Triplebaconation wrote:Dassault designed a French Harrier.
French harrier, or French jump-jet?

If it's the latter, they designed more than one - none of them really worked, mind. Looked quite nice, though.
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by Anemos Major » Fri May 09, 2014 4:26 pm
Triplebaconation wrote:Dassault designed a French Harrier.

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by Chebucto Provinces » Fri May 09, 2014 6:39 pm
San-Silvacian wrote:Mirage 2000 w/ some modifications to make it carrier-capable.

by Organized States » Fri May 09, 2014 6:51 pm
Chebucto Provinces wrote:San-Silvacian wrote:Mirage 2000 w/ some modifications to make it carrier-capable.
I'm concerned that the missiles available will not be up to par with my needs for national air defense.
Perhaps the F/A-18C/D will be my best bet.
Four operational squadrons plus one conversion unit. Each squadron with two F/A-18D and twelve F/A-18C. The conversion unit has ten F/A-18D and four F/A-18C.
That would leave me with 52 F/A-18C and 18 F/A-18D. I think 70 aircraft should be good. What sort of attrition reserve should I also have? Perhaps a buy of around 140 and store half of them?
Fighter training would be taken care of by a number of BAE Hawks. Should I add in some T-45s as well for carrier training? Or would the F/A-18D work?

by Chebucto Provinces » Fri May 09, 2014 7:12 pm
Organized States wrote:Chebucto Provinces wrote:
I'm concerned that the missiles available will not be up to par with my needs for national air defense.
Perhaps the F/A-18C/D will be my best bet.
Four operational squadrons plus one conversion unit. Each squadron with two F/A-18D and twelve F/A-18C. The conversion unit has ten F/A-18D and four F/A-18C.
That would leave me with 52 F/A-18C and 18 F/A-18D. I think 70 aircraft should be good. What sort of attrition reserve should I also have? Perhaps a buy of around 140 and store half of them?
Fighter training would be taken care of by a number of BAE Hawks. Should I add in some T-45s as well for carrier training? Or would the F/A-18D work?
Why not go to Super Hornet Standard? A Rafale M would work as well.

by The Great Sioux Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 7:33 pm

by The Corparation » Fri May 09, 2014 7:37 pm
The Great Sioux Confederacy wrote:Best Turboprop for mixed duty light transport and COIN/CAS? I was thinking Cessna Skymaster. Other suggestions?
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by The Great Sioux Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 7:52 pm
The Corparation wrote:The Great Sioux Confederacy wrote:Best Turboprop for mixed duty light transport and COIN/CAS? I was thinking Cessna Skymaster. Other suggestions?
OV-10 Bronco. It's pretty much Toyota Hilux of COIN aircraft.
Oddly enough I literally already had this copied, I'd just shown this video to a friend.

by Gallia- » Fri May 09, 2014 8:02 pm

by The Corparation » Fri May 09, 2014 8:03 pm
The Great Sioux Confederacy wrote:The Corparation wrote:OV-10 Bronco. It's pretty much Toyota Hilux of COIN aircraft.
Oddly enough I literally already had this copied, I'd just shown this video to a friend.
It's also a dedicated light attack aircraft, and does not have the seating or cargo capacity to serve as a transport. I want something that can be adapted to do both. Probably a civilian aircraft with an upgrade kit for CAS/COIN
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by Organized States » Fri May 09, 2014 8:27 pm

by The Great Sioux Confederacy » Fri May 09, 2014 8:29 pm
The Corparation wrote:The Great Sioux Confederacy wrote:It's also a dedicated light attack aircraft, and does not have the seating or cargo capacity to serve as a transport. I want something that can be adapted to do both. Probably a civilian aircraft with an upgrade kit for CAS/COIN
Bronco can do light transport duties. It has space for up to 6 passengers, two stretchers with medics or 5 Paratroopers. Although to cram that all in there you do have to pull out the second seat. In terms of cargo it can carry up to 1500 kg. That payload is comparable to general aviation aircraft of the same size. And better than the Skymaster you mentioned.

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by Gallia- » Fri May 09, 2014 9:37 pm
Oaledonia wrote:The Corparation wrote:Pluto was a ramjet meant to travel at several times the speed of sound. I am hesitant to believe you could rig it to any sort of propeller, much less a propeller on a plane moving at Mach 4.
Well, I didn't mean for it to travel that fast.
In fact, different question: Is it possible to have a nuclear powered bomber?

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by Anacasppia » Sat May 10, 2014 9:28 am
Chebucto Provinces wrote:San-Silvacian wrote:Mirage 2000 w/ some modifications to make it carrier-capable.
I'm concerned that the missiles available will not be up to par with my needs for national air defense.
Perhaps the F/A-18C/D will be my best bet.
Four operational squadrons plus one conversion unit. Each squadron with two F/A-18D and twelve F/A-18C. The conversion unit has ten F/A-18D and four F/A-18C.
That would leave me with 52 F/A-18C and 18 F/A-18D. I think 70 aircraft should be good. What sort of attrition reserve should I also have? Perhaps a buy of around 140 and store half of them?
Fighter training would be taken care of by a number of BAE Hawks. Should I add in some T-45s as well for carrier training? Or would the F/A-18D work?
Anemos Major wrote:Forty-five men, thirty four tons, one crew cabin... anything could happen.
Mmm... it's getting hot in here.

by Organized States » Sat May 10, 2014 8:32 pm

by NewLakotah » Sat May 10, 2014 8:43 pm
Organized States wrote:Working on the OS Air Force circa 1950
Fighters:
F-80C
F-86A
F-93A
P-51D
F-82G
P-47N
F-84C and D models
Bombers:
B-36
A-26
B-29
Support:
C-47 Skytrain
Suggestions?

by Kampala- » Sat May 10, 2014 9:31 pm
Anacasppia wrote:Chebucto Provinces wrote:
I'm concerned that the missiles available will not be up to par with my needs for national air defense.
Perhaps the F/A-18C/D will be my best bet.
Four operational squadrons plus one conversion unit. Each squadron with two F/A-18D and twelve F/A-18C. The conversion unit has ten F/A-18D and four F/A-18C.
That would leave me with 52 F/A-18C and 18 F/A-18D. I think 70 aircraft should be good. What sort of attrition reserve should I also have? Perhaps a buy of around 140 and store half of them?
Fighter training would be taken care of by a number of BAE Hawks. Should I add in some T-45s as well for carrier training? Or would the F/A-18D work?
F-14E with AIM-152 Is the answer.
Would probably have happened in real life if the cold war didn't end.
Peace dividend sucks man.

by Organized States » Sat May 10, 2014 10:32 pm
NewLakotah wrote:Organized States wrote:Working on the OS Air Force circa 1950
Fighters:
F-80C
F-86A
F-93A
P-51D
F-82G
P-47N
F-84C and D models
Bombers:
B-36
A-26
B-29
Support:
C-47 Skytrain
Suggestions?
F-86A for sure, drop the F-80 entirely it was completely outclassed by the MiG-15 and most other comparable fighter of that time. The F-93A seems to be the replacement for the F-86, however, it was cancelled and so its hard to judge in comparison to the F-86A. I'm assuming that your F-82 is replacing the P-51? And B-52 should be your long range bomber, maybe use the A-26 as your light bomber or reserve bomber, thought the F-84 is also capable in that role.
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