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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:42 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I care very little for your opinions masquerading as "facts" delivered in the classical unwashed peasant manner. You, Galla and Matinsky to a lesser degree has yet to give me and a number of people here a valid reason on why we should change our opinions. Now if you excuse me my lunch is boiling.


That's not how facts work.

Hence "facts" in citation marks, dear user of unwashed peasant manners.
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Postby Triplebaconation » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:53 am

An "opinion" is that's one of the worst excuses for a flame I've ever seen.

A "fact" is that there aren't 60 blocks of F-16s.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:58 am

Triplebaconation wrote:An "opinion" is that's one of the worst excuses for a flame I've ever seen.

A "fact" is that there aren't 60 blocks of F-16s.

Ah, the classical literal interpretation of the word Block, irrespective of the actual meaning of the word as designated by the United States Air Force. I bow before the might of the omniscient dtn and co.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:05 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:An "opinion" is that's one of the worst excuses for a flame I've ever seen.

A "fact" is that there aren't 60 blocks of F-16s.

Ah, the classical literal interpretation of the word Block, irrespective of the actual meaning of the word as designated by the United States Air Force. I bow before the might of the omniscient dtn and co.

What are you even trying to argue here? Danton is right; there aren't 60 blocks of F-16. That's not an opinion, that's fact. The block number refers to the variant and it's state of upgrade. The USAF didn't create the meaning of that term and how they use it is not different to what you'd call one of the classical literal meanings; a set of similar items.
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Postby Gallia- » Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:07 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:An "opinion" is that's one of the worst excuses for a flame I've ever seen.

A "fact" is that there aren't 60 blocks of F-16s.

Ah, the classical literal interpretation of the word Block, irrespective of the actual meaning of the word as designated by the United States Air Force. I bow before the might of the omniscient dtn and co.


There are twenty blocks of F-16, according to the USAF.

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Postby Hrstrovokia » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:54 am

Oaledonia wrote:It's considered bad form to not cap your population and resources.


It is? I didn't know this. I used to take part in Nationstates back in 2006 to 2007 on the Jolt forums and that didn't seem to be a rule, have things changed?

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:57 am

Hrstrovokia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:It's considered bad form to not cap your population and resources.


It is? I didn't know this. I used to take part in Nationstates back in 2006 to 2007 on the Jolt forums and that didn't seem to be a rule, have things changed?


I play around uncapped, it is more that if your playing within this circle of rather heavily invested realism group you should cap. Mostly because it is much easier to set up hard numbers with caps in place.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:59 am

Hrstrovokia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:It's considered bad form to not cap your population and resources.


It is? I didn't know this. I used to take part in Nationstates back in 2006 to 2007 on the Jolt forums and that didn't seem to be a rule, have things changed?


Not really. Oale exaggerates. Walking into a thread and zerg-rushing people with your 12+ billion pop and 100+ million troops is bad form, but then again so is trying the same with a smaller nation. Most of the time, your actual population won't make much of a difference. There are people who cap and people who do not.

I don't cap, but I only update my population up to its listed NS level every few months whenever I bother to sit down and update the statistics.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:00 am

Hrstrovokia wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:It's considered bad form to not cap your population and resources.


It is? I didn't know this. I used to take part in Nationstates back in 2006 to 2007 on the Jolt forums and that didn't seem to be a rule, have things changed?

It's not, at all.
However, partaking in popcapping can help you to produce a "better" quality of an RP, and get you seen as being a "better" RPer.

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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:19 am

By "bad form" you need to consider my standpoint, though it's undoubtedly boring not to do so.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:22 am

Oaledonia wrote:By "bad form" you need to consider my standpoint, though it's undoubtedly boring not to do so.


The problem is that your standpoint is hardly universal, which is what you were making it out to be.
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Postby Kassaran » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:29 am

Oh jeez! Neighborhood just got buzzed by two F/A-22's I think, either that or they were JSF's, came in low enough that I could almost see the USAF roundel on the underside! I love Cali. :3
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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:51 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:By "bad form" you need to consider my standpoint, though it's undoubtedly boring not to do so.


The problem is that your standpoint is hardly universal, which is what you were making it out to be.

Really now? I'd say that about half of the II community would agree with me, that counts for something.

You're issue is that you're downplaying it too much.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:09 pm

Kassaran wrote:Oh jeez! Neighborhood just got buzzed by two F/A-22's I think, either that or they were JSF's, came in low enough that I could almost see the USAF roundel on the underside! I love Cali. :3


Live on an Air Force base with F-15Es.

Really nothing better than watching afterburner at midnight.
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Postby The Corparation » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:37 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Kassaran wrote:Oh jeez! Neighborhood just got buzzed by two F/A-22's I think, either that or they were JSF's, came in low enough that I could almost see the USAF roundel on the underside! I love Cali. :3


Live on an Air Force base with F-15Es.

Really nothing better than watching afterburner at midnight.

Lucky. I'm by a Marine base. All I ever see are helicopters with the occasional Osprey.
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Postby Virana » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:57 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Kassaran wrote:Oh jeez! Neighborhood just got buzzed by two F/A-22's I think, either that or they were JSF's, came in low enough that I could almost see the USAF roundel on the underside! I love Cali. :3


Live on an Air Force base with F-15Es.

Really nothing better than watching afterburner at midnight.

i intern next to an air reserve base and all i see are C-130s and occasionally some black hawks...
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:13 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
The problem is that your standpoint is hardly universal, which is what you were making it out to be.

Really now? I'd say that about half of the II community would agree with me, that counts for something.

You're issue is that you're downplaying it too much.


Which means that half of the II community would disagree with you, which you are also downplaying. And strangely enough, 50% agreement is indeed not "universal." Capped vs. uncapped is a debate that's been raging for ages, and shows no signs of subsiding or reaching a final resolution. There is no requirement to cap, nor any real reason why capping inherently leads to better RP. A clumsy mass-deployment and ham-fisted attack is just as bad whether it's from a nation with 50 million, 500 million, or 5 billion citizens.

Kassaran wrote:Oh jeez! Neighborhood just got buzzed by two F/A-22's I think, either that or they were JSF's, came in low enough that I could almost see the USAF roundel on the underside! I love Cali. :3


Most likely an F-22. There are some based at Edwards.
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Postby Oaledonia » Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:31 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:Which means that half of the II community would disagree with you, which you are also downplaying. And strangely enough, 50% agreement is indeed not "universal." Capped vs. uncapped is a debate that's been raging for ages, and shows no signs of subsiding or reaching a final resolution. There is no requirement to cap, nor any real reason why capping inherently leads to better RP. A clumsy mass-deployment and ham-fisted attack is just as bad whether it's from a nation with 50 million, 500 million, or 5 billion citizens.

Kay.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:20 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Kassaran wrote:Oh jeez! Neighborhood just got buzzed by two F/A-22's I think, either that or they were JSF's, came in low enough that I could almost see the USAF roundel on the underside! I love Cali. :3


Most likely an F-22. There are some based at Edwards.

I'm from LA and on a couple of occasions I have sighted B-2s. At one point one was just circling over/near my town.
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Postby Mallaska » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:45 pm

You guys are lucky, all that happens to buzz my city are a bunch of V-22s, CH-53s, AH-1s, or UH-1Ys. USMC struggles.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:11 pm

Mallaska wrote:You guys are lucky, all that happens to buzz my city are a bunch of V-22s, CH-53s, AH-1s, or UH-1Ys. USMC struggles.


Used to get those at home as well. The joys of having a major USMC, USAF, Army, and Navy base all within 20 miles of each other.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Apr 02, 2014 2:47 am

I live in Liverpool so I see lots of police helicopters.
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Postby Pharthan » Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:50 am

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I have F/A-18E/Fs with heavy loading, C-2s, and E-2s taking off and landing above my head. My berthing is a few decks directly beneath 1 & 2 Cat. Yeah. Keeps you up at night. Suckers are loud.
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