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by Erusuia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:59 pm
by Nirvash Type TheEND » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:13 pm
by Organized States » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:14 pm
Erusuia wrote:Was the MiG-23 any good? I'm planning on having it be the last aircraft my air force acquired in large numbers before the economic recession rendered the military budget less for twenty years
(starting the the late 60s Erusuia went into severe economic decline due to government mismanagement and corruption, this period of economic rescission lasted until the start of the 1990s and during this time the military was unable to acquire almost new equipment)
by Korva » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:14 pm
Erusuia wrote:Was the MiG-23 any good? I'm planning on having it be the last aircraft my air force acquired in large numbers before the economic recession rendered the military budget less for twenty years
(starting the the late 60s Erusuia went into severe economic decline due to government mismanagement and corruption, this period of economic rescission lasted until the start of the 1990s and during this time the military was unable to acquire almost new equipment)
by Erusuia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:15 pm
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Variable geometry doesn't synergize well with a tight budget.
by Post-American Wastelands » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:20 pm
by Erusuia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:23 pm
Organized States wrote:It was a good aircraft for the time, despite being rather on the complicated side, though it should be noted that the MiG-23, will become more and more difficult to maintain as time goes on (primarily due to the parts problem and the associated costs).
If you are looking for a replacement later on, I'd look towards the MiG-29, the JF-17, or the F-16.
Korva wrote:From what I've read it had poor visibility, mediocre radar, and lacked a refueling probe.
Decent for the 1970's, pretty bad for 2014.
by Nirvash Type TheEND » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:24 pm
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Elan rules the skies
by Organized States » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:27 pm
Post-American Wastelands wrote:Do armed cropdusters count as an airforce?
Because that's about it. There might also be a working helicopter or two, if you really stretch your definition of "working".
Erusuia wrote:Organized States wrote:It was a good aircraft for the time, despite being rather on the complicated side, though it should be noted that the MiG-23, will become more and more difficult to maintain as time goes on (primarily due to the parts problem and the associated costs).
If you are looking for a replacement later on, I'd look towards the MiG-29, the JF-17, or the F-16.Korva wrote:From what I've read it had poor visibility, mediocre radar, and lacked a refueling probe.
Decent for the 1970's, pretty bad for 2014.
Thanks
In 2014 the economy has recovered and surpassed per-rescission levels so with that the military is attempting to extensively modernize with a big focus on the air forced (which held fewer then 100 operable aircraft out of a former fleet of 1250 by the start of economic recovery in the 1990s) which leads we onto another question: I want to develop an indigenous multi-role fighter as a sort of "Erusuia is back and ready to kick ass" national project, what kind of electronics does a multi-role need?
The aircraft in question will probably be using allot of licensed/stolen technologies from existing aircraft to compensate for the aircraft industries lack of experience
by Post-American Wastelands » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:29 pm
Organized States wrote:I'm seeing double...
Anyways, I believe the Yemani Air Force has Crop-Dusters armed with Hellfire missiles, so yes.
by Hurtful Thoughts » Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:12 pm
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by Atlantica » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:09 pm
by Vancon » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:16 pm
Atlantica wrote:Fellow NS-ers, how would you evaluate the twin-engine KF-X (a Korean 'stealth' fighter) for an air force, in order to counter the F-35?
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Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour
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by Connori Pilgrims » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:24 pm
Atlantica wrote:Fellow NS-ers, how would you evaluate the twin-engine KF-X (a Korean 'stealth' fighter) for an air force, in order to counter the F-35?
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by San-Silvacian » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:44 pm
by Vancon » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:48 pm
San-Silvacian wrote:Vancon wrote:Don't. Just run with some pure ASFs (Mig 29, F-22, f-16 etc...) and you'll be able to wreck any F-35's day in Air to AIr combat.
No.
If this was true the F-16 wouldn't be being replaced by the F-35.
But hey I didn't make a low-quality F-series guide so I don't know anything.
Mike the Progressive wrote:You know I don't say this often, but this guy... he gets it. Like everything. As in he gets life.
Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.
Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour
Shyluz wrote:Van, Sci-fi Generallisimo
by Spirit of Hope » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:49 pm
Atlantica wrote:Fellow NS-ers, how would you evaluate the twin-engine KF-X (a Korean 'stealth' fighter) for an air force, in order to counter the F-35?
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by San-Silvacian » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:52 pm
Vancon wrote:San-Silvacian wrote:
No.
If this was true the F-16 wouldn't be being replaced by the F-35.
But hey I didn't make a low-quality F-series guide so I don't know anything.
O hai.
I totally wasn't giving an example for other thing and naming a couple of different options for whatever his situation would be, regardless of whether or not his nation was rich.
Don't mind me trying to help.
by Vancon » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:54 pm
The Corparation wrote:Vancon wrote:Don't. Just run with some pure ASFs (Mig 29, F-22, f-16 etc...) and you'll be able to wreck any F-35's day in Air to AIr combat.
Mig-29s and F-16s can only wreck an F-35 if the F-35 is piloted by a 3rd grade dropout with ADHD as part of some F-35 Hater-Fanboy's wet dreams.
San-Silvacian wrote:Vancon wrote:O hai.
I totally wasn't giving an example for other thing and naming a couple of different options for whatever his situation would be, regardless of whether or not his nation was rich.
Don't mind me trying to help.
No you didn't help at all.
You just spewed out the same anti-F-35 rhetoric like a well-trained student of the Air Power Australia school of ignorance.
Mike the Progressive wrote:You know I don't say this often, but this guy... he gets it. Like everything. As in he gets life.
Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.
Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour
Shyluz wrote:Van, Sci-fi Generallisimo
by Urran » Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:55 pm
The Corparation wrote:Mig-29s and F-16s can only wreck an F-35 if the F-35 is piloted by a 3rd grade dropout with ADHD as part of some F-35 Hater-Fanboy's wet dreams.
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by San-Silvacian » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:04 pm
Urran wrote:I'm actually a bit worried about the design time. it's taken longer than it should have and cost more than expected. Not hating, I'm just a little iffy. I'll hold onto my Rafales just a while longer....plus I love the new F16 Block52D
by Urran » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:10 pm
The Blood Ravens wrote: How wonderful. Its like Japan, and 1950''s America had a baby. All the racism of the 50s, and everything else Japanese.
by San-Silvacian » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:17 pm
Urran wrote:My nation will probably end up using the F35C when it's all said and done.
I will agree with you. I just wish that my country wasn't paying for the majority of the development if it's supposed to be a joint project.
Ah, Australia. They also claim buying submarines from Japan is a huge mistake. Let's see, air independent propulsion, decent range, excellent sensors, it's deadly quiet, good weapons load...it's not a patrol sub, it's a freaking attack sub and one of the few not nuclear powered. Australia just has issues buying anything.
by Spirit of Hope » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:18 pm
Vancon wrote:The Corparation wrote:Mig-29s and F-16s can only wreck an F-35 if the F-35 is piloted by a 3rd grade dropout with ADHD as part of some F-35 Hater-Fanboy's wet dreams.
No, I'll stick to my guns on this one. Both the F-16 (upgraded of course) and the MiG were made specifically to be dogfighters. Sure the F-35 is more modern and has better electronics, but I think that a MiG 29 would be able to hold it's ground. As for the quip of pilot skill, If they were on the same level, I think it would be an even match.
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