Your Nation's Air Force Mark II:

[-Aztlan-]

Nah.

[Gallan Systems]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance

[-Aztlan-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance

Well, shit. If that's your criteria, the F-5 is the greatest jet fighter evar.

[The Kievan People]

Pictures from a gun camera are somehow better?

[Crookfur]

Meh, Ealge drivers don't have the best record in DACT against other NATO airforce including teh RAF, FAA and US Navy. Heck they managed to lose against Lightnings way back when.

Which doesn't nessicarily say a lot about the aircraft itself as pilot skills, strategy and how much cheating and assitance is coming from ground control stations all play a part.

[Laritaia]

Well the lightning thing wasn't really fair, the lightning is a pair of engines with a deck chair strapped to the top, any aircraft that can actually carry a real payload an appreciable distance is going to be at a disadvantage.

[The Kievan People]

There was that time an E/A-18G shot down an F-22.

Best fighter confirmed????

[-Aztlan-]

There was that time an E/A-18G shot down an F-22.

Best fighter confirmed????

To be fair, every once in a great while the stars align and an older airframe comes out on top over a much newer one.

[Husseinarti]

There was that time an E/A-18G shot down an F-22.

Best fighter confirmed????

To be fair, every once in a great while the stars align and an older airframe comes out on top over a much newer one.

f-4 > frog plane

McDonnell Douglas 1958 > Dassault Aviation 1986

[Gallan Systems]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maintenance

Well, shit. If that's your criteria, the F-5 is the greatest jet fighter evar.

No, because Pierre Sprey is dumb.

[Triplebaconation]

He's actually quite brilliant, but his most incisive points are usually ignored.

[Gallan Systems]

i guess he does make some good points in ~defense meltdown~ about the usaf getting nothing in the future

otoh the same thing suggests buying an all ov-10/saba and a-10 air force instead ):

[Machina Haruspex]

Carrier Based Aircraft: Auremena Flight Dynamics XFA-27B

Ground Attack: HIA S30 Sylrada (Machete) Ground Support Aerocraft

Light Strike Fighter: HIA S34 Jahus (Venom) Light LSF

[Allanea]

Your second link is the same as your third.

Generally speaking forward-swept wing aircraft IRL have remained in prototype status, and to my knowledge only one armed prototype was ever made.

[Paragania]

Russia has a new trainer that has forward swept wings, I could see it converted to ground attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG65G0_P6y0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5E5Rs6I0g

[The Akasha Colony]

Russia has a new trainer that has forward swept wings, I could see it converted to ground attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG65G0_P6y0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5E5Rs6I0g

It doesn't have any spare space for attack avionics or any extra take-off weight for munitions.

[Machina Haruspex]

Your second link is the same as your third.

Generally speaking forward-swept wing aircraft IRL have remained in prototype status, and to my knowledge only one armed prototype was ever made.

Good lookin' out. Fixed.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Well, shit. If that's your criteria, the F-5 is the greatest jet fighter evar.

No, because Pierre Sprey is dumb.

Heard you talking shit like I wouldn't find out.

The best airforce is a swarm of F-16s armed only with guns and boundless optimism.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

To be fair, every once in a great while the stars align and an older airframe comes out on top over a much newer one.

(Image)
(Image)

f-4 > frog plane

McDonnell Douglas 1958 > Dassault Aviation 1986

Oh lol, Frisian Flag 2008. I knew I knew that Geschwader Richthoven insignia from somewhere.

No, because Pierre Sprey is dumb.

Heard you talking shit like I wouldn't find out.

The best airforce is a swarm of F-16s armed only with guns and boundless optimism.

"General Sir... why are we always on the defensive versus those Flankers and Fulcrums? They always spam us with their bloody Adder's and then we have to fucking evade."

[Crookfur]

Russia has a new trainer that has forward swept wings, I could see it converted to ground attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG65G0_P6y0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5E5Rs6I0g

It doesn't have any spare space for attack avionics or any extra take-off weight for munitions.

Is it an all new design or is it modified from a yak-130 which it kind of looks like at times?

Either way I don't see FSW being popular as a trainer due to handling differences compared to conventional fighters pilots would be destined to and the light jet for ground attack is a pretty much non existance markets pace that is already full of competitors.

[The Akasha Colony]

It doesn't have any spare space for attack avionics or any extra take-off weight for munitions.

Is it an all new design or is it modified from a yak-130 which it kind of looks like at times?

Either way I don't see FSW being popular as a trainer due to handling differences compared to conventional fighters pilots would be destined to and the light jet for ground attack is a pretty much non existance markets pace that is already full of competitors.

AFAIK they're completely different and manufactured by different companies. The Yak-130 has a payload greater than the SR-10's MTOW.

[EsToVnIa]

So presently, I'm planning on using both the Mirage 2000 and Mirage 4000 in a role analogous to the F-16/15. Since they're different in function, I was wondering what sort of upgrades/modifications I could do to make them both better analogs for the F-16 and F-15

[Yugoslav Territories]

The Air Force of the Federation of Yugoslavia: 250,000 strong

Equipment: 48 MiG-29SMTs, 24 Su-27s, 8 F/A-18D Hornets, 17 SU-25, 35 E-3 AWACS, 7 KC-10, 15 KC-35, 2 VFA-16s (Yugoslav Stealth Bomber development), 20 LRS-Bs, 100 F-22Bs, 22 Su-30s, and 164 other miscellaneous aircraft.
Organization: Five main airbases are located in Belgrade, Zagreb, Pristina, Skopje, and Novi Sad.
Key: AFFY (Air Force of the Federation of Yugoslavia), FDS (First Development Squadron), YFW (Yugoslav Fighter Wing), YGAS (Yugoslav Ground Attack Squadron), YSBW (Yugoslav Strategic Bomber Wing), YRS (Yugoslav Refueling Squadron), YRW (Yugoslav Refueling Wing), EEWW (Electronic Early Warning Wing), YGAW (Yugoslav Ground Attack Wing)

COMBAT COMMAND

AFFY Command BEL: 1st YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 2nd YFW (equipped with 27 MiG-29SMTs), 8th YFW (equipped with 16 Su-27s), 2nd YGAS (equipped with 7 Su-25s), 1st YSBW (equipped with 10 LRS-Bs).
AFFY Command ZAG: 3rd YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 4th YFW (equipped with 16 MiG-29SMTs), 5th YFS (equipped with 4 F/A-18Ds), 2nd YSBW (equipped with 10 LRS-Bs).
AFFY Command PRS: 6th YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 7th YFS (equipped with 8 Su-27s),
AFFY Command SKP: 10th YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 9th YGAW (equipped with 22 Su-30s), 1st FDS (equipped with 2 VFA-16s).
AFFY Command NVS: 1st YGAS (equipped with 8 Su-25s).

REFUELING COMMAND

AFFY Command BEL: 1st YRS (equipped with 7 KC-10s)
AFFY Command ZAB: 2nd YRW (equipped with 15 KC-35s)

ELECTRONIC EARLY WARNING COMMAND

AFFY Command ZAG: 10th EEWW (equipped with 12 E-3 AWACS)
AFFY Command BEL: 3rd EEWW (equipped with 12 E-3 AWACS)
AFFY Command PRS: 2nd EEWW (equipped with 11 E-3 AWACS)


The Air Defense Forces of the Federation of Yugoslavia: 25,000 strong

Equipment:
20 S-400, 1 S-500, 8 SA-15, 8 S-300, 12 R-25 Vulcan reserve forces, 300 Patriot SAM emplacements
14 air defense infantry battalions are operated by ADFFY (1000 strong)

Deployed at major airbases and reserve air bases throughout the country.

[Greater Allidron]

The Air Force of the Federation of Yugoslavia: 250,000 strong

Equipment: 48 MiG-29SMTs, 24 Su-27s, 8 F/A-18D Hornets, 17 SU-25, 35 E-3 AWACS, 7 KC-10, 15 KC-35, 2 VFA-16s (Yugoslav Stealth Bomber development), 20 LRS-Bs, 100 F-22Bs, 22 Su-30s, and 164 other miscellaneous aircraft.
Organization: Five main airbases are located in Belgrade, Zagreb, Pristina, Skopje, and Novi Sad.
Key: AFFY (Air Force of the Federation of Yugoslavia), FDS (First Development Squadron), YFW (Yugoslav Fighter Wing), YGAS (Yugoslav Ground Attack Squadron), YSBW (Yugoslav Strategic Bomber Wing), YRS (Yugoslav Refueling Squadron), YRW (Yugoslav Refueling Wing), EEWW (Electronic Early Warning Wing), YGAW (Yugoslav Ground Attack Wing)

COMBAT COMMAND

AFFY Command BEL: 1st YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 2nd YFW (equipped with 27 MiG-29SMTs), 8th YFW (equipped with 16 Su-27s), 2nd YGAS (equipped with 7 Su-25s), 1st YSBW (equipped with 10 LRS-Bs).
AFFY Command ZAG: 3rd YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 4th YFW (equipped with 16 MiG-29SMTs), 5th YFS (equipped with 4 F/A-18Ds), 2nd YSBW (equipped with 10 LRS-Bs).
AFFY Command PRS: 6th YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 7th YFS (equipped with 8 Su-27s),
AFFY Command SKP: 10th YFW (equipped with 25 F-22Bs), 9th YGAW (equipped with 22 Su-30s), 1st FDS (equipped with 2 VFA-16s).
AFFY Command NVS: 1st YGAS (equipped with 8 Su-25s).

REFUELING COMMAND

AFFY Command BEL: 1st YRS (equipped with 7 KC-10s)
AFFY Command ZAB: 2nd YRW (equipped with 15 KC-35s)

ELECTRONIC EARLY WARNING COMMAND

AFFY Command ZAG: 10th EEWW (equipped with 12 E-3 AWACS)
AFFY Command BEL: 3rd EEWW (equipped with 12 E-3 AWACS)
AFFY Command PRS: 2nd EEWW (equipped with 11 E-3 AWACS)


The Air Defense Forces of the Federation of Yugoslavia: 25,000 strong

Equipment:
20 S-400, 1 S-500, 8 SA-15, 8 S-300, 12 R-25 Vulcan reserve forces, 300 Patriot SAM emplacements
14 air defense infantry battalions are operated by ADFFY (1000 strong)

Deployed at major airbases and reserve air bases throughout the country.

Just to note, the Russian Air Force has 148,000 personnel and over 3000 aircraft.

[Kassaran]

Might be including reservist airbases in the region too, though I wouldn't know.