an EA-6, similar to the proposed AEW S-3 variant?

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Postby Laritaia » Thu May 26, 2016 12:35 pm

No, the S-3 is a significantly larger aircraft.

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Postby -Aztlan- » Thu May 26, 2016 1:41 pm

Laritaia wrote:No, the S-3 is a significantly larger aircraft.

Only in wingspan. The EA-6 is longer and significantly heavier.

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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu May 26, 2016 2:02 pm

-Aztlan- wrote:
Laritaia wrote:No, the S-3 is a significantly larger aircraft.

Only in wingspan. The EA-6 is longer and significantly heavier.


S-3 has a greater internal volume in the fuselage and more space available to house the crew necessary to actually process the radar returns and house the signal processing equipment.
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Postby -Aztlan- » Thu May 26, 2016 2:57 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
-Aztlan- wrote:Only in wingspan. The EA-6 is longer and significantly heavier.


S-3 has a greater internal volume in the fuselage and more space available to house the crew necessary to actually process the radar returns and house the signal processing equipment.


The S-3's fuselage does seem to have a larger diameter. Wouldn't newer electronics take up less space?

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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 2:58 pm

Not necessarily.

S-3 just had a really big internal bay that would be used to house the radar. A-6 lacks this entirely.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu May 26, 2016 2:59 pm

Why not just use the S-3.
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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 3:00 pm

Not man enough obv.

Real navies use S-3.

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Postby Free Asian Ports » Thu May 26, 2016 3:00 pm

Why not just use the E-2, then?

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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 3:01 pm

Because E-2 is shittier in every way to S-3 AEW.
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Postby -Aztlan- » Thu May 26, 2016 3:33 pm

Because I'd already be using the A-6 and EA-6 and figured it'd be more cost effective to just have another variant instead of a completely different airframe.

Also, I'm not I using supercarriers so space is limited.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu May 26, 2016 3:59 pm

-Aztlan- wrote:Because I'd already be using the A-6 and EA-6 and figured it'd be more cost effective to just have another variant instead of a completely different airframe.

Also, I'm not I using supercarriers so space is limited.


The French are able to operate E-2s from Charles de Gaulle.
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Postby -Aztlan- » Thu May 26, 2016 4:42 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:The French are able to operate E-2s from Charles de Gaulle.


Hm...maybe, then. Roughly the same length, but the frog carrier is a little more than twice as wide as mine, I think. Will that be an issue?

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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 4:45 pm

Is your carrier for biplanes?
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Postby Laritaia » Thu May 26, 2016 4:51 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
-Aztlan- wrote:Because I'd already be using the A-6 and EA-6 and figured it'd be more cost effective to just have another variant instead of a completely different airframe.

Also, I'm not I using supercarriers so space is limited.


The French are able to operate E-2s from Charles de Gaulle.


:using the CdG as an example for anything positive:

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Postby -Aztlan- » Thu May 26, 2016 4:55 pm

Gallan Systems wrote:Is your carrier for biplanes?

Pre-SCB-125 Essex-class.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu May 26, 2016 4:57 pm

-Aztlan- wrote:
Gallan Systems wrote:Is your carrier for biplanes?

Pre-SCB-125 Essex-class.

That frankly sucks. Almost as much as HMS "Invincible". Rip RN. Rip cva-01.
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The Akasha Colony wrote:
The French are able to operate E-2s from Charles de Gaulle.


:using the CdG as an example for anything positive:

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Srsly though. How the fuck did it take almost a decade between launching and commissioning?
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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 4:59 pm

-Aztlan- wrote:
Gallan Systems wrote:Is your carrier for biplanes?

Pre-SCB-125 Essex-class.


You're using no modern aircraft then.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu May 26, 2016 5:00 pm

Gallan Systems wrote:
-Aztlan- wrote:Pre-SCB-125 Essex-class.


You're using no modern aircraft then.

He could use LolHarrier, just like RN's LolAircraft Cruiser HMS Invincible. But then again I suppose :gallia: never considered the Harrier anything approaching "modern".
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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 5:00 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Gallan Systems wrote:
You're using no modern aircraft then.

He could use LolHarrier, just like RN's LolAircraft Cruiser HMS Invincible.


No.

You would rebuild it and use A-7/F-8.
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Postby Laritaia » Thu May 26, 2016 5:03 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
-Aztlan- wrote:Pre-SCB-125 Essex-class.

That frankly sucks. Almost as much as HMS "Invincible". Rip RN. Rip cva-01.
Laritaia wrote:
:using the CdG as an example for anything positive:

Ralentir Travaux :3
Srsly though. How the fuck did it take almost a decade between launching and commissioning?


It's a terrible design, that's how.

The Invincible class were more capable strike carriers then the CdG is. And that's not saying they were amazingly good just that the CdG is an utter pile of fail.

also CVA-01 had it ever entered service would probably have been worse then CdG



i'll just let that sink in.
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Postby -Aztlan- » Thu May 26, 2016 5:53 pm

Gallan Systems wrote:
-Aztlan- wrote:Pre-SCB-125 Essex-class.


You're using no modern aircraft then.


Well, not really modern anyway. It's got steam catapults I think will be strong enough to launch what I'm fielding. Mostly navalized F-5s.

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Postby Gallan Systems » Thu May 26, 2016 6:03 pm

SCB-27, yes, could cat anything in US inventory including Skywarrior.

SCB-125 means you can actually operate jet aircraft and trap anything in US inventory as well. The problem is you don't have an AFD (or Mark 7 AG), which means you have very little room for placement and recovery of aircraft. You can be a helicopter carrier and not much else.

Essex is probably too old to be useful but if you are wanting to use it there is literally no reason it shouldn't be SCB-125. Like at all.
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And yet they came out to the stars not just with their lusts and their hatred and their fears, but with their technology and their medicine, their heroes as well as their villains. Most of the races of the galaxy had been painted by the Creator in pastels; Men were primaries.

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