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Expansionist Greater Serbia
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Postby Expansionist Greater Serbia » Sat May 21, 2016 7:29 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
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lol m9, we have 59 million soldiers and counting. Also we have a territory that is LITERALLY ALL of two continets.
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Oh hello Eritrea.

Wot?

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Postby Allanea » Sat May 21, 2016 7:32 pm

Expansionist Greater Serbia wrote:
Allanea wrote:59 million soldiers?

Let's just say I'm a 2003 nation and I RP broadly to stat.

NSStats are inaccurate, I can do whatever I want


Then you should have no problem with me claiming that 1% of my population are in the armed force, I trust?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 21, 2016 7:33 pm

Expansionist Greater Serbia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Oh hello Eritrea.

Wot?

Or alternatively, the last time numberwanking was tried irl. I'm going to need more ammunition.

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Postby Expansionist Greater Serbia » Sat May 21, 2016 7:35 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Expansionist Greater Serbia wrote:Wot?

Or alternatively, the last time numberwanking was tried irl. I'm going to need more ammunition.

Oh yeah, high tech advancement plus territory of both ALL STATES of Europe and Africa... compulsory military service,
A large A.F. population... yet you cry "NUMBERWAAAANK", omfg.
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Postby United Earthlings » Sat May 21, 2016 7:41 pm

New Vaduz wrote:The Kfir is a match for the MiG-29 right?


Who initiated the engagement I.E>shot first? Is said engagement BVR or WVR? Who has the better trained pilots? Are the other pilots as it applies to both aircraft aware of the performance capabilities of their counterpart’s fighter? What's the match-up like, 2vs2, 1vs2, etc...? and last, but certainly not least-what's the weather conditions like?

Dostanuot Loj wrote:Alright, I want to stir the F-15 pot.

I'm trying to plan out my RL popcap puppet's airforce and fleet air arm. Which means I'm legacy planning.

Now, the nation in question is a small North Atlantic island (Or peninsula with a friendly land border, undecided) which mostly takes part in multinational operations with larger allied nations, and takes sea control/shipping lane protection as most important. So to this it has a lot of territory to cover, and sometimes needs to bomb third world countries. Looking at very rough dates, just to show generational progression.


You can have an air force without an F-15 in service and be just fine.

While my nation isn't a small island nation nor has a land border with any other nations, it is an island nation and the last two things you stated do apply to it. So for a basic comparison here's the route I went.

A Commonwealth History of Fighters, Interceptors and Fighter-Bombers

Where possible, I tried to use British Aircraft or later European adding American designs I liked in here and there.

Edit: That history is version 2.0, made a few changes to 3.0 for example eliminated the Tornado since I already had the F-111 in service.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 21, 2016 7:42 pm

Expansionist Greater Serbia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Or alternatively, the last time numberwanking was tried irl. I'm going to need more ammunition.

Oh yeah, high tech advancement plus territory of both ALL STATES of Europe and Africa... compulsory military service,
A large A.F. population... yet you cry "NUMBERWAAAANK", omfg.

>59 million troops
>high tech
>respectable even
Try again m8.

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Postby Expansionist Greater Serbia » Sat May 21, 2016 7:47 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Expansionist Greater Serbia wrote:Oh yeah, high tech advancement plus territory of both ALL STATES of Europe and Africa... compulsory military service,
A large A.F. population... yet you cry "NUMBERWAAAANK", omfg.

>59 million troops
>high tech
>respectable even
Try again m8.

Umm.. wot? Fuck yourself.
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Postby Allanea » Sat May 21, 2016 7:49 pm

What?

Explain, please.
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Postby Husseinarti » Sat May 21, 2016 8:21 pm

OFF THE SHELF TECHNOLGOY

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Postby Rhodesialund » Sat May 21, 2016 8:24 pm

Husseinarti wrote:OFF THE SHELF TECHNOLGOY

LIKE GREATEST SPAAG EVER SERGEANT YORK


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Postby The Corparation » Sat May 21, 2016 8:26 pm

Expansionist Greater Serbia wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Or alternatively, the last time numberwanking was tried irl. I'm going to need more ammunition.

Oh yeah, high tech advancement plus territory of both ALL STATES of Europe and Africa... compulsory military service,
A large A.F. population... yet you cry "NUMBERWAAAANK", omfg.

I don't think you understand what numberwank means.
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Postby Allanea » Sat May 21, 2016 8:29 pm

It's not even that large, really.
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Postby Minroz » Sun May 22, 2016 6:34 am

I've already figured what numberwanking is by time I saw that word. -_-

Not I'm any better myself tho'.

Getting back to topic, how many fighter aircrafts in one squadron should be for best numbers? I'm thinking 12 at the moment.

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Postby Rhodesialund » Sun May 22, 2016 7:04 am

MInroz wrote:I've already figured what numberwanking is by time I saw that word. -_-

Not I'm any better myself tho'.

Getting back to topic, how many fighter aircrafts in one squadron should be for best numbers? I'm thinking 12 at the moment.


12-24 aircraft in a squadron. Sometimes dived into three or four flights.
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Postby -Aztlan- » Sun May 22, 2016 1:20 pm

Husseinarti wrote:OFF THE SHELF TECHNOLGOY

LIKE GREATEST SPAAG EVER SERGEANT YORK


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Postby Kassaran » Sun May 22, 2016 6:47 pm

Rhodesialund wrote:
MInroz wrote:I've already figured what numberwanking is by time I saw that word. -_-

Not I'm any better myself tho'.

Getting back to topic, how many fighter aircrafts in one squadron should be for best numbers? I'm thinking 12 at the moment.


12-24 aircraft in a squadron. Sometimes dived into three or four flights.

I run with twenty to a squadron and five per flight. for reserves I keep active for field conditions two reserve pilots and four reserve craft. I only ever mobilize two-to-three for operations in combat. Single flight combat is only for patrolling and full-squadron combat would be for scramble-calls.
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Postby New Korongo » Sun May 22, 2016 10:54 pm

MInroz wrote:Getting back to topic, how many fighter aircrafts in one squadron should be for best numbers? I'm thinking 12 at the moment.

12 is a reasonable number of aircraft for a fighter squadron, as far as I am aware. However, with that said, I think that most air forces which utilise 12 aircraft fighter squadrons do so for two specific reasons. They are either too small or too economically disadvantaged to support larger squadrons, or they expect multiple squadrons to support each other directly in combat as a larger wing/group/regiment. As your air force appears to operate stealth fighters, I would imagine that it falls into the latter group. If you want your squadrons to be largely independent, then consider larger squadrons composed of between 18 and 24 aircraft.

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Postby Triplebaconation » Mon May 23, 2016 2:12 am

The larger squadron will be more dependent on the wing.
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Postby Rhodesialund » Mon May 23, 2016 6:52 pm



Shouldn't this be in the Warships section, since it is Navy? :p
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Postby Free Asian Ports » Tue May 24, 2016 5:57 pm

So I'm considering procuring the F-35 for my nation's air force as a replacement for the F-16, but I'm concerned about the price and lack of a two-seat variant. The former is a problem that's difficult to get around, but the latter is slightly more important. I know there are concept images and the like depicting an "F-35D" that has a second seat, but I want to know the feasibility of such a variant.

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Postby Crookfur » Wed May 25, 2016 5:23 am

Free Asian Ports wrote:So I'm considering procuring the F-35 for my nation's air force as a replacement for the F-16, but I'm concerned about the price and lack of a two-seat variant. The former is a problem that's difficult to get around, but the latter is slightly more important. I know there are concept images and the like depicting an "F-35D" that has a second seat, but I want to know the feasibility of such a variant.

Why do you need a second seat? The f-35 is so digital that you could probably fully type convert in simulators .
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Postby Rhodesialund » Wed May 25, 2016 5:26 am

Crookfur wrote:
Free Asian Ports wrote:So I'm considering procuring the F-35 for my nation's air force as a replacement for the F-16, but I'm concerned about the price and lack of a two-seat variant. The former is a problem that's difficult to get around, but the latter is slightly more important. I know there are concept images and the like depicting an "F-35D" that has a second seat, but I want to know the feasibility of such a variant.

Why do you need a second seat? The f-35 is so digital that you could probably fully type convert in simulators .


You are splitting the workload, plus I doubt a two seater F-35 will ever happen. The F/A-XX or F-X will instead have two seater variations.
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Wed May 25, 2016 4:47 pm

The second seat on the F-35 is the computer.
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Postby Gallan Systems » Wed May 25, 2016 4:55 pm

Rhodesialund wrote:
Crookfur wrote:Why do you need a second seat? The f-35 is so digital that you could probably fully type convert in simulators .


You are splitting the workload, plus I doubt a two seater F-35 will ever happen. The F/A-XX or F-X will instead have two seater variations.


Twin seat aircraft are dead outside of long range, manned bombers like B-2.
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