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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:29 pm

I just don't want to use euro-fag canard dumb planes :P
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:32 pm

Most American proposal for ATF was canards. ):

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Postby Oaledonia » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:37 pm

Gallia- wrote:Most American proposal for ATF was canards. ):

Remove canard, X-35 no want
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

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The Corparation
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Postby The Corparation » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:40 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I assume the "flies like a brick" rhetoric doesn't come from just nowhere.
SR-71s have turning radii variously described as "measured in [US] States", so I can't imagine a Mach 3 Phantom being any better. If you can somehow push it to Mach 3, then a cleaner airframe with the same powerplant could be ridiculously capable.


F-4 was quite maneuverable. The "flies like a brick" comes from comparing it to aircraft like F-15 and F-14.

But how maneuverable would it have been while traveling at Mach 3? I don't think it would be quite as slow to turn as the A-12s, but I think it would still have a lolhuge turn radius.
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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:40 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:Most American proposal for ATF was canards. ):

Remove canard, X-35 no want


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Protector Galactics
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Postby Protector Galactics » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:48 pm

I go back to the 50s.... I use F-86 sabres....Image
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:49 pm

Protector Galactics wrote:I go back to the 50s.... I use F-86 sabres....


Should use Tunnan:

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:58 pm


U so mean.

U just want all the planes to cry ;_;
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:59 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
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U so mean.

U just want all the planes to cry ;_;


they like canards

they go

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Protector Galactics
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Postby Protector Galactics » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:02 pm

Still this is the best.... F-86 sabres....Image
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:03 pm

F-86 never shot down UFOs.

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Postby Protector Galactics » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:05 pm

Gallia- wrote:F-86 never shot down UFOs.

Well they did shoot down Russian state of the art migs 15s......... plus i'm no sci fi guy....
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Larkania
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Postby Larkania » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:41 pm

The bulk of the National Larkanian Air Force’s combat ability comes from its fleet of F-86F Sabre fighters, F-104G Starfighter interceptors, and Fiat G.91R/3 attack aircraft. The F-104Gs are deployed in the north of the country, where they occasionally intercept the odd Warsaw Pact aircraft strolling into Larkanian airspace. The G.91R/3s are also deployed in this area, where they are ready to confront any Warsaw Pact push down through the main mountain passes. The older F-86Fs are deployed across the nation, with no specific concentration anywhere. There are currently plans to expand the force to include some form of strike aircraft, with several foreign types being considered.
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Gvozdevsk
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Postby Gvozdevsk » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:35 pm

I want to use an upgraded variant of the Avro Arrow as an interceptor and strike aircraft in the present day. Would there be a problem with this?

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Postby Postapocolypta » Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:25 pm

The Postapocolypta Air Force consists of 1960's era jets and crop dusters fitted with .50 caliber machine guns. However, almost 1 in 10 citizens own a shoulder mounted AAM like the Stinger.
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New Vihenia
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Postby New Vihenia » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:40 am

Say hello to Grumman FSW-ATF concept :3

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Spirit of Hope
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:27 am

Postapocolypta wrote:The Postapocolypta Air Force consists of 1960's era jets and crop dusters fitted with .50 caliber machine guns. However, almost 1 in 10 citizens own a shoulder mounted AAM like the Stinger.

Ok first some thoughts on why relying on air defense is a bad idea. Air defense, in the form of ground based anti air systems certainly has its place, it can deny enemy airplanes airspace, provide safe air space for your own air force and crews and can defend your forward assets against air strikes and other attacks. However it has a number of problems associated with an over reliance on it. First and most important it doesn't gain you air superiority, and an over reliance on ground systems instead of air systems can mean that you end up loosing the ability to use planes even within your own defended airspace. Secondly it hands the initiative in the air to the enemy, they can choose when, where and how to attack, all you can do is respond to the attack. Making this worse is the fact that a determined enemy can still push his way through your air defense and hit targets of strategic value or attack your air defense and slowly destroy it. In addition your enemy has other means to attack targets and air defense, such as artillery or cruise missiles.

Now problems with your air defense. Stingers cost around $38,000 dollars a piece, so every citizen is being taxed $3,800 dollars per person for this. Now you can spread this cost out over time, but it is still going to be high because you also have to include training costs, maintenance, ammo, etc.

In addition the Stingers feeling is 10,000 feet, which jet aircraft can easily avoid (as can some helicopters). Additionally any aircraft that do enter can for the most part fly fast enough to avoid a lock on and/or shoot down. Helicopters are the one exception, but an opponent can simply keep them out of sight of your forces.

Last it is hard to call them civilians if you are arming them. Against me if they attempted to fight without donning some form of indication I would treat them as war criminals, and would probably shoot them.
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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:03 am

A new thread eh? Better tag it...

Name: Flying Super Pig
Designer: Novoburg Design Bureau
Design Year: 2011-15
Manufacturer: Zimberstadt Aviation State Manufacturing Association Named in Honor of Horzesser, Ichistein, and Spiz
Crew: 3 to 7
Length: 68.64 m
Wingspan: 106.6 m
Fuselage Height: 16.6 m
Wing area: 1,681 m²
Empty weight: 290 tonnes
Loaded weight: 335 tonnes
Max. takeoff weight: 720 tonnes
Cargo Bay Dimensions: ~3,000 m³ (42.9 m x ~10 m x ~7 m) [lwh]
Minimal Non-Safe Take-off Runway Distance at Sea Level: 1.4 km
Recommended Take-off Runway Distance Required at Sea Level: 2.5 km
Powerplant: 10 × Zimberstadt Aviation Factory #23 Heavy Turbine Model 2007 Engines
Maximum speed: 515 km/h
Cruise Speed: 465 km/h
Stall Speed: 145 km/h, at 600 tonnes weight
Service ceiling: 9.8 km
Maximum Range: 13,000 km
Range when Fully Loaded: 3,000 km

Armament and Countermeasures
1x 2.1 cm radar guided rear-directed autocannon
Chaff and flares dispenser

Price: $250 million, or alternatively, the value of all government cheese in Michigan

The Flying Super Pig utilizes the same general design of the Flying Pig, however it features improvements to the airframe utilizing next gen high strength materials, high voltage high capacity batteries, superior auxiliary power unit, replacement of engines with turbofans. This also reduces the take-off runway distance to 2.5 km.

The Flying Pig fufills the doctrinal requirement of an airlift vehicle for an entire airborne division (equivalent to a brigade in other armies). There are also commercial benefits to this aircraft, it can be sold to foreign customers wishing to airlift their primary battle tanks, space shuttles, or aircraft components.

This aircraft can carry four Lyras primary battle tanks, with a reinforcing platform added to the cargobay. The plane also has the capacity to carry one Maus tank, when transferring them between museums.

For short distance travel (4,000 km), the plane can operate with only three crew members (pilot, co-pilot, flight engineer). For longer distance travel, the plane operates with five crew members, who fly and operate the plane in shifts. Crew members who have just woken up start their shifts as flight engineers. There may be also two additional loadmasters.

The aircraft is propelled by ten massive high bypass turbofan engines. Each engine weighs roughly 4 tonnes, and has a thermal efficiency of 4█%.

The next aircraft to be designed by the Novoburg Design Bureau is expected to be able to churn up concrete airfields at touch down, requiring newly designed airfields to use. The name is anticipated to be the Flying Prae.
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Postby Antarticaria » Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:53 am

Postapocolypta wrote:The Postapocolypta Air Force consists of 1960's era jets and crop dusters fitted with .50 caliber machine guns. However, almost 1 in 10 citizens own a shoulder mounted AAM like the Stinger.



Why not have stationary or more official mobile defenses?
Every 1/10 Civilians is a strange logistic for carrying missiles.
Is it more like 1/10 of them are in local militias?
Just a average person! Is that too straight forward?

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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:00 am

Antarticaria wrote:
Postapocolypta wrote:The Postapocolypta Air Force consists of 1960's era jets and crop dusters fitted with .50 caliber machine guns. However, almost 1 in 10 citizens own a shoulder mounted AAM like the Stinger.



Why not have stationary or more official mobile defenses?
Every 1/10 Civilians is a strange logistic for carrying missiles.
Is it more like 1/10 of them are in local militias?

I think it's more like his nation has the NRA as a political party.
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Postby The Corparation » Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:11 am

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Antarticaria wrote:

Why not have stationary or more official mobile defenses?
Every 1/10 Civilians is a strange logistic for carrying missiles.
Is it more like 1/10 of them are in local militias?

I think it's more like his nation has the NRA as a political party.

No of it was the NRA as a political party they would not have stingers. Every family would own and operate a complete Patriot missile battery.
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Postby Antarticaria » Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:31 am

The Corparation wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:I think it's more like his nation has the NRA as a political party.

No of it was the NRA as a political party they would not have stingers. Every family would own and operate a complete Patriot missile battery.



:rofl: .... Is it sad I want one?
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Themiclesia
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Postby Themiclesia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:12 pm

Best of both worlds?
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The Corparation
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:53 pm

Themiclesia wrote:Best of both worlds?

This reminds me of an old line art I did as a joke years ago. It was an F/A-18 with an M1 Abrams Turret, a Shilka on the underside of the nose, and several machine gun spots. Also jet engines mounted on the tail fins.
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Postby Madnolia » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:59 pm

Flying machines...

what sorcery is this????????
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